C Shane Wright (2022, 4th, SEA) Part 4

[cg98]

speed development against what teens? On a team that Seattle has NO control over on how their prospect is being used.

Yes, because thats what literally every NHL team has done with their players. If youre not ready at 18-19 yrs you go back, like we literally explained to you.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

speed development against what teens? On a team that Seattle has NO control over on how their prospect is being used.

Yes. I am not sure why you are acting like this is some foreign concept to develop a prospect. Better players then Wright is as a prospect and likely to ever be have gone back to junior. Do you have an actual reason why he is above playing at a level he has never dominated?

 

[gstommylee]

You dont develop players by benching them and not winning games. You clearly dont understand any of this and thank God you dont run a hockey team. Good grief.

There is more to developing a player than ice time to where its worth actually keeping him in the NHL. Way more than what any fanbase understands.

its called being able to control what goes on with the player. The jr majors do not give a rats ass what the NHL wants they only care for themselves and their own interest.

Yes, because thats what literally every NHL team has done with their players. If youre not ready at 18-19 yrs you go back, like we literally explained to you.

Not every 18/19 year old player is the same...

 

[TheBeastCoast]

It was good enough for Marner and Leon but Shane Wright? Now that right there is a bridge to far. Truly ridiculous to even suggest he goes back!

 

[gstommylee]

It was good enough for Marner and Leon but Shane Wright? Now that right there is a bridge to far. Truly ridiculous to even suggest he goes back!

Marner went back had nothing to with talent. It had to do with that he was undersized and needed bulk up a bit muscle wise.

 

[cg98]

There is more to developing a player than ice time to where its worth actually keeping him in the NHL. Way more than what any fanbase understands.

its called being able to control what goes on with the player. The jr majors do not give a rats ass what the NHL wants they only care for themselves and their own interest.



Not every 18/19 year old player is the same...

Shane Wright is not ready for the NHL and wasn't even one of the best players in the OHL. So that point is mute. It is absolutely in the best interest to get your prospects into games, you dont develop them by sitting them in the pb or not even playing them 10 mins.

Marner and Draisaitl are players that went back to junior when both their NHL teams were dogshit, I guess it didnt really work out for them did it?

Marner went back had nothing to with talent. It had to do with that he was undersized and needed bulk up a bit muscle wise.

Sooooo he needed time and needed to go back is what youre saying? I wonder

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

I think you could argue Marner was actually further ahead in his D+1 than Shane is, too.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Marner went back had nothing to with talent. It had to do with that he was undersized and needed bulk up a bit muscle wise.

He wouldn't have made the team the year after if that was what they wanted. He went back because the Leafs were going to be really bad and the Knights really good. He got to dominate juniors to a level Wright couldn't even fathom and he has turned out alright. Now what about Leon? Just admit that Wright isn't above the league and should be sent back lol

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

speed development against what teens? On a team that Seattle has NO control over on how their prospect is being used.

He'd be developing his strength and speed to help when he returns to the nhl the next szn...via these magic processes called aging and strength training.

 

[gstommylee]

Shane Wright is not ready for the NHL and wasn't even one of the best players in the OHL. So that point is mute. It is absolutely in the best interest to get your prospects into games, you dont develop them by sitting them in the pb or not even playing them 10 mins.

Marner and Draisaitl are players that went back to junior when both their NHL teams were dogshit, I guess it didnt really work out for them did it?

then might as well keep him in the OHL then AHL for the rest of his career then...

Best interest in who? The team? Wright? Wright's family? HIs agent? Or people on a message board.

There is way way more to develop a player then ice time and some of it has nothing to do with sports.

if jr majors is the perfect development leagues as what people on this message board think it is then why didn't we send him back with the rest of the jr major players then back in September.

He's one of those inbetweeners stuck between jr majors and the NHL. This is where players who are eligable are played in the AHL. OHL will not achive what is in Wrights or the teams best interest. Nevermind he would be playing with team mates who are teens that aren't as developed as a player and aren't fully mature as a person yet.

Sometimes not always its way better to let the player play with older players who can teach him the ropes of being a NHLer, get better training getting better nutritional coaching especially for higher level activity and overall allowing him to develop as a human being.

All that matter is what he thinks, his parents think and what his agent thinks. Not us on this message board. And as far as i read those that matter in how things are going as whom i listed are on board with it.

 

[cg98]

then might as well keep him in the OHL then AHL for the rest of his career then...

Best interest in who? The team? Wright? Wright's family? HIs agent? Or people on a message board.

There is way way more to develop a player then ice time and some of it has nothing to do with sports.

if jr majors is the perfect development leagues as what people on this message board think it is then why didn't we send him back with the rest of the jr major players then back in September.

He's one of those inbetweeners stuck between jr majors and the NHL. This is where players who are eligable are played in the AHL. OHL will not achive what is in Wrights or the teams best interest. Nevermind he would be playing with team mates who are teens that aren't as developed as a player and aren't fully mature as a person yet.

Sometimes not always its way better to let the player play with older players who can teach him the ropes of being a NHLer, get better training getting better nutritional coaching especially for higher level activity and overall allowing him to develop as a human being.

All that matter is what he thinks, his parents think and what his agent thinks. Not us on this message board. And as far as i read those that matter in how things are going as whom i listed are on board with it.

If Wright isnt good enough for the NHL and didnt even excell in the OHL, hes not going to be any better in the AHL lmfao. Every argument you make is a terrible one. At the pace Seattle is developing him he may as well be an AHLer for life.

