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C Trevor Zegras (2019, 9th, ANA)

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Where would he go in a redraft if it was done now? Obviously we are still only a little over a year out from the 19 draft so any list is far from definitive but I’d have to imagine he’s moving up fast.

After watching him this tournament I think he could be a top 3 player from that class when it’s all said and done. This season should be real interesting for that draft class as Hughes and Kakko need to show some some great improvement this year in order to not end up being surpassed by other players in their class.
 
Caps off a legendary tournament with a big game. That was a tight game with a lot of top prospects that couldn't get anything going, and he produced. That's the kind of thing that separates the elite prospects from the great ones.

He will be a star in the NHL.
 
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grentthealien said:
Where would he go in a redraft if it was done now? Obviously we are still only a little over a year out from the 19 draft so any list is far from definitive but I’d have to imagine he’s moving up fast.

After watching him this tournament I think he could be a top 3 player from that class when it’s all said and done. This season should be real interesting for that draft class as Hughes and Kakko need to show some some great improvement this year in order to not end up being surpassed by other players in their class.
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Zegras would have been drafted higher had it not been for the injury at the draft.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
Good question. I actually expected disagreement. I think we've seen this very odd blurring of the lines recently that combines passing vision and creativity into hockey sense. I highly disagree with this. I think they are very distinct categories. Those spin passes we see from Zegras or being to see difficult passes others don't see is pure raw creativity or vision. To me, those are offensive attributes, not tactical/sense/IQ/mental attributes. So when I see people say Zegras has elite hockey sense, I think they really mean he has elite vision/creativity/ability to find solutions offensively. To me, hockey sense combines how well a player understands positioning, where teammates should be, where opponents should be, limiting errors with the puck, the ability to know when to try to do a lot and when to try to make simple plays, situational decision-making, anticipating player movements for players and opponents.

To me, Turcotte is excellent at these types of categories. I think there probably was no player in the 2019 draft better at these categories. There are going to be people that say McDavid, Kane, MacKinnon have the best hockey sense in the NHL, but I've consistently argued otherwise. I simply think they misinterpret what hockey sense is. I think players such as Bergeron, Couturier, Barkov, Kopitar, ROR, Cirelli, Stone have the best hockey sense. Thats not to suggest Zegras doesn't have above-average hockey sense, but those spin passes or seeing a player open that other players wouldn't see isn't hockey sense, in my opinion. Thats an offensive attribute. Hockey sense is neither offense or defensive. It's the non-skills/physical/athletic part of the game. You could call it a mental/tactical skill.
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Good post. I've given some thought to try and break down what "Hockey Sense" is. I was trying to come up with a good way to help young kids learn it. I was able to boil it down to:

"Hockey Sense = spatial awareness + strategy/tactics"

I think that passing, vision, etc fall within this realm (as they are a product of spatial awareness). But Hockey Sense includes other things like knowing when to take an icing (goalie lost his stick) the difference between a "good" penalty and a "bad" penalty, when to pinch as a defensemen, etc.
 
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Creative, hard-working and not intimidated by physical play.

Makes passes that you think aren't possible.

Great player, and that interview is going to go down into USA Hockey lore.

Instant legend.

MichaelFarrell said:
I think you have to give Zegres best forward of the tournament. I’m shocked they gave it to Stutzle. Stutzle was good but Zegres has 18 points in 7 games.
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You have to also consider that the IIHF's mission is to grow the game in Europe and highlighting a German player certainly helps with that.

Zegras is going to be remembered regardless of what individual accolades he's given.

There's nothing bigger than MVP anyway.
 
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I think you have to give Zegres best forward of the tournament. I’m shocked they gave it to Stutzle. Stutzle was good but Zegres has 18 points in 7 games.
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Honest question, can they give him the MVP and Best Forward? Seems like most tournaments have an MVP then an all tournament team made up of the best of the rest. Could be wrong...I often am.
 
MartinS82 said:
Honest question, can they give him the MVP and Best Forward? Seems like most tournaments have an MVP then an all tournament team made up of the best of the rest. Could be wrong...I often am.
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Apparently the MVP has not been the positional award winner 3 times out of 20+ years. Someone produced a table somewhere.

So it's rare, but it happens occasionally.

Again, I think the IIHF took an opportunity to recognize a player from a non-traditional hockey nation while ensuring that the most important award went to the most deserving player.
 
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grentthealien said:
Where would he go in a redraft if it was done now? Obviously we are still only a little over a year out from the 19 draft so any list is far from definitive but I’d have to imagine he’s moving up fast.

After watching him this tournament I think he could be a top 3 player from that class when it’s all said and done. This season should be real interesting for that draft class as Hughes and Kakko need to show some some great improvement this year in order to not end up being surpassed by other players in their class.
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It's way too early. As of now the 2019 draft looks absolutely sick. I can't remember the last time I looked at the top 10 a year and a half later and thought I would have been happy with any of them at number 3.
 
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Gliff said:
It's way too early. As of now the 2019 draft looks absolutely sick. I can't remember the last time I looked at the top 10 a year and a half later and thought I would have been happy with any of them at number 3.
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Stone cold lock that 2015’s top 10 ends up miles better than 2019’s:
  1. McDavid
  2. Eichel
  3. Strome
  4. Marner
  5. Hanifin
  6. Zacha
  7. Provorov
  8. Werenski
  9. Meier
  10. Rantanen
2016 was pretty great too - Matthews, Laine, M. Tkachuk, PLD, Keller and Sergachev all went top 10 - I’d bet on it ending up a lot better than 2019’s top 10.

I’d actually say ~1 year after the draft is when ppl tend to be most hyped about it. Guys are crushing junior and college leagues in their D+1, and haven’t yet hit the harsh reality of the NHL, where many seemingly great prospects turn out to be not so good. IMO 2019 looks about average, but we’ll see with time.

Zegras definitely rises significantly in a re-draft though, he looks real good. Hughes, Kakko, Dach, Byram, Turcotte, Seider, Cozens and Zegras are all reasonably arguable, but I’d have Zegras around the middle of that list, 5th-ish overall.
 
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Adding that shot to his reptior really opened up a bunch more ways for this guy to produce. I think he’s going to be a top of the lineup guy, but if he somehow develops an elite gear, he could fight for scoring titles.
 
Panarin/Marner play style?
 
Odie Cleghorn said:
What injury?? Krebs was injured before the draft. Don't remember Zegras having any injuries.
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You're right, I bombed that one. It was Krebs who had a bad injury. Bob had him 7th I believe and draft analysis had him ranked around 3rd.
 

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