C Marco Rossi - Ottawa 67’s, OHL (2020 Draft)

[bsu]

I'm getting some Lias Andersson wibes from Rossi. What would you say are the main differences between Rossi in 2020 and Andersson in 2017?

Nice nickname.

 

[Tkachuckycheese]

I'm getting some Lias Andersson wibes from Rossi. What would you say are the main differences between Rossi in 2020 and Andersson in 2017?

absolutely nothing. You are probably the only person to even remotely come to this conclusion

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

When Rossi is a pretty good 2C?

If Rossi is a pretty good 2C in a couple years, I think that's a win for whoever drafts him. As a Wings fan, I'd happily take a pretty good 2C at #4.

Outside of the top 3, I don't think you're looking at many guys with the potential to be way more impactful than a 2C. I think Drysdale has top-pairing potential, which is why I'd probably give him the edge. I think Perfetti/Holtz/Raymond have 1W ceilings, so I have them pretty neck and neck with Rossi. Askarov is a wildcard and goalies don't make any sense to me so idk how to evaluate there.

But to the point- if a team gets a competitive, two-way 2C out of Marco Rossi, I think that's a great pick anywhere outside the top 3. 2C's are very valuable, and drafts are never the elite talent piñatas that people expect them to be.

 

[kabidjan18]

I'm getting some Lias Andersson wibes from Rossi. What would you say are the main differences between Rossi in 2020 and Andersson in 2017?

I don't think it's a crazy comparison at all. But Marco's hockey IQ is better by a very strong margin.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I'm getting some Lias Andersson wibes from Rossi. What would you say are the main differences between Rossi in 2020 and Andersson in 2017?

Rossi is a much better playmaker with a lot more hockey skill. He also is a better skater, although neither are particularly fast. Andersson is a few inches taller.

 

[Random Comment]

If Rossi is a pretty good 2C in a couple years, I think that's a win for whoever drafts him. As a Wings fan, I'd happily take a pretty good 2C at #4.

Outside of the top 3, I don't think you're looking at many guys with the potential to be way more impactful than a 2C. I think Drysdale has top-pairing potential, which is why I'd probably give him the edge. I think Perfetti/Holtz/Raymond have 1W ceilings, so I have them pretty neck and neck with Rossi. Askarov is a wildcard and goalies don't make any sense to me so idk how to evaluate there.

But to the point- if a team gets a competitive, two-way 2C out of Marco Rossi, I think that's a great pick anywhere outside the top 3. 2C's are very valuable, and drafts are never the elite talent piñatas that people expect them to be.

100% agree. Wasn’t meant to be a knock on Rossi. Most teams don’t have a good 2C.

 

[KovalSNIPE]

Rossi reminds me of Crosby in a lot of ways.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

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[Random Comment]

Rossi reminds me of Crosby in a lot of ways.

I guess they have a similar style. Colin White reminds me of Patrice Bergeron in a lot of ways too

 

[absolute garbage]

I don't think it's a crazy comparison at all. But Marco's hockey IQ is better by a very strong margin.

Rossi is a much better playmaker with a lot more hockey skill. He also is a better skater, although neither are particularly fast. Andersson is a few inches taller.

Thanks for actual answers.

It's always funny how people get triggered and go "how dare you?!" when you compare a hyped prospect now to a hyped prospect 3 years ago who has since busted. Like, Andersson was a 7th overall pick, in the same range Rossi is predicted to go. He was hyped a lot and was considered a can't-miss prospect. Had some of the same question marks that Rossi has regarding skating and offensive upside.

Don't think it's an outlandish comparison at all, but yes I can see the differences you mentioned.

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

If Rossi is a pretty good 2C in a couple years, I think that's a win for whoever drafts him. As a Wings fan, I'd happily take a pretty good 2C at #4.

Outside of the top 3, I don't think you're looking at many guys with the potential to be way more impactful than a 2C. I think Drysdale has top-pairing potential, which is why I'd probably give him the edge. I think Perfetti/Holtz/Raymond have 1W ceilings, so I have them pretty neck and neck with Rossi. Askarov is a wildcard and goalies don't make any sense to me so idk how to evaluate there.

But to the point- if a team gets a competitive, two-way 2C out of Marco Rossi, I think that's a great pick anywhere outside the top 3. 2C's are very valuable, and drafts are never the elite talent piñatas that people expect them to be.

I very much agree with all of this (especially the bolded). What you didn't do, however, is assess the actual likelihood of Rossi becoming a true number 2 center, which to me is the crux of it all. I am very bearish on him playing center in the NHL long term, but even I will admit there is some chance that he manages to stick in that role. This begs the question that if you view him as a wing, where do you rank him against Perfetti, Holtz and Raymond?

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

I very much agree with all of this (especially the bolded). What you didn't do, however, is assess the actual likelihood of Rossi becoming a true number 2 center, which to me is the crux of it all.

Absolutely. To clarify, I was addressing another user's hypothetical, where Rossi is a "pretty good 2C" in a few years. If that's the case, you've made a good pick in my opinion. How likely he is to hit that is a separate issue. My thoughts on that are scattered between this thread and the Red Wings' threads, so I won't take up too much thread space.

