GDT: Calgary Flames at Los Angeles Kings - January 19, 2015 - 7:30 p.m. (PST)

[Sacha Baron Corbin]

Something has just got to give. Its been heartbreak after heartbreak this season. It makes no sense.

 

[Chain]

I can see Stoll being moved. He is only good for face-offs and I'm not sure he is that good this season (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

The one thing he has been consistent on is crucial late-3rd period penalties. I can set my watch to it. He is money. Dead-on money.

I would move Stoll even before Richards at this point. Neither of them is worth their pay and get too many penalties. Stoll's penalties in the 3rd have shot us in the foot on too many occasions.

Stoll, Nolan, Greene, Richards...we need to move at least 2 of them, imo, in the offseason at the latest.

 

[Ron*]

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After starting season 6-1-1, Kings have won 14 of 38 games. (14-13-11).

True that 39 points in 38 games won't get you into a playoff spot, but they aren't out-and-out losing games, they are getting a point in these games. You have to remember that, I do see a win streak at some point this season and that win streak will get them right back into a prime playoff spot. They aren't that far from second place in the division!

 

[kingsholygrail]

Times like this I wished we had Toronto's media. The soft as **** questions that get asked of the Kings is so boring. Someone needs to throw statistics at them.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Kings are only out of the playoffs now. Think about it.

 

[BigKing]

Dude, 2011-12 was worse than anything we've seen this year. Surely you can't forget November thru February of that season? My God was that brutal.

We haven't gotten that far yet. We will be fine. Keep the faith.

Nope. This is worse. These are the defending champions as opposed to a bunch of guys that hadn't won ****.

This season is a travesty so far.

 

[KINGS17]

I would move Stoll even before Richards at this point. Neither of them is worth their pay and get too many penalties. Stoll's penalties in the 3rd have shot us in the foot on too many occasions.

Stoll, Nolan, Greene, Richards...we need to move at least 2 of them, imo, in the offseason at the latest.

Richards probably can't be moved. If Dean could trade him, it would have already happened.

 

[Vamos Rafa]

The reaction of the crowd...First time I've ever heard a crowd get a "Oh noooooooooooo" reaction. Usually it's loud cheers thinking the call will favor them but this time, they had no reason to not accept the truth.

 

[damacles1156]

Kings are only out of the playoffs now. Think about it.

First time this Core over the last four seasons, has been out of playoff spot this late in the season.

I'll check again, but I am pretty sure, I am right.

Wait, 2012 the Kings have to run off eight out of nine to get into a play-off spot the first week of February.

 

[kingsfan28]

12-8 OT/SO last season. this season , 12 losses at we're only at the ASB.

 

[Sacha Baron Corbin]

I would say this is worse than 2011-2012. I don't think most of us realistically expected the Kings to win the Cup, hell even a playoff round back then.

Now we expect them to be a good team and contend but this season has been a disaster as far as I'm concerned.

Luckily the Pacific has been underwhelming so we can still make a run if things turn around but the organization has to figure this **** out quick before the whole season is in the crapper.

 

[Ron*]

Nope. This is worse. These are the defending champions as opposed to a bunch of guys that hadn't won ****.

This season is a travesty so far.

Are you going to stick with them or just *****?

Bottom line is we can all sit in our chairs and ***** about these guys, but I have confidence in this team. They are still the defending champs that have to defend the title every ****ing game. This is a league that defines "parity." And this is hockey. One goal matters most nights.

Bottom line, believe in the team or get lost. These "**** this team" comments are childish.

 

[KINGS17]

Dude, 2011-12 was worse than anything we've seen this year. Surely you can't forget November thru February of that season? My God was that brutal.

We haven't gotten that far yet. We will be fine. Keep the faith.

I admire your positive attitude Ron, but that was a problem with the system the Kings were using. This team isn't physical and that isn't Sutter's fault. This team doesn't have the same horses that the 2012 team did in the lineup.

Richards is a shell of his former self, and McNabb isn't going to turn into Voynov overnight. Doughty is being overused as well.

If Quick gets red hot, maybe they still have a shot.

 

[MynameisKing]

Pretty much what I was thinking, it will largely depend on WPG/Van/Cal as well.

If those three teams play 600. hockey in the next eight games, and the Kings play 450. or below (which they have been for the past 15 games).

The season is over, the Kings would have to play 650.+ hockey to finish the season to even make a wild card spot.

Too many teams to jump.

I wouldn't be too concerned about WPG. Just finish at least 3rd in the division. Doesn't matter if the Jets get 10 more points than us. They are in the Central.

 

[Chain]

Richards probably can't be moved. If Dean could trade him, it would have already happened.

Ya, I agree it'd be hard to move him. But the others can be. Though I know Greene wont be. So move Stoll and Nolan.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Difference this season is the Kings are not playing a strong defensive game and failing to score. They've been playing an absolutely **** defensive game and can't protect leads. 2012 they just needed more scoring and it took off from there because everything else was firing. The PP? Activated once they got into the post season. It was their last weakness.

