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C Mason McTavish - Peterborough Petes, OHL (2021, 3rd, ANA)

Anyone who has watched him from his first game in Anaheim and then saw him in these team Canada games would say they are seeing a young man who is improving at a pretty nice pace. How often have we seen prospects not take the demotions well, also I haven't heard much about his work ethic being something that would hold him back people were making more claims about his skill and talent level not being very high
 
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Goose of Reason said:
Huh? When has effort been an issue for McTavish? The guy plays hard and has done nothing but put big work into all of the parts of his game that have needed work, where is all of this coming from?
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The guy who watches the games.

You waiting for it to show up in the THN Yearbook or some 'official' source.
 
bsu said:
Just someone starting a fake narrative
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Yeah, the guy who was watching him in person and cheering for his team LONG before you ever heard of him is starting a fake narrative because he has a long-term hate for the....Ducks????

Ok bud.
 
BruinsBtn said:
The guy who watches the games.

You waiting for it to show up in the THN Yearbook or some 'official' source.
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Well, do you have receipts on your own findings? Do you have some evidence to back up his effort levels, clips of him dogging it? If you're going to make bold claims that go against everything the "THN Yearbook and official sources" say, bring your receipts.
 
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gilfaizon said:
Well, do you have receipts on your own findings? Do you have some evidence to back up his effort levels, clips of him dogging it? If you're going to make bold claims that go against everything the "THN Yearbook and official sources" say, bring your receipts.
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He's right that he was in this thread praising McTavish long before most of us.
I don't really agree with him but I've also noticed McTavish being way more fancy when playing kids. I'm not sure that's necessarily a bad thing though. I think the Ducks sent him back to do exactly that. May look a bit casual at times and maybe he's bored playing kids but I've seen nothing that would make me question his effort level going forward.
 
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It wouldn't surprise me at all if McTavish plays somewhat bored at the junior level, he wouldn't be the first physically developed prospect to play that way against kids. I don't really see it as an issue though, because he will rarely find himself in that same situation in the NHL.

Some players want/need adversity to be engaged. I don't think that will be a problem at the highest level.
 
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gilfaizon said:
Well, do you have receipts on your own findings? Do you have some evidence to back up his effort levels, clips of him dogging it? If you're going to make bold claims that go against everything the "THN Yearbook and official sources" say, bring your receipts.
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Yeah, let me spend my holidays editing clips to impress 'gilfaizon' because I give AF what he thinks.

Click on the first page of this thread and see who has been watching this guy! I was touting him as a top player in the draft and getting mocked for it. There's your receipts!
 
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McTavish has been a lot better this season than I expected. I think he’s also just improved. Sometimes that’s part of the equation more than we believe.

I think the Ducks have some great building blocks for the future. But it can go wrong. Talent isn’t everything. Coaching/GM is the weakness with that team’s future, in my opinion.
 
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Pavel Buchnevich said:
McTavish has been a lot better this season than I expected. I think he’s also just improved. Sometimes that’s part of the equation more than we believe.

I think the Ducks have some great building blocks for the future. But it can go wrong. Talent isn’t everything. Coaching/GM is the weakness with that team’s future, in my opinion.
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Sure things can go very wrong and there's a long way aheadd. But we don't even know who our GM will be, lol
And coaching has been very good, in my opinion. Previous years we had super inexperienced assistants and it showed very well. This year we upgraded and hey hey, who could have thought we're better :laugh:

For the Ducks it's crucial to see if/who we will resign and how we can continue to build up the system depth. Currently short on D and maybe even goal (Dostal seems to have a down year).


But as for McTavish, it sucks that next year it's OHL or NHL for him. I think he could really benefit from an AHL stint, even moreso than Perreault
 
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Pavel Buchnevich said:
McTavish has been a lot better this season than I expected. I think he’s also just improved. Sometimes that’s part of the equation more than we believe.

I think the Ducks have some great building blocks for the future. But it can go wrong. Talent isn’t everything. Coaching/GM is the weakness with that team’s future, in my opinion.
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I feel like coaching and gm is a weakness In most franchises…. We don’t have a GM…. I think Eakins is a lot better than he gets credit for and I think he is the right coach for the team now…. May change once team takes next step.

I think we have a lot of good leaders/characters amongst our young guys…. And guys like lindholm and Fowler set a good example for them
 
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Kalv said:
Sure things can go very wrong and there's a long way aheadd. But we don't even know who our GM will be, lol
And coaching has been very good, in my opinion. Previous years we had super inexperienced assistants and it showed very well. This year we upgraded and hey hey, who could have thought we're better :laugh:

For the Ducks it's crucial to see if/who we will resign and how we can continue to build up the system depth. Currently short on D and maybe even goal (Dostal seems to have a down year).