Generally speaking I'm a believer in Rossi, although I recognize the legitimacy of his criticisms.

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

Absolutely. To clarify, I was addressing another user's hypothetical, where Rossi is a "pretty good 2C" in a few years. If that's the case, you've made a good pick in my opinion. How likely he is to hit that is a separate issue. My thoughts on that are scattered between this thread and the Red Wings' threads, so I won't take up too much thread space.

Generally speaking I'm a believer in Rossi, although I recognize the legitimacy of his criticisms.

I too would be happy with a good number two center at 4 OA.

 

[Doanator]

Ein besonderer Trainingsgast

Wings jersey would suit him also well i guess

 

[bsu]

Ducks will be so lucky if he drops to #6

 

[JiricekSaveUs]

Ducks will be so lucky if he drops to #6

Ducks gonna pass on him and He’s dropping to 9 and the MN is gonna pass on him and then the jets will get him at 10

 

[Nicomo Cosca]

If Rossi is a pretty good 2C in a couple years, I think that's a win for whoever drafts him. As a Wings fan, I'd happily take a pretty good 2C at #4.

Outside of the top 3, I don't think you're looking at many guys with the potential to be way more impactful than a 2C. I think Drysdale has top-pairing potential, which is why I'd probably give him the edge. I think Perfetti/Holtz/Raymond have 1W ceilings, so I have them pretty neck and neck with Rossi. Askarov is a wildcard and goalies don't make any sense to me so idk how to evaluate there.

But to the point- if a team gets a competitive, two-way 2C out of Marco Rossi, I think that's a great pick anywhere outside the top 3. 2C's are very valuable, and drafts are never the elite talent piñatas that people expect them to be.

Sanderson has top pairing potential.

 

[ViewsFromThe6ix]

Sanderson has top pairing potential.

Doesn't have the IQ to have top pair potential IMO. Said it before the Leafs even had a pick in the top 15, but this draft is a little overrated when people talk about how deep it is. Completely agree with the statement that after the top 3, don't see much more than 2nd line, 2nd pair potential.

 

[JiricekSaveUs]

Doesn't have the IQ to have top pair potential IMO. Said it before the Leafs even had a pick in the top 15, but this draft is a little overrated when people talk about how deep it is. Completely agree with the statement that after the top 3, don't see much more than 2nd line, 2nd pair potential.

It’s top heavy, not deep. Just comparing the prospects at the top of the draft’s draft seasons with previous years, you can see this draft has a fair amount of players at the top with potential to be top line guys. It’s hard for me to see an argument that, given the players’ bodies of work to this point, Raymond, Holtz, Perfetti, Rossi and a Drysdale don’t have top line/top pair potential.

 

[LarKing]

Doesn't have the IQ to have top pair potential IMO. Said it before the Leafs even had a pick in the top 15, but this draft is a little overrated when people talk about how deep it is. Completely agree with the statement that after the top 3, don't see much more than 2nd line, 2nd pair potential.

If none of Perfetti, Rossi, Raymond, Drysdale end up first liners/top pair I’d be genuinely shocked. I see at least half making it.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

If none of Perfetti, Rossi, Raymond, Drysdale end up first liners/top pair I’d be genuinely shocked. I see at least half making it.

I think 3 of the 4 are sure bets to be NHLers, and at least Perfetti and Rossi will be 2nd liners at worst. I'm not as high on Drysdale as others on this forum, and Lucas Raymond is a wild card that could become Martin Erat, or he could become a Swedish Mitch Marner.

 

[bsu]

Doesn't have the IQ to have top pair potential IMO. Said it before the Leafs even had a pick in the top 15, but this draft is a little overrated when people talk about how deep it is. Completely agree with the statement that after the top 3, don't see much more than 2nd line, 2nd pair potential.

One of his biggest strengths is his IQ, weird post. He is really good defensively and has potential offensively, Slavin/Lindholm type of player.

 

[JiricekSaveUs]

 

[Zaddy]

Thanks for actual answers.

It's always funny how people get triggered and go "how dare you?!" when you compare a hyped prospect now to a hyped prospect 3 years ago who has since busted. Like, Andersson was a 7th overall pick, in the same range Rossi is predicted to go. He was hyped a lot and was considered a can't-miss prospect. Had some of the same question marks that Rossi has regarding skating and offensive upside.

Don't think it's an outlandish comparison at all, but yes I can see the differences you mentioned.

I remember when I compared Puljujärvi to Pääjärvi in his draft year. Everyone was like "how dare you?" to me as well. People think these guys can't bust but they do.

 

[Tetsuo]

I remember when I compared Puljujärvi to Pääjärvi in his draft year. Everyone was like "how dare you?" to me as well. People think these guys can't bust but they do.

I know this maybe a hot take but I see Rossi to more likely be viewed as a bust than almost any of the other top rated guys. It's not that I think he will be a bad player but honestly his ceiling might not be nearly as high as people are projecting, which means he could be perceived as disappointing.