C Marco Rossi - Ottawa 67’s, OHL (2020 Draft)

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I hope not, if the sens leave the top 5 without having two of (Byfield, Stutzle, Drysdale, and Raymond) they screwed up.

You like Raymond (Safe pick) or Drysdale (Best Dman)
Some like Rossi (Oozes skill)
Some like Perfetti (IQ off the charts)
Some like Holtz (great goal scorer)

There's 8 guys in that discussion IMO. One of Stutzle/Byfield, and one of 6 others vying for that 5th pick. Not much separates 4-8 according to most scouts. I have my preferences but I won't be mad as long as we get someone I mentioned at 5.
 
Whats a blue chipper in your estimation?
I'd say a blue-chip prospect is something very close to a sure thing, but it is generally used much looser than that around here. As we've seen outside the tier behind McDavid this decade of center prospects like Matthews, Eichel, MacKinnon, and Seguin is probably that next tier of sure things (and before that Stamkos and JT). Now, some hit very high highs like Draisaitl, Barkov (Barkov arguably belongs in the first grouping, but it should be remembered he was viewed closer to Monahan and Lindholm by most at the time of his draft) and Pettersson in that next grouping (just speaking as prospects), but you also get your fair share who end up good players but not the #1 center you expect of high-end prospects (Sam Reinhart, Dylan Strome), some who are productive NHLers but are quite replaceable players (S. Bennett), others who are highly inconsistent (R. Strome, Galchenyuk) and others who are high-end but move positions (Huberdeau and to a lesser extent Lindholm), finally, you got guys like Monahan, PLD, and Hischier who are currently their teams #1 center, but might not be the ideal top 15 center in the league you hope for when drafting high (Hischier and PLD still have time to reach that on a consistent basis, but it remains to be seen what they are).

I'm not sure any of the centers in this draft are locked-in to be elite players like that tier behind McDavid I mentioned. Byfield could reach their level, but has more risk attached in my eyes. Blue-chip by definition is something with very limited risk, but like a lot of terms around here, things get bumped up all the time (for example generational is abused like crazy).
 
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Rossi being one of the oldest players in the draft is he expected to step in and play right away in the NHL next season?
 
I'd say a blue-chip prospect is something very close to a sure thing, but it is generally used much looser than that around here. As we've seen outside the tier behind McDavid this decade of center prospects like Matthews, Eichel, MacKinnon, and Seguin is probably that next tier of sure things (and before that Stamkos and JT). Now, some hit very high highs like Draisaitl, Barkov (Barkov arguably belongs in the first grouping, but it should be remembered he was viewed closer to Monahan and Lindholm by most at the time of his draft) and Pettersson in that next grouping (just speaking as prospects), but you also get your fair share who end up good players but not the #1 center you expect of high-end prospects (Sam Reinhart, Dylan Strome), some who are productive NHLers but are quite replaceable players (S. Bennett), others who are highly inconsistent (R. Strome, Galchenyuk) and others who are high-end but move positions (Huberdeau and to a lesser extent Lindholm), finally, you got guys like Monahan, PLD, and Hischier who are currently their teams #1 center, but might not be the ideal top 15 center in the league you hope for when drafting high (Hischier and PLD still have time to reach that on a consistent basis, but it remains to be seen what they are).

I'm not sure any of the centers in this draft are locked-in to be elite players like that tier behind McDavid I mentioned. Byfield could reach their level, but has more risk attached in my eyes. Blue-chip by definition is something with very limited risk, but like a lot of terms around here, things get bumped up all the time (for example generational is abused like crazy).
Daigle was a "blue chip" prospect so was Jonathan Drouin; Jack Hughes?
 
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Daigle was a "blue chip" prospect so was Jonathan Drouin; Jack Hughes?
Daigle is the rare-exception (basically the Nortel of example for bluechip Hockey prospects). The other truly elite center prospects from that time frame are Lindros, Joe Thornton and Lecavalier, plus Crosby and Malkin of the 00's of guys I didn't list. Which is about 4 or so a decade, and of the 16 mentioned,ony one has failed to be an impact NHLer, 2 if you want to count Stefan who was destroyed by concussions (but you could argue Henrik Sedin was better).

Drouin was arguably in the next grouping and was also a winger (I'd put him clearly behind everyone I listed in that top tier). I personally thought Hughes was behind the people I listed in the clear top tier (Matthews, Eichel, Mackinnon, and Seguin) and said that at the time and that he probably belongs on the wing (plus, he has a long time to prove people he belongs in that tier and at center).
 