But as for McTavish, it sucks that next year it's OHL or NHL for him. I think he could really benefit from an AHL stint, even moreso than Perreault
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I think he will do just fine next year in the NHL because he has attributes that help the team even if he isn't hounding the puck like physicality, a net front presence, legit shot, explosiveness. He is a guy that could contribute on a 3rd line and make our team better which helps with his confidence. That's just where I see his game longer term compared to a guy like zegras that needs to be developing with the puck on his stick. He just needs to keep developing this year so he is ready next year.
 
Trojans86 said:
I think he will do just fine next year in the NHL because he has attributes that help the team even if he isn't hounding the puck like physicality, a net front presence, legit shot, explosiveness. He is a guy that could contribute on a 3rd line and make our team better which helps with his confidence. That's just where I see his game longer term compared to a guy like zegras that needs to be developing with the puck on his stick. He just needs to keep developing this year so he is ready next year.
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My thought process is rather that since so much of McTavish's game is built around strenght, he will not be ready to compete with that in the NHL still, most likely. However, NHL schedule would take away his time to keep building it, so not sure at all if that's an ideal situation. If Getz and Perry weren't ruined by 2 years in the CHL I think McTavish would be ok as well.

On the other hand, in the NHL he could still learn how to be better around the net (sneaky like Perry?), win board battles in other ways, etc. So shouldn't be an end of the World anyways.
 
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I feel like the real litmus test for Martin Madden was this guy. I think everyone saw the talent with guys like Zegras and Drysdale. If their development was handled right, they’d succeed. A lot doubted the pick of McTavish. But Madden was right and a lot of us were wrong.

If I’m the Ducks, I make sure I keep Madden around. Give him the role or contract he wants. If I’m other teams, I’m trying to sign Madden. If you are the Leafs, Habs, or Rangers, why not offer him a blank check and test the Ducks resolve to keep him around?
 
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Pavel Buchnevich said:
I feel like the real litmus test for Martin Madden was this guy. I think everyone saw the talent with guys like Zegras and Drysdale. If their development was handled right, they’d succeed. A lot doubted the pick of McTavish. But Madden was right and a lot of us were wrong.

If I’m the Ducks, I make sure I keep Madden around. Give him the role or contract he wants. If I’m other teams, I’m trying to sign Madden. If you are the Leafs, Habs, or Rangers, why not offer him a blank check and test the Ducks resolve to keep him around?
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I (and I believe other Ducks fans as well) wonder how much of this was Bob's decision to take McTavish - it's just Murrays prototypical player :laugh: But Madden surely had some say in it as well.
And yeah, it has been a worry for us for some time to keep Madden. Some think that he might be a cnadidate for the vacant GM position. Personally I have no idea if that would be good idea, because he might not be close to drafting anymore and take on an absolutely new role. But we'll see how things play out.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
I feel like the real litmus test for Martin Madden was this guy. I think everyone saw the talent with guys like Zegras and Drysdale. If their development was handled right, they’d succeed. A lot doubted the pick of McTavish. But Madden was right and a lot of us were wrong.

If I’m the Ducks, I make sure I keep Madden around. Give him the role or contract he wants. If I’m other teams, I’m trying to sign Madden. If you are the Leafs, Habs, or Rangers, why not offer him a blank check and test the Ducks resolve to keep him around?
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McTavish could be an ECHL player and it wouldn’t change my opinion of Madden at all. The guy has over 10 years of probably the best drafting in the NHL.

Anyone can get lucky with one pick, but consistency over 10 years is insane.
 
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Pavel Buchnevich said:
I feel like the real litmus test for Martin Madden was this guy. I think everyone saw the talent with guys like Zegras and Drysdale. If their development was handled right, they’d succeed. A lot doubted the pick of McTavish. But Madden was right and a lot of us were wrong.

If I’m the Ducks, I make sure I keep Madden around. Give him the role or contract he wants. If I’m other teams, I’m trying to sign Madden. If you are the Leafs, Habs, or Rangers, why not offer him a blank check and test the Ducks resolve to keep him around?
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Madden's bilingual as well so he has to be doubly appetizing for Montreal. Sounds like the perfect guy to pair with Gorton.
 



He's back 6 goals in 5 games.
 
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Since leaving the NHL he has 5 points (3 goals 2 assists) in 2 games at WJC, and 7 goals in 6 games at junior level.
 
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