C Shane Wright (2022, 4th, SEA) Part 4

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Bergeron comparison is a comparison of playing style and if you watch Wright's defensive zone play, combined with his offensive skill, it's reasonable.

As for the other bit, it's not the worst thing I've seen him write. In 2017, he said Cale Makar and Erik Brannstrom were "the same player"

Anyhow, I'll repeat what I wrote earlier, as you appear to have missed it. He is not always right (no scout is) but him saying Wright's playing style compared to Bergeron's was a hell of a lot more accurate than some of the ones I've seen on this board.

Wright was a powerful skater with great straight line speed and elite shooting capabilities who floated around the ice when he didn't have the puck. The stylistic comparison makes no sense.

 

[majormajor]

Hilariously? Dude, it was Kyle Woodlief of Red Line Report. I mean, you can disagree with him all you want, but the guy has pretty good track record for evaluating talent. Every scout makes mistakes, of course, but this guy makes a living at this. People pay him for his scouting reports.

Bergeron comparison is a comparison of playing style and if you watch Wright's defensive zone play, combined with his offensive skill, it's reasonable.

As for the other bit, it's not the worst thing I've seen him write. In 2017, he said Cale Makar and Erik Brannstrom were "the same player"

Anyhow, I'll repeat what I wrote earlier, as you appear to have missed it. He is not always right (no scout is) but him saying Wright's playing style compared to Bergeron's was a hell of a lot more accurate than some of the ones I've seen on this board.

The playstyle difference is precisely why the Bergeron - Wright comparison was ridiculous. And I mean it literally, it deserved ridicule.

He didn't have Bergeron's sense about where to be and he was the polar opposite from Bergeron in terms of ability to win the battle. Bergeron didn't just passively outthink opponents, he was engaging quickly, digging in for body position and lifting sticks and otherwise being physically engaged. Wright was one of the most contact-averse top draft prospects I can recall. He would very often lose his balance under light contact. I would say Wright looks much more natural now, he's improved his balance and strength and most importantly become much more aggressive with the puck. But he looks like a scoring line center prospect not like a future Selke candidate.

 

[Garbageyuk]

Welp…

 

[Just Linda]

Welp…

Oh my brother, you gotta testify.

I have no idea what this welp refers to.

 

[ORRFForever]

Wright needs to step up.

 

[josra33]

Wright needs to step up.

His advanced stats all show he’s producing. Just the puck isn’t going in for him and his linemates. Tell me you stat watch without telling me you stat watch…

 

[ORRFForever]

His advanced stats all show he’s producing. Just the puck isn’t going in for him and his linemates. Tell me you stat watch without telling me you stat watch…

I hope you're right.

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

Looks like he's taking the Lafreniere path. Willing to grind, willing to go to the front of the net, engages the defensemen. He's a big guy and I think this style of play will suit him better than a Pettersson-style of play.

 

[Scomerica]

First goal of the season last night. His line is playing really well

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Bergeron comparison is a comparison of playing style and if you watch Wright's defensive zone play, combined with his offensive skill, it's reasonable.

As for the other bit, it's not the worst thing I've seen him write. In 2017, he said Cale Makar and Erik Brannstrom were "the same player"

Anyhow, I'll repeat what I wrote earlier, as you appear to have missed it. He is not always right (no scout is) but him saying Wright's playing style compared to Bergeron's was a hell of a lot more accurate than some of the ones I've seen on this board.

Bottom line: Wight was over-drafted at 4OA.

 

[Ryan Van Horne]

Bottom line: Wight was over-drafted at 4OA.

The real bottom line: You can't make a full and accurate assessment of a draft class until at least five years later. I am amused by all the self-annointed experts who seem to think it's possible after a little more than two. (Some of the real geniuses were even able to do it sooner!)

 

[majormajor]

Bottom line: Wight was over-drafted at 4OA.

I can tell you that not many Kraken fans are feeling bad about him right now. He's developing well and improving year to year. I wouldn't be surprised if he has a little scoring breakout soon.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Glad to hear he is buzzing out there , somewhat

 

[ReHabs]

Bottom line: Wight was over-drafted at 4OA.

It's strange to see such a comment made so early in his career when no one picked after him has clearly eclipsed him.

 

[jj cale]

Bottom line: Wight was over-drafted at 4OA.

As Hab fans we really should know better then to write guys off based on their first year or couple of years.............we just went through that with Slavkovsky after his rookie year.

How can we forget all the moaning and groaning from knee jerk reaction posters here who called him a bust after his inaugural season and it was non stop " should have drafted Cooley you bozos" posts on here left and right. That all looks pretty silly now.

It's just too early to write him off yet and say he was drafted too high at this point, like another poster here mentioned, you need about 5 years before you can legitimately make a call like that.

And I'm far from Wrights biggest fan.

 

[Dominance]

Funny how Wright takes all the doom and gloom while there’s not a single peep about Beniers’ pathetic production in absurdly favourable usage while being considerably older. It is near-unbelievable that anybody could deserve those OZ and PP1 minutes and produce so little in today’s NHL. If he’s given the chance, there’s a decent chance that by the end of the season Wright is Seattle’s top C going forward. Kid is 20 years old - maybe everyone should wait to see what he can do with 18+ minutes of premium OZ and PP1 usage in a couple years before drawing conclusions on what he can ultimately become.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

As Hab fans we really should know better then to write guys off based on their first year or couple of years.............we just went through that with Slavkovsky after his rookie year.

How can we forget all the moaning and groaning from knee jerk reaction posters here who called him a bust after his inaugural season and it was non stop " should have drafted Cooley you bozos" posts on here left and right. That all looks pretty silly now.

It's just too early to write him off yet and say he was drafted too high at this point, like another poster here mentioned, you need about 5 years before you can legitimately make a call like that.

