C Nick Suzuki - Guelph Storm, OHL (2017, 13th, VGK; traded to MTL)

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I know it's to early to give a full breakdown of the trade but I wonder if the Leafs wish they kept that pick(24) instead of the 3 they picked up(34, 61 and 68)
We are fine with it, Dermott is progressing well and while not taken with those extra picks, it enabled us to take Nielsen.
 
I know it's to early to give a full breakdown of the trade but I wonder if the Leafs wish they kept that pick(24) instead of the 3 they picked up(34, 61 and 68)

We are fine with it, Dermott is progressing well and while not taken with those extra picks, it enabled us to take Nielsen.

Not every thread has to be about the Leafs...
 
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I know it's to early to give a full breakdown of the trade but I wonder if the Leafs wish they kept that pick(24) instead of the 3 they picked up(34, 61 and 68)

Why did you bring this up? Now this once nice, informative thread about a draft prospect will be attacked by a swarm of Leafs fans and this thread will be 50 pages long.
 
Why did you bring this up? Now this once nice, informative thread about a draft prospect will be attacked by a swarm of Leafs fans and this thread will be 50 pages long.

Blame Juxtaposer, he brought Travis Konecny's name into the discussion(which just got me to think about that trade). lol
 
I've been browsing a lot of team boards that are picking in the 16-25 range and everyone is like "oh man Suzuki would be a nice pick around there but there's probably better guys available"

To those people, I say there is a 100% chance Suzuki is unavailable (or at least there should be, who knows with some GMs) past 15, and in my opinion should be taken at 10 at the absolute latest.

I really, really hope that he falls to 16 but it's just not happening.
 
I've been browsing a lot of team boards that are picking in the 16-25 range and everyone is like "oh man Suzuki would be a nice pick around there but there's probably better guys available"

To those people, I say there is a 100% chance Suzuki is unavailable (or at least there should be, who knows with some GMs) past 15, and in my opinion should be taken at 10 at the absolute latest.

I really, really hope that he falls to 16 but it's just not happening.
He could be. I remember Robby Fabbri was drafted in the 20's after having an amazing draft year. Konecny had a bad draft year (relative to his Draft-1) and had the size concerns issue coming out of the OHL and slipped to the 20's too. I don't think it is likely he'll be available when my team picks at 17, but I do think there is a chance.
 
He could be. I remember Robby Fabbri was drafted in the 20's after having an amazing draft year. Konecny had a bad draft year (relative to his Draft-1) and had the size concerns issue coming out of the OHL and slipped to the 20's too. I don't think it is likely he'll be available when my team picks at 17, but I do think there is a chance.

Yeah I was really surprised Fabbri fell. Him and Konecny were great picks team passed on likely due to size.
 
I've been browsing a lot of team boards that are picking in the 16-25 range and everyone is like "oh man Suzuki would be a nice pick around there but there's probably better guys available"

To those people, I say there is a 100% chance Suzuki is unavailable (or at least there should be, who knows with some GMs) past 15, and in my opinion should be taken at 10 at the absolute latest.

I really, really hope that he falls to 16 but it's just not happening.

I swear I go into every 2017 draftee threads and there are people saying "there is guaranteed no way this guy drops past 10 or 15"

How is it that 25 prospects will now be drafted in top 15 with all these guarantees lol. Good chance he is there at 15 or later
 
I've been browsing a lot of team boards that are picking in the 16-25 range and everyone is like "oh man Suzuki would be a nice pick around there but there's probably better guys available"

To those people, I say there is a 100% chance Suzuki is unavailable (or at least there should be, who knows with some GMs) past 15, and in my opinion should be taken at 10 at the absolute latest.

I really, really hope that he falls to 16 but it's just not happening.

Don't think he gets passed the islanders at 15.

With the way I feel it make shake out, Suzuki has a great chance of being the BPA when the isles pick. Obviously someone could drop who the isles have rated higher but chances are if that happens it's because a guy like Suzuki was picked early.
 
Who are you kidding Nashville would pick a defenseman :P

Actually before the Fabbro pick, Nashville's defensive depth was actually very poor, sure they have an elite top 4, but if one of them is gone, they're stuck using a nightmarish bottom 3. Nashville develops great Dman, but don't be fooled to thinking they mostly draft Dman lol. Nashville also needs more center depth. When your 2nd best center is Jarnkrok/Fisher, you're not having a good time.
 
Seems like a lot us and the scouts list disagree. The highest I've seen him on a list is 11, and many he's closer to 20 than 10. McKenzie didn't have him in the top 15 either. He's like the opposite Rasmussen.
 
I've been browsing a lot of team boards that are picking in the 16-25 range and everyone is like "oh man Suzuki would be a nice pick around there but there's probably better guys available"

To those people, I say there is a 100% chance Suzuki is unavailable (or at least there should be, who knows with some GMs) past 15, and in my opinion should be taken at 10 at the absolute latest.

I really, really hope that he falls to 16 but it's just not happening.

I don't think he makes it past the Isles as he fits the profile of what they draft up front. Speed, skill, smarts and they don't have qualms about size. 3/4 of last 1st round forwards were fast, skilled, and bit undersized. I think the fair amount of powerforwards will tempt many teams.
 
I worry about his skating at the next level.
A reasonable concern, he may lack the skating to overcome his lack of size/strength to buy time/create space at the next level. Although, I think his IQ and skills are worth gambling on in a draft where most prospects have serious concerns.
 
This guy might have the best hands in the whole draft. How is he not ranked higher?
The question of how will he get separation at the next level. He's above-average but not great skater, while not being big/strong. It is hard to be a high-end offensive player without the ability to create space. His hands help him, but it's not quite enough. His hands are good, not sure if they are the best in the draft but they are up there. His IQ is amazing. He's my 2nd favorite prospect in the OHL after Vilardi (who I hold in very high regard).
 
This guy might have the best hands in the whole draft. How is he not ranked higher?

For the type of player he is, slightly undersized winger (likely a winger at the NHL), it's a hard journey to enter into the top 8-10 of any draft unless they have elite productivity, very high-end talent, and a fair amount of pedigree going back ~1-3 years before their draft year. So there's that aspect then there's the slight red flag on him (more like an asterisk) which is his skating. Then you factor in the relatively low value of wingers as a commodity in today's NHL and you have your answer.

He's not a bad skater but his margin of error for skating is smaller because of his size. He doesn't really have elite wheels or anything, he's just an average->above average skater at the NHL level.
 
Flames love players that only question mark is skating. It looks to have paid off for Tkachuk, Monahan, Fox, R. Andersson, I bet he goes right in that range too.
 

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