C Michael McLeod (2016, 12th, NJD) Part II

[Jerzey Devil]

of course, you can look at who was the early cheerleader for Severson.

Nobody brags about who they've been wrong about.

 

[AfroThunder396]

The scouting report on Zacha that got parroted around here for a year was 100% polar opposite of the player he was in his rookie year.

Some people see what they want to see and make reality fit their expectations. I prefer data. McLeod is producing, period. New Jersey should be very excited about him, no amount of qualifiers will change what he's accomplished this season.

 

[Mathletic]

nature of the boards, either get frustrated by it or have fun with it. this isn't unique to this thread or the mikey haters, but HF is notorious for criticizing prospects to the point where they're breathing incorrectly. maybe criticism would be taken more seriously if it was offered in a realistic scope (i.e. giving credit where credit is due) as opposed to doubling down on it whenever a prospect does well

guess what worshippers do when their prospect does well? Call out people who criticized their favorite player. Just answering the call. Also pointing out that it's not all rosy. Take what you want from whatever conversation around here. No point in having everybody agreeing to everything.

 

[evnted]

Also pointing out that it's not all rosy.

going off your posts, it's a miracle mcleod has enough talent to get out of bed in the morning.

 

[Tretyak 20]

Yakupov is an excellent example of a player who didn't manage his speed in juniors. Always full speed all the time towards the other net. Worked in junior hockey. Not in pro hockey.

Yes, clearly if Yakupov didn't skate hard all the time he would be a better NHL player.

 

[Mathletic]

Nobody brags about who they've been wrong about.

and nobody comes back to tell you ended right in any debate.

On the whole, I'm quite happy with my record in the various debates we've had. I've rarely argued against certain players. The big cases for me were Paajarvii, Lazar and McCarron. Not to the extent they were busts but that they were vastly overrated by many. As another example, you can look past at the mocks we did on the Habs board.

2014

1st round, 20th overall - David Pastrňák, RW, Södertälje Sportklubb, HockeyAllsvenskan
2nd round, 51st overall - Jayce Hawryluk, C, Brandon Wheat Kings, Western Hockey League
3rd round, 81st overall - Lucas Wallmark, C, Luleå Hockeyförening, Svenska hockeyligan
4th round, 111th overall - Joe Hicketts, D, Victoria Royals, Western Hockey League
5th round, 141st overall - Tyler Bird, RW, Kimball Union Academy, New Hampshire
6th round, 157th overall - Arvid Lundberg, D, Skellefteå AIK, Svenska hockeyligan
6th round, 171st overall - Viktor Arvidsson, LW, Skellefteå AIK, Svenska hockeyligan
7th round, 201st overall - Marcus McIvor, D, North Bay Battalion, Ontario Hockey League


2015

#27 Jeremy Bracco, RW, USA NTDP
#80 Tyler Soy, C, Vitoria Royals, Western Hockey League
#82 Callum Booth, G, Remparts de Québec, LHJMQ
#149 Vladislav Gavrikov, D, Lokomotiv Yaroslavl, KHL
#179 Tyson Baillie, C/RW, Kelowna Rockets, Western Hockey League


2016

1st round, 3rd overall - Jesse Puljujärvi, RW, Kärpät Oulu, Liiga
2nd round, 34th overall - Tyler Benson, LW, Vancouver Giants, Western Hockey League
3rd round, 64th overall - Casey Fitzgerald, D, Boston College, Hockey East (NCAA)
6th round, 154th overall - Veini Vehviläinen, G, Jyväskylän Palloilijat, Liiga
7th round, 184th overall - Fredrik Karlström, C, Allmänna Idrottsklubben (AIK), Allsvenskan

going off your posts, it's a miracle mcleod has enough talent to get out of bed in the morning.

sure is.

Surprised he hasn't cured cancer judging by other posts.

 

[VoidCreature]

and nobody comes back to tell you ended right in any debate.

On the whole, I'm quite happy with my record in the various debates we've had. I've rarely argued against certain players. The big cases for me were Paajarvii, Lazar and McCarron. Not to the extent they were busts but that they were vastly overrated by many. As another example, you can look past at the mocks we did on the Habs board.

2014

1st round, 20th overall - David Pastrňák, RW, Södertälje Sportklubb, HockeyAllsvenskan
2nd round, 51st overall - Jayce Hawryluk, C, Brandon Wheat Kings, Western Hockey League
3rd round, 81st overall - Lucas Wallmark, C, Luleå Hockeyförening, Svenska hockeyligan
4th round, 111th overall - Joe Hicketts, D, Victoria Royals, Western Hockey League
5th round, 141st overall - Tyler Bird, RW, Kimball Union Academy, New Hampshire
6th round, 157th overall - Arvid Lundberg, D, Skellefteå AIK, Svenska hockeyligan
6th round, 171st overall - Viktor Arvidsson, LW, Skellefteå AIK, Svenska hockeyligan
7th round, 201st overall - Marcus McIvor, D, North Bay Battalion, Ontario Hockey League


2015

#27 Jeremy Bracco, RW, USA NTDP
#80 Tyler Soy, C, Vitoria Royals, Western Hockey League
#82 Callum Booth, G, Remparts de Québec, LHJMQ
#149 Vladislav Gavrikov, D, Lokomotiv Yaroslavl, KHL
#179 Tyson Baillie, C/RW, Kelowna Rockets, Western Hockey League


2016

1st round, 3rd overall - Jesse Puljujärvi, RW, Kärpät Oulu, Liiga
2nd round, 34th overall - Tyler Benson, LW, Vancouver Giants, Western Hockey League
3rd round, 64th overall - Casey Fitzgerald, D, Boston College, Hockey East (NCAA)
6th round, 154th overall - Veini Vehviläinen, G, Jyväskylän Palloilijat, Liiga
7th round, 184th overall - Fredrik Karlström, C, Allmänna Idrottsklubben (AIK), Allsvenskan



sure is.

