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C Mitchell Marner - London Knights, OHL (2015 Draft)

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Knies iT

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Knightnight said:
Perhaps watch some games before actually critiquing a player if you want credibility. There is a video of a shift by shift for marner to show either 1 you don't watch or more likely don't know what to watch. I believe its a combination of both in your case because if you watched a lot of London games you would know Marner has not played with Domi most of the year.
Secondly maybe you should pull % of Stromes points with McDavid. Its very high because they PP and PK together. Also on the ice for empty netters and sometimes even play 5 on 5 together.
That being said Strome is an excellent prospect.
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Sick rebuttal. You respond to my post with a YouTube clip featuring one game of Marner.

My points still stand, your post was just a load of butt hurt.
 
McDavidMcCup

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Sick rebuttal. You respond to my post with a YouTube clip featuring one game of Marner.

My points still stand, your post was just a load of butt hurt.
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A load of butt hurt? Maturity abounds.

The clip he showed is actually reasonable evidence as it is a complete package, albeit one game only. You see the strengths of Marner's game.
 
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95 said:
Sick rebuttal. You respond to my post with a YouTube clip featuring one game of Marner.

My points still stand, your post was just a load of butt hurt.
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Why don't you post something to verify what you're talking about...because, honestly, it seems like you haven't watched Marner.
 
Wintersun

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He is playing one hell of a game tonight. Has the 2 goals in the game so far but could have 6 or 7 points already. Should have 3-4 goals at least. Just hit the crossbar after beating Paterson.

Very impressive showing.
 

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Didn't he also play center tonight? If so, that goes to show he's a natural C.
 
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Why the move to center?
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Split up the skill to have at least one of your top 3 forwards facing terrible competition I guess. Nice to see he excelled there, probably helps his draft stock a small bit
 
TheOllieC

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Firstly, this is just based off the assumption that Hanifin/Strome go in some order 3/4 overall and Marner is there at #5 where Carolina picks, if they stay there.

Some people on the Canes board seem to shy away from Marner as an option solely because of his size and they feel that there is major risk in taking a player that is "small" but still tears up junior. See:

He reminds me of Tyler Ennis. So much fun to watch, but is it what you want in that spot? It's so tough to say which little guy will make it when so many fail. Point comparisons to guys like Tavares never make sense to me. Totally different games. Small and skilled guys tear up juniors. Doesn't mean they're gonna make it.
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My point not on Marmer being small isn't even that I doubt he's special. We need to make these picks count so taking a risk where we are at is a tough thing to swallow. Marmer is a risk. I'm not a size queen, I don't think being big for big's sake is the way at all, I think we need a good mix of players. We have a lot of small, some with skill, some without. We have big and slow. We don't have big, skilled and fast. You can get that where we are drafting. We need size and speed on the wing, badly. We also need a few top 4 d. This where we get those guys. If Marmer is truly gonna be just as good at this level so be it, but that's not an easy sell on anyone. I don't think he's truly exceptional, just really good. There's no way to know which little guy will make it.

I agree take the best player. I'm not convinced Marmer is.
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And skill-wise I get the Marner love, but he's TINY...not from a height perspective, from a body structure perspective. He doesn't look to have a frame to pack on the muscle, so I truly hope we shy away from him.
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I've seen a decent amount of Marner, and personally he strikes me as a player that isn't actually a big risk at all because of how smart he is. I don't know if people just see the electric skill he has, and just write him off as a "boom or bust" type of guy, but I assume that has to be the reasoning. I definitely think the whole size thing is overblown. Of course he needs to put on a bit of weight, but it's not like he's 5'8". Carolina has the Staals, Lindholm, Rask and others that have decent size and can play with an edge at times. I just cannot fathom passing on Marner for someone like Crouse or Rantanen, which has been suggested in our draft thread.

Again, I just don't think there's much risk in selecting Marner, he's versatile and he still obviously has huge upside. Am I off base here?

I included our draft thread below for those to see what I mean. (Pages 11-14)

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1820119&page=11
 

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You know my opinion. It seems crazy to me that anyone who has watched even a single full game of his wouldn't see his jaw-dropping potential.

He isn't picking on bad CHL D and goalies with gimmicky moves that won't translate. He puts up points because he is an absolute genius on the ice.
 

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You know my opinion. It seems crazy to me that anyone who has watched even a single full game of his wouldn't see his jaw-dropping potential.

He isn't picking on bad CHL D and goalies with gimmicky moves that won't translate. He puts up points because he is an absolute genius on the ice.
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I agree. I have him #3 right behind McEichel
 
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No offense, but if I had to choose any board for a scouting report on Marner I would choose the Leafs or Senators. Both fans are mainly compromised from that general area and have OHL exposure. These people are entitled to their own opinion, but Ennis as a comparison is terrible. There's a difference between being 5'11 and 5'8
 

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TheCLAM said:
No offense, but if I had to choose any board for a scouting report on Marner I would choose the Leafs or Senators. Both fans are mainly compromised from that general area and have OHL exposure. These people are entitled to their own opinion, but Ennis as a comparison is terrible. There's a difference between being 5'11 and 5'8
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i still think Seguin is the best comparison for him..
 
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LSP Wolfpack said:
You know my opinion. It seems crazy to me that anyone who has watched even a single full game of his wouldn't see his jaw-dropping potential.

He isn't picking on bad CHL D and goalies with gimmicky moves that won't translate. He puts up points because he is an absolute genius on the ice.
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I agree. Marner's smarts have stood out to me in every live viewing I've had. It ties his whole game together. His anticipation, ability to read the ice, and decision making are all top notch, IMO. His ability to find soft spots in coverage with his passes and his positioning is what makes him lethal.
 
1972

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TheCLAM said:
No offense, but if I had to choose any board for a scouting report on Marner I would choose the Leafs or Senators. Both fans are mainly compromised from that general area and have OHL exposure. These people are entitled to their own opinion, but Ennis as a comparison is terrible. There's a difference between being 5'11 and 5'8
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Ennis is like 5'-9.5" and Marner is around 5'-10.5".
 
Pi

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TheOllieC said:
Firstly, this is just based off the assumption that Hanifin/Strome go in some order 3/4 overall and Marner is there at #5 where Carolina picks, if they stay there.

Some people on the Canes board seem to shy away from Marner as an option solely because of his size and they feel that there is major risk in taking a player that is "small" but still tears up junior. See:








I've seen a decent amount of Marner, and personally he strikes me as a player that isn't actually a big risk at all because of how smart he is. I don't know if people just see the electric skill he has, and just write him off as a "boom or bust" type of guy, but I assume that has to be the reasoning. I definitely think the whole size thing is overblown. Of course he needs to put on a bit of weight, but it's not like he's 5'8". Carolina has the Staals, Lindholm, Rask and others that have decent size and can play with an edge at times. I just cannot fathom passing on Marner for someone like Crouse or Rantanen, which has been suggested in our draft thread.

Again, I just don't think there's much risk in selecting Marner, he's versatile and he still obviously has huge upside. Am I off base here?

I included our draft thread below for those to see what I mean. (Pages 11-14)

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1820119&page=11
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If Carolina finish 4th and don't draft one of Strome/Marner, they will regret it. Marner's size is no issue at all. The guy is constantly in and around the net and he can make beautiful passes in high traffic areas. He's the complete package. He's going to be a superstar.

I generally prefer size if talent is similar. Most Leaf fans want Strome but I'd much rather take Marner.
 
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