C Mitchell Marner - London Knights, OHL (2015, 4th, TOR) IV

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they totally ripped Marner off there. Dvorak some how gets the assist on a play he wasn't involved in. It was Marner who spun off the D man and passed over the Mete who passed to Tkachuk for the goal.

That's what I saw too. It went Marner to Mete to Tkachuk and in. The play by play guys also mentioned it and said Marner has 5 points but the score sheet shows 4 still because they have not changed it yet. There's a chance they won't change it. It wouldn't be the first time I've seen the refs take an assist away from a guy and give a phantom one to someone else this season. Has happened in at least one Ranger game as well.
 

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That's what I saw too. It went Marner to Mete to Tkachuk and in. The play by play guys also mentioned it and said Marner has 5 points but the score sheet shows 4 still because they have not changed it yet. There's a chance they won't change it. It wouldn't be the first time I've seen the refs take an assist away from a guy and give a phantom one to someone else this season. Has happened in at least one Ranger game as well.

Though I don't doubt they've made the mistake before. But in this case it isn't about assists, yah marner lost his - but Tkachuk was straight up robbed of a goal and a phantom one was given to Dvorak for no reason. Once they fix that - it will lead to Marner getting his point back and Dvorak losing one.
 

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It was changed - they randomly took the goal from Ktachuk and gave it Dvorak - making Marner the 4th man out and without a point. It was directly related to them changing the goal. They'll change it back though.

Marner was never given an assist on that goal. So he couldn't have had anything taken away, that dude's tweet is saying he lost an assist and went from 3+2 to 3+1, he was always at 3+1.

He should get the assist but he never had it so he didn't get it taken away.

the scoring change they did went from Tkachuk from Mete and Dvorak to Dvorak from Tkachuk and Mete. They went from a wrong scoring play to a wronger scoring play, and Marner didn't have a point either of them(and he should have the 2nd assist)
 

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Dvorak obviously directed the puck in with his mind.
 

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how was that dvorak's goal? what am i missing here? it was tkachuk's from mete and marner, dvorak wasn't involved. are they actually not going to correct it?
That's what I saw too. It went Marner to Mete to Tkachuk and in. The play by play guys also mentioned it and said Marner has 5 points but the score sheet shows 4 still because they have not changed it yet. There's a chance they won't change it. It wouldn't be the first time I've seen the refs take an assist away from a guy and give a phantom one to someone else this season. Has happened in at least one Ranger game as well.
a phantom assist is one thing but a phantom goal for someone who didn't even have an assist on the play? that would be baffling.
 

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Marner was never given an assist on that goal. So he couldn't have had anything taken away, that dude's tweet is saying he lost an assist and went from 3+2 to 3+1, he was always at 3+1.

He should get the assist but he never had it so he didn't get it taken away.

This is right and wrong. True, on the online stat sheet we never saw Marner getting the second assist. But we did originally see Dvorak getting a phantom assist on the play - then that was changed into a wrongly credited goal to him.

Maybe this dude never saw the original part - but did notice the change to Dvoraks point, thus he said the change caused Marner to lose a point.

Anyways none of this matters, they'll fix it after the game if not before it ends, so we're just wasting our time talking about it.
 

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This is right and wrong. True, on the online stat sheet we never saw Marner getting the second assist. But we did originally see Dvorak getting a phantom assist on the play - then that was changed into a wrongly credited goal to him.

Maybe this dude never saw the original part - but did notice the change to Dvoraks point, thus he said the change caused Marner to lose a point.

Anyways none of this matters, they'll fix it after the game if not before it ends, so we're just wasting our time talking about it.

I know what happened, Marner should have an assist but doesn't.