He is not ready. End of discussion and you dont have an argument for it. It is in Wrights and Seattle's long term interest that he gets games right now, and if he isnt getting them in the NHL he should be sent to the OHL. Practice does not have the same level of intensity that games do, you do not develop your entire career by just practicing. You do not get gametime experience in practice, you do not learn what errors you make and can improve on in gametime during practice. You do not develop anything by just sitting there and watching in the pb. Thats what playing real games is for, which he is not doing. You dont understand that, and dont have a credible argument for it.

 

[gstommylee]

If Wright isnt good enough for the NHL and didnt even excell in the OHL, hes not going to be any better in the AHL lmfao. Every argument you make is a terrible one. At the pace Seattle is developing him he may as well be an AHLer for life.

He is not ready. End of discussion and you dont have an argument for it. It is in Wrights and Seattle's long term interest that he gets games right now, and if he isnt getting them in the NHL he should be sent to the OHL. Practice does not have the same level of intensity that games do, you do not develop your entire career by just practicing. You do not get gametime experience in practice, you do not learn what errors you make and can improve on in gametime during practice. You do not develop anything by just sitting there and watching in the pb. Thats what playing real games is for, which he is not doing. You dont understand that, and dont have a credible argument for it.

Its about controlling how the player develops. Seattle can't control what his OHL team does for him. They can't control what players Kingston has around him play or how those players behave, how they train him how they coach him in what he should eat etc. They have no control. He should be in the AHL but can't.

Maybe they are waiting for a better OHL situation that would be better for Wright to be in than sending him back to Kingston and that could be very well happen. jr major teams trade players around when they get to the point of ending their careers in the jrs majors around all the time.

 

[bert]

It was good enough for Marner and Leon but Shane Wright? Now that right there is a bridge to far. Truly ridiculous to even suggest he goes back!

Spezza too. Was a much better prospect and played at exceptional status as well.

 

[cg98]

Its about controlling how the player develops. Seattle can't control what his OHL team does for him. They can't control what players Kingston has around him play or behave, how they train him how they coach him in what he should eat etc. They have no control. He should be in the AHL but can't.

Maybe they are waiting for a better OHL situation that would be better for Wright to appear than sending him back to Kingston.

And? So what? That's literally every prospect thats not with their NHL team. Yet his peers are still getting games in their leagues they're playing in. Under Seattle's control right now, hes not developing. If hes not going to play games he should be in Kingston.

 

[TheGr8Cornholio]

He’s getting an NHL pay check right now, whether he plays or not.
If he thinks he deserves it, then that is probably wrong.

Does he get one if he goes to the OHL?

 

[William H Bonney]

Some people are having a difficult time coming to terms with the fact that Wright isn't that great of a prospect.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Does he get one if he goes to the OHL?

50 bucks a week or something. Players don’t decide if they deserve an NHL contract. It looks like he should go back to Kingston though.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Its about controlling how the player develops. Seattle can't control what his OHL team does for him. They can't control what players Kingston has around him play or how those players behave, how they train him how they coach him in what he should eat etc. They have no control. He should be in the AHL but can't.

Maybe they are waiting for a better OHL situation that would be better for Wright to be in than sending him back to Kingston and that could be very well happen. jr major teams trade players around when they get to the point of ending their careers in the jrs majors around all the time.

getting scratched or playing 5mins a game is just horrible for a kid doesnt matter the situation plus he already missed a full year due to covid ,theres no way that staying in the NHL barely playing is better for hes career longterm then being in the OHL dominating ( btw something he didnt do last year )

We went through the same thing with Mesar most people wanted him in the AHL in a limited role but management felt it would be better for hes career longterm to hit 80+ points in the CHL then 40 in the AHL and hes been killing it with Kitchener so far

send Wright to Kingston he'll play half the game and be an important piece for team canada this winter

 

[Golden_Jet]

Its about controlling how the player develops. Seattle can't control what his OHL team does for him. They can't control what players Kingston has around him play or how those players behave, how they train him how they coach him in what he should eat etc. They have no control. He should be in the AHL but can't.

Maybe they are waiting for a better OHL situation that would be better for Wright to be in than sending him back to Kingston and that could be very well happen. jr major teams trade players around when they get to the point of ending their careers in the jrs majors around all the time.

Certainly would be better long term for him to go back to Kingston

 

[Peasy]

Does he get one if he goes to the OHL?

Hes already made almost 200k according to capfriendly. Even if he never played in the NHL this year he still would have gotten 95k from his signing bonus.

 

[TheGr8Cornholio]

50 bucks a week or something. Players don’t decide if they deserve an NHL contract. It looks like he should go back to Kingston though.

Absolutely. I’m aware of this. Was wondering if Wright thought he deserved to stay up and if Francis is a “yes man”. Judging from his press conference on the matter, he either:
1) doesn’t know squat about development
2) has pressure to keep him up there (expectations, marketing, Wright’s agent - we don’t know)

 

[gstommylee]

 

[Panthaz89]

Really should be sent down....no harm in doing so really Sabres sent Reinhart down after his first 9 game stint and sent Mitts down to the AHL when he was slumping in the NHL. Shane isn't so far above juniors that he should be sitting in the NHL press box.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Don’t forget how 6 minutes of ice time helps his development. Lol.
Plus who the hell is Wompie.

 

[tmlmatus]

This is such a shit post. Having good facilities and practice doesn't make you a better hockey player.

If that were the case any 4th line plug would make huge progress since they get to practice with the team and get massages every day.

Players of Wright's caliber need to play against other players in a meaningful way otherwise they will stagnate. Look at Wrights progress (or there lack of) when he took an entire year off due to covid.