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yeah if yakupov had anything it was his shot and skating. he was a fantastic skater.
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I'm an Oilers fan, ask any of my fellow Oiler fans what they think of Yakupov's skating. He had good acceleration but that was it. And no that wasn't the main reason why he failed in the NHL, it was his below-average hockey IQ and unwillingness to work on his weaknesses (which included his skating too).
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I think it is Ray Ferraro that described him as like a chicken with his head cutoff. Yakupov could skate, but he didn't understand how to get away from people or when to use it most of the time. He would uncover and then recover himself in zone a ton. He would puck watch instead of moving his feet both offensively and defensively a lot. His skating wasn't brutal by any stretch, but it wasn't very functional either because he used it so rarely to his advantage, he overran plays and coverage assignments more often than pressuring the other team with it. Good first couple of steps, if Rossi had just his first few strides that would be important, they probably have similar top end speed which is average in my opinion. Hard to say, you so rarely saw Yakupov free flowing outside of the junior level, because he was struggling to think the game when the pace went up in my opinion.
Rossi certainly understands where to be and the effort required, that isn't a fault I find in his game. Will he get there and how effective will he be at the pro level, well that is the big question...
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Interesting backtracking. You clearly have a problem with people who disagree with you as you fend off their opinions as nothing but armchair scouts, implying that their opinions and criticism of Rossi is unwarranted. I then showed you they're not alone and now you're saying "we're having a discussion". It's not a discussion if you consider someone elses opinion pure nonsense and unworthy of acknowledgement.
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He literally listed a professional scout for an NHL team who shares the same concerns about Rossi. He's not on an island with that take. I mean even Pronman shares that perception:
"I would say he lacks truly dangerous NHL-level rink-length speed to pull away from guys or turn the corner on NHL defensemen.
His skating won’t hold him back from becoming a good NHL player, but if you ask why I don’t think such a highly skilled, intelligent, competitive and productive player is a no doubt star, it would be because of his skating"
If you picked players on 'who is best now', Rossi would be in my top 3 perhaps. If you pick a player who projects to make the most impact at the NHL level, I join in with the rather large portion who believe he's going to struggle because of that exact reason and top out in the middle 6.
It's a not a nitpick when the thing being analyzed is a foundational part of the game. If the majority of top prospects with first step and acceleration issues overcame them, it wouldn't be an issue. The majority of players with that specific issue have not managed to overcome it, Rossi doing so would be the exception not the rule.
Numbers aren't everything. If so, Dach wouldn't have been a top pick last year. Dach is a great example of analyzing the player and not the stats. Rossi played on a great team, in a year with lots of record stats with a style that doesn't translate well to the NHL.
Questioning isn't bad.
I'm just curious. Were these all the quotes or were there other quotes and if possible could we see them?
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There's more, but I'm not going to post all of them. You'll have to buy the product.
The scouts are just as split on him as people in here. A lot of them love him, but a decent number of them have grave concerns too as illustrated in my previous post.
Yes, he went to Sweden for his draft year.
Rossi actually played in Switzerland since he was a kid, and Austria is more of a hockey hotbed than Slovenia in the 90's and early 2000s
Nic Petan, honestly, I can't tell you a lot about him, but I don't think his results were nearly as impressive. I also don't think he as ever thought of as such a great talent, as you said, he was on a good team with great linemates including defensemen and he is actually smaller than Rossi. You can always find some bust that fits very approximate descriprion of a certain top prospect. Is Lafreniere new Daigle is Byfield new Svitov?
Petan didn't had a great D-1 season, nor did he had a pretty good season in NLB as 16 y.o
Yes, his hockey IQ is not great, thats the main problem. Sometimes it looks like he doesn't know what to do on the ice.
I stated what I believe in. I don't have problems with people having opinions. You may say I was impolite i guess, I just stated an issue.
Correct. Rossi came from Switzerland, and he's been playing there since he was a very young child. His family has always gone to great lengths to ensure that he's always had the best in hockey training and development.
I think they are the same size.
The 16 yo NLB season was a long story...
Petean is lighter now, and definately was way lighter in 2013. As for height, Petan is 175 cm officially, Rossi is 176 now, as a 18 y.o
Anyway, not a huge difference, but still
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If Rossi puts up numbers like Yak did in his rookie season, people will be over the moon. Yak had 17 goals and 31 points in 48 games. What did Jack Hughes just put up in his rookie season? Yak was actually pretty good as a rookie. The only guy in this draft who might put up points like Yak as a rookie might be Lafreniere.
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This thread will be hilarious to come back to in a couple years.
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Whens he’s a star 1C
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High expectations, not ones hes likely to fulfil. You'll be waiting a long time to be able to check back
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After his third two hundred point season.
Well honestly, hewill be e very very good NHLer most likely a top 6 Center, which definitely justifies drafting him top 5 atoat least top 10.
He knows his weak spots very well and is working like hell to improve. So his downside is very high, his ceiling probably lower than those a few other guys in this draft.
I'm getting some Lias Andersson wibes from Rossi. What would you say are the main differences between Rossi in 2020 and Andersson in 2017?
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