2014? Still strong defensively, couldn't score goals again. Found their scoring touch, took off from there. Funny enough, in the post season they lost their ability to defend well and hold leads. That part of the post season has carried into this season, but not the comebacks that allowed them to win a cup. Their D no longer bends. It breaks. You can't count on the team to hold a lead in the 3rd. You can't count on them to win in OT or the SO.

Playing with a lead? Suck.
Playing from behind? Suck.
PP? Suck.
PK? Suck.

What are they doing well in this season? Possession?
Well, I guess it's all fine then.

 

[Ron*]

I would say this is worse than 2011-2012. I don't think most of us realistically expected the Kings to win the Cup, hell even a playoff round back then.

Now we expect them to be a good team and contend but this season has been a disaster as far as I'm concerned.

Luckily the Pacific has been underwhelming so we can still make a run if things turn around but the organization has to figure this **** out quick before the whole season is in the crapper.

They were most definitely a contender that didn't live up to expectations in 2011-12 halfway through the season.

I will never forget back-to-back 1-0 shutouts at home in February. Boos rained down because we all knew this team had a real chance at the Cup.

Some of you guys have very short memories.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

I don't think the Kings ever played 14 of 38 bad in 2014, so no need to keep bringing up last season.

2012, the Kings did have stretch of Nine consecutive losses, and 12 of 14 ? that Got Murray fired.

But that all happened early in the year, late November, early December.

The Kings under Sutter from mid December on, played respectable hockey.

This is how I see it as well. Basically we have to go back to a point where a coach was fired to find a time where the team was playing worse.You cannot sugarcoat 14 of 38

 

[damacles1156]

The Kings have already blown more leads this season, than the passed two seasons combined....That includes play-offs.

 

[Little Psycho]

Difference this season is the Kings are not playing a strong defensive game and failing to score. They've been playing an absolutely **** defensive game and can't protect leads. 2012 they just needed more scoring and it took off from there because everything else was firing. The PP? Activated once they got into the post season. It was their last weakness.

2014? Still strong defensively, couldn't score goals again. Found their scoring touch, took off from there. Funny enough, in the post season they lost their ability to defend well and hold leads. That part of the post season has carried into this season, but not the comebacks that allowed them to win a cup. Their D no longer bends. It breaks. You can't count on the team to hold a lead in the 3rd. You can't count on them to win in OT or the SO.

Playing with a lead? Suck.
Playing from behind? Suck.
PP? Suck.
PK? Suck.

What are they doing well in this season? Possession?
Well, I guess it's all fine then.

Exactly. The main problem the previous years was that they just couldn't score. But this season is a different story.

Those who are positive stay positive, but the stats don't lie and it sure as hell does not look pretty for the Kings.

 

[KingsFan7824]

True that 39 points in 38 games won't get you into a playoff spot, but they aren't out-and-out losing games, they are getting a point in these games. You have to remember that, I do see a win streak at some point this season and that win streak will get them right back into a prime playoff spot. They aren't that far from second place in the division!

It's going to have to come on the road. They don't play more than 3 straight games at home for the rest of the season.

 

[KingsOfCali25]

Richards probably can't be moved. If Dean could trade him, it would have already happened.

Pretty much this! That would mean Stoll should be traded at the TDL or not resigned in the offseason. Shore looks like he can handle a bottom 6 NHL role right now and easily replace him for cheap.

If the Kings have no chance at the playoffs, I'd trade Stoll, Williams, Nolan, and maybe Regehr.

One of King/Clifford/Andreoff could go too if needed be in a package.

 

[Sacha Baron Corbin]

Richards probably can't be moved. If Dean could trade him, it would have already happened.

I don't believe this one bit. Lombardi gave Richards a chance by not buying him out during the offseason. It'd make no sense to turn around and move him a few months into the season. There will be a team that takes Richards, whether it be Edmonton or whoever else.

Richards won't be a King next season, if he isn't moved by the deadline he will be moved in the offseason.

Buying him out now will handicap the Kings for what, the next 5 years? It wouldn't be worth it. He will be traded even if it's just for a pick.

 

[BigKing]

Are you going to stick with them or just *****?

Bottom line is we can all sit in our chairs and ***** about these guys, but I have confidence in this team. They are still the defending champs that have to defend the title every ****ing game. This is a league that defines "parity." And this is hockey. One goal matters most nights.

Bottom line, believe in the team or get lost. These "**** this team" comments are childish.

It's like you aren't watching the games but I know you are.

This team as currently assembled is not winning the Cup. You have to know that.

 

[damacles1156]

I don't believe this one bit. Lombardi gave Richards a chance by not buying him out during the offseason. It'd make no sense to turn around and move him a few months into the season. There will be a team that takes Richards, whether it be Edmonton or whoever else.

Richards won't be a King next season, if he isn't moved by the deadline he will be moved in the offseason.

Buying him out now will handicap the Kings for what, the next 5 years? It wouldn't be worth it. He will be traded even if it's just for a pick.

His buyout Cap hit would stretch over ten years, the life of the entire contract.

Buy-Outs are not designed to help teams, the CBA wants teams to be punished for buying players out.

They are to be used, as a last resort. Lombardi chance to buy-out Richards is gone.