The guys tweet was to say the original scoring play had Marner have a point but they corrected it to take it away, he never had a point to begin with, that's why his tweet is wrong.

the scoring change they did went from Tkachuk from Mete and Dvorak to Dvorak from Tkachuk and Mete. They went from a wrong scoring play to a wronger scoring play, and Marner didn't have a point either of them(and he should have the 2nd assist)

dude must have watched the play and assumed Marner got an assist and then later on the scoresheet saw he didn't and tweeted that but Marner was wrongfully never given an assist on that play so there wasn't a correction that took a point away from Marner, there was a "correction" that made it go from a wrong scoring play to a wronger one neither of which gave Marner a point, which is why Marner never lost a point.
 

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what is that guy talking about? He's only ever been credited with 3+1 though he should have a 2nd assist but that play hasn't been changed yet.

It could be the boxscore they get in house is different than what is being put on the OHL website...the OHL website shows the assists on the Sherwood goal as going to Jones and Pu...but on the broadcast, they showed the assists as going to Jones and Bouchard.

I know what happened, Marner should have an assist but doesn't.

The guys tweet was to say the original scoring play had Marner have a point but they corrected it to take it away, he never had a point to begin with, that's why his tweet is wrong.

the scoring change they did went from Tkachuk from Mete and Dvorak to Dvorak from Tkachuk and Mete. They went from a wrong scoring play to a wronger scoring play, and Marner didn't have a point either of them(and he should have the 2nd assist)

dude must have watched the play and assumed Marner got an assist and then later on the scoresheet saw he didn't and tweeted that but Marner was wrongfully never given an assist on that play so there wasn't a correction that took a point away from Marner, there was a "correction" that made it go from a wrong scoring play to a wronger one neither of which gave Marner a point, which is why Marner never lost a point.

I'm sure Marner's dad will be on it and ensure the point is given to the correct player.
 

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I know what happened, Marner should have an assist but doesn't.

The guys tweet was to say the original scoring play had Marner have a point but they corrected it to take it away, he never had a point to begin with, that's why his tweet is wrong.

the scoring change they did went from Tkachuk from Mete and Dvorak to Dvorak from Tkachuk and Mete. They went from a wrong scoring play to a wronger scoring play, and Marner didn't have a point either of them(and he should have the 2nd assist)

dude must have watched the play and assumed Marner got an assist and then later on the scoresheet saw he didn't and tweeted that but Marner was wrongfully never given an assist on that play so there wasn't a correction that took a point away from Marner, there was a "correction" that made it go from a wrong scoring play to a wronger one.

You just repeated back to me EXACTLY what I wrote. My only point was that the dude noticed a change in the stat sheet - all be it the wrong one - but still a change and was also aware Marner was without a point on the play even though he deserved one. So he probably assumed Marner had a point stripped - once he noticed the goal crediting swap.

I'm over discussing this though lol. We've wasted too many words on it already.
 

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You just repeated back to me EXACTLY what I wrote. My only point was that the dude noticed a change in the stat sheet - all be it the wrong one - but still a change and was also aware Marner was without a point on the play even though he deserved one. So he probably assumed Marner had a point stripped - once he noticed the goal crediting swap.

I'm over discussing this though lol. We've wasted too many words on it already.

yeah I know, we both know exactly what happened. You just said I was partly wrong when I wasn't, I was correcting the dude's tweet and his tweet was wrong because Marner never lost a point, he never had one on that goal. So I'm not sure where I was partly wrong in saying the guys tweet was wrong
 

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Well the important thing is the team won. Great job Marner !

Oops sorry I meant London

wow, people are talking about Marner in a Marner thread, color me shocked. Stop acting like this is the London Knights thread, people are going to talk about how Marner is playing in the Marner prospect thread :shakehead
 

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yeah I know, we both know exactly what happened. You just said I was partly wrong when I wasn't, I was correcting the dude's tweet and his tweet was wrong because Marner never lost a point, he never had one on that goal. So I'm not sure where I was partly wrong in saying the guys tweet was wrong

In this context yes you are correct I admit.