And I'm far from Wrights biggest fan.

I'm not writing Wright off. Only that he was over drafted at 4 OA.

If you had a time machine, it would only be a true Wright fan or a member of his family who wouldn't draft any of the following players before Wright if given the chance at 4 OA: Hutson, Luneau, Snuggerud, Korchinsky, Gauthier, Chesley, Mintyukov, or Jiricek. And there are several other players (Minten, Beck, Kulich or Casey) who are at least Wright's equal in potential.

I hope I'm wrong and Wright goes on to prove his doubters were wrong.

 

[jj cale]

I'm not writing Wright off. Only that he was over drafted at 4 OA.

If you had a time machine, it would only be a true Wright fan or a member of his family who wouldn't draft any of the following players before Wright if given the chance at 4 OA: Hutson, Luneau, Snuggerud, Korchinsky, Gauthier, Chesley, Mintyukov, or Jiricek. And there are several other players (Minten, Beck, Kulich or Casey) who are at least Wright's equal in potential.

I hope I'm wrong and Wright goes on to prove his doubters were wrong.

I don't agree with this, i mean just take a player like Jiricek...............what's he done to this point?

Most of the guys you've listed here are still question marks concerning ultimate potential like Wright IMO.

 

[3074326]

I don't agree with this, i mean just take a player like Jiricek...............what's he done to this point?

Most of the guys you've listed here are still question marks concerning ultimate potential like Wright IMO.

Was literally typing the question "what has a guy like Jiricek done to be drafted higher?" when your post popped up.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Funny how Wright takes all the doom and gloom while there’s not a single peep about Beniers’ pathetic production in absurdly favourable usage while being considerably older. It is near-unbelievable that anybody could deserve those OZ and PP1 minutes and produce so little in today’s NHL. If he’s given the chance, there’s a decent chance that by the end of the season Wright is Seattle’s top C going forward. Kid is 20 years old - maybe everyone should wait to see what he can do with 18+ minutes of premium OZ and PP1 usage in a couple years before drawing conclusions on what he can ultimately become.

You're surprised people aren't talking about Beniers in a Shane Wright thread?

 

[Dominance]

I'm not writing Wright off. Only that he was over drafted at 4 OA.

If you had a time machine, it would only be a true Wright fan or a member of his family who wouldn't draft any of the following players before Wright if given the chance at 4 OA: Hutson, Luneau, Snuggerud, Korchinsky, Gauthier, Chesley, Mintyukov, or Jiricek. And there are several other players (Minten, Beck, Kulich or Casey) who are at least Wright's equal in potential.

I hope I'm wrong and Wright goes on to prove his doubters were wrong.

The players named are outright laughable. They have promise, sure, but why greater than or even close to Wright who’s doing more at the top level right now? The only one even worth mentioning is Hutson, whose waterbug tendencies will quickly lose their shine as the lack of positive results pile up, and perhaps Mintyukov. Listing guys like Chesley or Beck at this point is truly the definition of ludicrous.

 

[jj cale]

Was literally typing the question "what has a guy like Jiricek done to be drafted higher?" when your post popped up.

Jiricek actually might not go as high as he went in a redraft, bumpy start to his career for sure.

Of course like Wright..........way too early to make a call on him either.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

The players named are outright laughable. They have promise, sure, but why greater than or even close to Wright who’s doing more at the top level right now? The only one even worth mentioning is Hutson, whose waterbug tendencies will quickly lose their shine as the lack of positive results pile up, and perhaps Mintyukov. Listing guys like Chesley or Beck at this point is truly the definition of ludicrous.

Ludicrous? Laughable? Let's just take one of those laughable players, Cutter Gauthier . Last season, the Flyers traded Gauthier to Anaheim for Jamie Drysdale and a 2nd round choice. What do you think Seattle could get for Wright on the open market?

Anyone who watched Wright in the years leading up to the 2022 draft could see that Wright would never be play driver. Wright will play in the NHL, but not at a level that warranted taking him at 4 OA.

In a re-draft, Wright's not going in the top 10. Perhaps not even in the top 15.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Ludicrous? Laughable? Let's just take one of those laughable players, Cutter Gauthier . Last season, the Flyers traded Gauthier to Anaheim for Jamie Drysdale and a 2nd round choice. What do you think Seattle could get for Wright on the open market?

Anyone who watched Wright in the years leading up to the 2022 draft could see that Wright would never be play driver. Wright will play in the NHL, but not at a level that warranted taking him at 4 OA.

In a re-draft, Wright's not going in the top 10. Perhaps not even in the top 15.

I've been one of Wright's biggest critics, but he's pretty comfortably top 10-15 at this point. He had a great progression year last season and hasn't looked out of place this year.

 

[jj cale]

Ludicrous? Laughable? Let's just take one of those laughable players, Cutter Gauthier . Last season, the Flyers traded Gauthier to Anaheim for Jamie Drysdale and a 2nd round choice. What do you think Seattle could get for Wright on the open market?

Anyone who watched Wright in the years leading up to the 2022 draft could see that Wright would never be play driver. Wright will play in the NHL, but not at a level that warranted taking him at 4 OA.

In a re-draft, Wright's not going in the top 10. Perhaps not even in the top 15.

I'm not sure what the Flyers got in a trade for Cutter Gauthier has to do with what level of player Wright and gautheir actually turn out to be.

We are talking about what the players have shown thus far to make a call on what they can or will become...............................and you are using a guy like gauthier who currently has zero points in 5 games to make your case.

I gotta ask, is what the flyers received in a trade for gauthier your proof he will end up the better player? Because for sure you can't be basing it on actual production.

Gauthier done f*** all in that regard so far.