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Daigle is the rare-exception (basically the Nortel of example for bluechip Hockey prospects). Drouin was arguably in the next grouping and was also a winger (I'd put him clearly behind everyone I listed in that top tier). I personally thought Hughes was behind the people I listed in the clear top tier (Matthews, Eichel, Mackinnon, and Seguin) and said that at the time and that he probably belongs on the wing (plus, he has a long time to prove people he belongs in that tier and at center).

My comment was more about the risk. Not sure there is a text book definition of Blue Chip but I am pretty sure in their draft year most people consider them to be good enough to be called "Blue Chip" .. not everyone pans out as most of us think they will
 
My comment was more about the risk. Not sure there is a text book definition of Blue Chip but I am pretty sure in their draft year most people consider them to be good enough to be called "Blue Chip" .. not everyone pans out as most of us think they will
Which was mainly what I was pointing out. People use the term blue-chip way too loosely. It denotes an investment that has limited risk attached. The word has been adapted loosely into a term it doesn't exactly fit. Which is why I pointed to the center prospects who really carried almost no-risk outside of injury and in Daigle's case no-work ethic. I mean, if you can find 16 blue-chip or higher center prospects since 1990 (Lindros, Daigle, Thorton, Lecavalier, Malkin, Crosby, Stamkos, Tavares, MacKinnon, McDavid, Eichel, Matthews) and only one fails, the means those guys are of very limited risk. Which is why I then pointed to that next tier of center prospects from this decade that came with more risk, and the mixed results from those players.

Similar to how people claiming the rate of generational prospects or players is not accurate to the terms meaning.
 
Can we take a second and appreciate these powerfull and agile edgework!?

Please fall to the habs.

His skills are complimentary to today's game, there is very little space in the offensive zone and his quickness and edge work will allow him to navigate to the high scoring areas. He can play in the NHL next year in a 3rd line role easily IMO.
 
His skills are complimentary to today's game, there is very little space in the offensive zone and his quickness and edge work will allow him to navigate to the high scoring areas. He can play in the NHL next year in a 3rd line role easily IMO.

To quote Andy Samberg quoting Nick Cage “that’s high praise”. Have you watched him a decent amount to be comfortable with that thought? For those expressing doubt about his game I’d be curious how he’d be evaluated if he was the same player except 6 feet tall? If height is the only thing holding him out of the top four or five that’s probably an oversight with a guy who has a frame like Rossi.
 
Rossi being one of the oldest players in the draft is he expected to step in and play right away in the NHL next season?
It’s uncommon for a player taken 5th overall or later to play in the NHL right away, and it looks likely Rossi will go 5th or later. So I think most won’t expect it.

With that being said, I personally do expect him to play, and to be an immediate impact player. He’s just so good! Elite hockey IQ, great edges, strong on the puck, great compete level and 2-way play, I think he’s one of those rare players that can make the jump immediately. I actually think he can make a pretty significant impact, like 40+ points, though that’s definitely SUPER rare for a guy picked 5th or later.
 
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It’s uncommon for a player taken 5th overall or later to play in the NHL right away, and it looks likely Rossi will go 5th or later. So I think most won’t expect it.

With that being said, I personally do expect him to play, and to be an immediate impact player. He’s just so good! Super high IQ, almost never makes a bad play, great edges, strong on the puck, great compete level and 2-way play, I think he’s one of those rare players that can make the jump immediately. I actually think he can make a pretty significant impact, like 40+ points, though that’s definitely SUPER rare for a guy picked 5th or later.

If Rossi goes 5th overall or later, gonna be a huge steal, more so if goes later.
 
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I want the Sens to take him at 5... they likely won't cuz they are dumasses

Honestly, I’d trust the scouts.. I’m happy with any one of this group:

Rossi
Raymond
Drysdale
Sanderson
Perfetti
Quinn
Holtz

If they go “off board” with the pick (say Askarov or Lundell) then I’ll feel disappointed but cautiously optimistic to be proven wrong.
 
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Indeed. I agree. Its a shame that only few here see it.

It's amazing that Rossi has become such a love/hate prospect on these boards. I'm betting that he'll be one of the top 10 picks in the draft this year, and that he'll end up a top 5 player from the draft. Too much drive, talent, and smarts for him to fail. At worst I'd expect him to be a solid #2 defensive center that's good for 50-60 points. At best I'd expect him to be the offensive driver of a line getting 70-80 points a season while still being very responsible defensively.
 
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I’ll be interested to see if the draft shakes out in such a way that he falls to 10OA
 

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