Separately, mentioned above, it is possible he was at the game and the home board said something entirely different from what we've seen online so maybe that was the source of his seemingly miss guided tweet. Different from the bone I was trying to throw him, but maybe also a viable reason.
 

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In this context yes you are correct I admit.

Separately, mentioned above, it is possible he was at the game and the home board said something entirely different from what we've seen online so maybe that was the source of his seemingly miss guided tweet. Different from the bone I was trying to throw him, but maybe also a viable reason.

You must have been looking for something else in that post when you originally said I was right and wrong then. Literally the only meaning for that post was me explaining why his tweet was wrong.

I wasn't concerning myself with how he may have been wrong, just the sheer fact that Marner never had a point on that goal so he couldn't lose anything, which is why I was confused when you told me I was right and wrong.
 

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Oh, we should be talking about Dvorak and Strome in a Marner thread, right?

Heaven forbid we actually talk about Marner in a Mitch Marner thread.

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I can't tell if you are joking on top of his joke or not lol.

In case you are serious - his post said "at least they won, good job Marner, oops I mean London." He was just saying Marner didn't win the game on his own, that London won it as a team.
 

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I can't tell if you are joking on top of his joke or not lol.

In case you are serious - his post said "at least they won, good job Marner, oops I mean London." He was just saying Marner didn't win the game on his own, that London won it as a team.

that's not what I took from that post at all. I read it as he was mocking all the people talking about just Marner as if it was all him. As if the London Marners won the game or something, like he expects us to be talking about how Dvorak and Tkachuk helped win the game in a Marner thread.

the other guy seemed to read it the same way.
 
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I can't tell if you are joking on top of his joke or not lol.

In case you are serious - his post said "at least they won, good job Marner, oops I mean London." He was just saying Marner didn't win the game on his own, that London won it as a team.

The :sarcasm: is known as the sarcasm face on HF for future reference.
 

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I can't tell if you are joking on top of his joke or not lol.

In case you are serious - his post said "at least they won, good job Marner, oops I mean London." He was just saying Marner didn't win the game on his own, that London won it as a team.

It's clearly a shot at everyone praising Marner. Besides, no one's acting like Marner won the game on his own. This is a Mitch Marner thread so we're obviously going to talk about him more than the collective team.
 

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It's clearly a shot at everyone praising Marner. Besides, no one's acting like Marner won the game on his own. This is a Mitch Marner thread so we're obviously going to talk about him more than the collective team.

Debatable that that was clearly a shot at Marner, although I was caught up in all the positivity so I read what he said as a good thing. Upon reading it again, I'd still be hesitant to call that a blatant shot at Marner. If taken in the context I read it in, he was making a joke about about us only seeing Marner do to how awesome he was and we forgot about the rest of the team so he threw them a little credit too.
 

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he was making a joke about about us only seeing Marner do to how awesome he was and we forgot about the rest of the team so he threw them a little credit too.

that's exactly how I read it, but when you consider this is a Marner thread it's a passive aggressive joke about how we're not giving anyone else any credit. Or in other words a shot at those talking about only Marner

And he looks stupid making said comment because why would we be talking about how good Dvorak or Tkachuk is in a Marner thread? Like I said, this isn't the London Knights thread, if you're looking for Dvorak and Tkachuk compliments he came to the wrong thread.
 

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Debatable that that was clearly a shot at Marner, although I was caught up in all the positivity so I read what he said as a good thing. Upon reading it again, I'd still be hesitant to call that a blatant shot at Marner. If taken in the context I read it in, he was making a joke about about us only seeing Marner do to how awesome he was and we forgot about the rest of the team so he threw them a little credit too.
of course it was. he's the coyotes fan who just bothered to post 'who cares?' in the mitch marner thread in response to discussion about an incorrectly attributed goal given to dvorak. his agenda is plain as day.

it's silly passive aggressive sarcasm complaining about the mitch marner thread having a focus on mitch marner rather than the knights as a whole.
 
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