Surprised he hasn't cured cancer judging by other posts.

What are you, a trial lawyer? This is getting very silly.

 

[evnted]

Surprised he hasn't cured cancer judging by other posts.

that's because he only can take on weak, benign OHL level tumors. his treatments wont translate to the NHL level

 

[Cheddabombs]

This thread is just sad now

The kid is having such a fantastic run and everyone in here is just fighting over petty ****

 

[EnglishDevil]

This thread is just sad now

The kid is having such a fantastic run and everyone in here is just fighting over petty ****

He's just amassing points against terrible opposition. I know it's the OHL semi-finals and the Petes swept their first two series, but take my word for it they're terrible, the fact he only managed a 4 point night is just sad

 

[Emperoreddy]

This thread is just sad now

The kid is having such a fantastic run and everyone in here is just fighting over petty ****

I don't get it. No one is arguing to put him as first overall in a redraft. He isnt Matthews.

He is playing really well and looks like a great pick at 12 and maybe he should be moved up a spot or two in a redraft.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

Having the opinion that McLeod's game won't translate to the NHL is fine. Constantly reinforcing it is the problem. Just sit back and see what happens at this point. Hell even the Flyers fans have backed off.

 

[Mathletic]

Having the opinion that McLeod's game won't translate to the NHL is fine. Constantly reinforcing it is the problem. Just sit back and see what happens at this point. Hell even the Flyers fans have backed off.

I just answer the bell when people call me out.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Did you seriously just post a list of every player you called overrated and feel you were right about? Like this is a thing that happened?

 

[Scorcho]

i like his game tho

 

[Feed Me A Stray Cat]

I'm surprised McLeod is doing this well in the playoffs, because I thought he only put up points against bad teams.

 

[goonybird]

McLeod is bad because of things that haven't happened yet.

We've got a time traveller boys!

 

[AfroThunder396]

I'm surprised McLeod is doing this well in the playoffs, because I thought he only put up points against bad teams.

Joke's on you, every team in the OHL is bad except Mississauga who is a powerhouse and could turn guys off the street into 2.5 PPG players.

 

[BomaLightDevils]

I just answer the bell when people call me out.

I think the real reason why you keep shooting McLeod down is that your own team could have drafted him and didn't and now you justifying that by knocking him down.

I keep this short because it belongs in a different thread but talk about a player who I think will have trouble translating he's junior game to the pro's would be who Mtl picked in sergachev! Showed No defensive awernes progression this year and do you still think he can take the puck end to end on every shift like he does in the ohl? Yes he has a slap shot but you can't survive on that. He need to show some glimpse on why he was picked in the top 10.

 

[135ace]

I think the real reason why you keep shooting McLeod down is that your own team could have drafted him and didn't and now you justifying that by knocking him down.

I keep this short because it belongs in a different thread but talk about a player who I think will have trouble translating he's junior game to the pro's would be who Mtl picked in sergachev! Showed No defensive awernes progression this year and do you still think he can take the puck end to end on every shift like he does in the ohl? Yes he has a slap shot but you can't survive on that. He need to show some glimpse on why he was picked in the top 10.

You've probably hit the nail on the head here. As a Devils fan I'm sour on the Mclead pick, not because I dislike Mcleod, but because I thought we should be picking higher, ending up with at least a Tkachuk or Keller. For picking 12th Mcleod was about as good as we could get-he's done about everything you could ask in his draft year+1 and would certainly move up at least a couple picks in a redraft.

 

[goonybird]

Sergachev looks fine, don't fall into the trap of comparing other teams' prospects.

 

[Mathletic]

I think the real reason why you keep shooting McLeod down is that your own team could have drafted him and didn't and now you justifying that by knocking him down.

I keep this short because it belongs in a different thread but talk about a player who I think will have trouble translating he's junior game to the pro's would be who Mtl picked in sergachev! Showed No defensive awernes progression this year and do you still think he can take the puck end to end on every shift like he does in the ohl? Yes he has a slap shot but you can't survive on that. He need to show some glimpse on why he was picked in the top 10.

Ok? Couldn't be farther from the truth. For me it was anyone but McLeod, basically. I was scared they were going to pick him as McCagg was so high on him, and in recent years, the player he was high on turned out to be the Habs pick.

Go on the Habs board. There have been many occasions where I was critical of their selections. I can think of the '13 draft in particular. I was very critical of the McCarron and De La Rose selections. DLR, btw, another big bodied, good skater with hustle whose game was going to translate so well at the next level. Or when they picked Thrower over Severson.

Besides, I'm quite happy with the Sergachev selection. I'd make that pick 10/10 over McLeod. Not that this has anything to do with that thread anyways. I explained why I have doubts over McLeod translating to the next level. Do what you want with it. I simply pointed out facts and explained my reasoning. People turned it into a joke. Not my problem if it ended up poluting the thread.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Why is this clown stinking up this thread? McLeod is having a sensational playoffs to top off a good year.

 

[Mathletic]

Why is this clown stinking up this thread? McLeod is having a sensational playoffs to top off a good year.

Simply answering posts addressed to me.

 

[goonybird]

Why is this clown stinking up this thread? McLeod is having a sensational playoffs to top off a good year.

No he's not. He's only 2nd in scoring.