C Mitchell Marner - London Knights, OHL (2015 Draft)

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Think about how silly that statement is though...

If two people didn't exist the third one would go first. Great.

If 50 people didn't exist Justin Bailey was the top pick in 2013. Congrats to him.

I think it's more a comment on how great the talent is at the top of this draft. If Hanifin is as good as Jones, and Marner is a Kane clone, either one could be a 1st overall in a different draft year (ie a draft year where there aren't two supposed generational players).
 

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Think about how silly that statement is though...

If two people didn't exist the third one would go first. Great.

If 50 people didn't exist Justin Bailey was the top pick in 2013. Congrats to him.

It's to say marner may just be every bit as good as the likes of past draft prospects like hall, seguin, kane, etc.

Not often you get can't miss elite outside the top 2...this guy looks like he might be a great first overall in a good draft year.
 

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Big question. Is he in the NHL next year? Does the combo of his relatively small stature and good but not elite skating keep him in juniors for another year. I could see him not being totally ready but push his way onto the roster for Buffalo.
 

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Draft lists are irrelevant. I mean, I don't really want to pick on anyone in particular but I saw Demko in the top 10 only one spot behind Ekblad last year.

You can reference the site I run - DraftBuzz. Facts are not picking on. The final ranking I produced is competitive against other services and has already identified breakout players undervalued by other companies (Chartier, Dvorak, Labanc all top 60).

However, for the month of March on DraftBuzz, Ekblad was ranked 8th and Demko 10th. Fabbri was in between at 9.

From the Feb ranking to Mar ranking, Ekblad had 2G and 2A in 10GP. Combine that with the fact that I wasn't keen on his defensive ability, and that explains his dip. He drew a final rank of 5th, which many here are well aware of.

Demko was boasting a 9G win streak with 2 shutouts from mid-January to late-February, which was in the middle of the Feb and Mar ranking. In the 6GP specifically between rankings influencing the March ranking, he posted 4wins, 1loss, 1tie, .946SVS, and a shutout. As a true NCAA frosh goalie those results point to an elite, high first round grade prospect. But, over his last 6GP, he imploded with .871SVS and 3L. That inevitably forced a drop, where he landed 46th on the DraftBuzz final, and was drafted 36th.

Month to month lists are useful if you know the context with which they are created and how they shape the final ranking.

RE: Marner, think these lists will be key in penetrating the bias around him. DraftBuzz preliminary ranked 7th, no lower than 9th, and currently trending towards top 3. His OHL production speaks volumes about his potential and hope he gets his fair share of press across the board.

Can't keep seeing scouts and writers praise his play yet rank other subpar performers ahead of him.
 

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Big question. Is he in the NHL next year? Does the combo of his relatively small stature and good but not elite skating keep him in juniors for another year. I could see him not being totally ready but push his way onto the roster for Buffalo.
He's a bubble jumper, with Domi leaving, he'd have enough to prove to stay, but his skill level is NHL level. The question will be whether he is an injury risk.
 

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I'll believe it when I see it at the combine. He just doesn't look 6 foot on the ice IMO.

Someone who's 5'10.5 165 in the NHL is very undersized. And why I don't believe he is given proper draft ranking.

Draft counterparts McDavid and Eichel 6'0.5 190 and Eichel 6'2 195 have good hockey size.

no way mcdavid is 190 pounds
 
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Leafs might drop into a range where we could actually draft him!

If we get a top 5 pick he is there for me easy.

My rankings:

McDavid
Eichel
Hanifin (not based off personal viewings)
Marner
Strome
 

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I'd take him third overall and I'd leave him in the OHL next season. London has a lot of guys moving on. It'll be him and Dvorak carrying the team next season. I'd like to see how he performs with that weight on his shoulders. Plenty left to learn and improve on in the OHL. Look what an extra year has done for rounding out Max Domi's game.
 

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I think I'd let him play another year in the OHL as well. Don't think he needs Domi to torture other teams though.
 

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Anyone else think Marner may be a better prospect than Eichel?

Marner's PPG is considerably higher than Eichel's (2.03 vs 1.69) AND Marner plays in the OHL.

We all know from the McDavid vs. Eichel threat that the OHL is the better league. So that means Marner is better than Eichel too right?
 

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anyone else think marner may be a better prospect than eichel?

Marner's ppg is considerably higher than eichel's (2.03 vs 1.69) and marner plays in the ohl.

We all know from the mcdavid vs. Eichel threat that the ohl is the better league. So that means marner is better than eichel too right?
0/10
 

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Anyone else think Marner may be a better prospect than Eichel?

Marner's PPG is considerably higher than Eichel's (2.03 vs 1.69) AND Marner plays in the OHL.

We all know from the McDavid vs. Eichel threat that the OHL is the better league. So that means Marner is better than Eichel too right?

Heck no
 

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Anyone else think Marner may be a better prospect than Eichel?

Marner's PPG is considerably higher than Eichel's (2.03 vs 1.69) AND Marner plays in the OHL.

We all know from the McDavid vs. Eichel threat that the OHL is the better league. So that means Marner is better than Eichel too right?

You do realize it is harder for NCAA players to have a 1.69 PPG average than it is for an OHL player to have a 2.03 PPG average, right?
 

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You do realize it is harder for NCAA players to have a 1.69 PPG average than it is for an OHL player to have a 2.03 PPG average, right?
Kane & Gagner are the only players in the OHL in recent memory to post 2ppg

Tavares, Hall, Seguin, all below 2ppg


Eichel may beat Vanek's pace, but not by much. (http://assets1.sportsnet.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/eichel.jpg)

It's not that far off if you truly believe the OHL is a better league, which I do. More 1st and 2nd round picks come from the OHL compared to College Hockey.
 

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Kane & Gagner are the only players in the OHL in recent memory to post 2ppg

Tavares, Hall, Seguin, all below 2ppg


Eichel may beat Vanek's pace, but not by much. (http://assets1.sportsnet.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/eichel.jpg)

It's not that far off if you truly believe the OHL is a better league, which I do. More 1st and 2nd round picks come from the OHL compared to College Hockey.
That's certainly true but it has more to do with the fact that Canada does a better job of producing and developing high-end young talent than the States does and most top-end Canadian guys stay home. The quality of College hockey, across the board, is pretty equal to the CHL.
 

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I think Marner should pass by Hanifin (Werenski was better than im during the WJC) before the draft and being pick 3rd overall. It is fair?
 
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