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C/LW Lias Andersson (2017, 7th, NYR, traded to LAK)

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docbenton said:
Andersson plays a good all round game but his one elite trait is his shot. He's a sniper, incredible release that's is quick, powerful, accurate. As good as Tolvanen's IMO. That will be his calling card offensively at the next level.
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I agree about his shot. Thats what I was thinking.

I went back to watch more tape on him. I had seen him play 5-10 times before, but wasn't focusing only on isolated plays he made to analyze exactly how good he is at everything. I don't analyze the draft that in depth, but analyzing our actual picks, I saw that his release and power in his shot is very good. He can shoot the puck past goalies, scores a lot of perimeter goals.
 
People that question his ceiling are duds. His draft year production in the SHL is only matched by Robert Nilsson, Nick Backstrom and the Sedins.
 
For those that watch him regularly, could he be NHL ready this season?

We are in need of NHL centers right now after losing two in the last few days. I doubt Gorton pins the hopes of the team on a 7OA 18 year old in a weak draft, but theoretically he might have a chance to make the team.

And I'm not talking about as a 13th forward, but as a 3C. Could he be an NHL 3C this upcoming season?
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
For those that watch him regularly, could he be NHL ready this season?

We are in need of NHL centers right now after losing two in the last few days. I doubt Gorton pins the hopes of the team on a 7OA 18 year old in a weak draft, but theoretically he might have a chance to make the team.

And I'm not talking about as a 13th forward, but as a 3C. Could he be an NHL 3C this upcoming season?
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Although he plays the kind of mature, all around game that could see him hang around the lower end of an NHL lineup next season, I think having him in such an important role would be a huge mistake, and he'd likely flounder next season. He hasn't even been a frontline guy in the SHL for a full year yet.

Obviously the Rangers really like him given how aggressive they were in targeting him, but letting the kid play for Frölunda for a year, which has as good a track record as anyone in developing young players, won't be a bad thing.
 
Really liked this pick by the Rangers. They aren't a team that picks high very often, and they chose a guy who is basically a guaranteed top 6 forward.
 
1 year in Frölunda before crossing the pond would do him well I think. Could probably be in the NHL starting from the 2018-19 season.
 
I think he'll end up in Frölunda this season but i'd venture a guess that he'll get a long look at camp, kinda depends what else Gorton is doing this summer though.
 
snipetype said:
People that question his ceiling are duds. His draft year production in the SHL is only matched by Robert Nilsson, Nick Backstrom and the Sedins.
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Keep in mind that a number on the Rangers board were disappointed in his draft-year production. Which was such a strange thing to complain about considering it was really God damn good.
 
Anderssons put up the same pace as Nylander in the same league in his pre draft year and also had a better PPG in more games in his draft year than Nylanders (both in the SHL)
LA- 19 points in 42 games
Bill Ny- 7 points in 22 games
Add in the fact that he was much superior defensively compared to Nylander I'm very happy. Not saying he'll end up better than Nylander or whatever I'm just stating it's pretty impressive while playing only 13 minutes a night in a defensive role. Also putting up comparable numbers to Backstrom. I think he can end up as a 60-65 point player that is Selke-caliber. Somewhere between Zetterberg and Backlund. Okay, maybe I am overrating him a bit but he has legit potential and people think he's inept offensively because he's a defensive forward. I expect him to breakout offensively next season with Frolunda with Dahlin in the back end too and people will be surprised and then say it was a good reach. He's NHL ready for sure but only in a bottom 6 role. He needs one more year in the SHL and then he'll be ready to come over. His floor seems to be a good middle sixer and he also has good potential and enough to be a 1C similar to Koivu (he doesn't play like Koivu but similar as in he'll be a 1C that's good for 55-65 points per year with Selke level defending.) His shot and speed are also very underrated too as he has a very good shot with a quick release. Could we have moved down to like 13-15 and got assets for him? Sure, but I'm still happy with this pick and the Chytil one (not the rest of the Rangers draft though) big hopes for the kid. Rangers fans are mad because they see him as a future 2C (which is still solid)
 
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Lays said:
Anderssons put up the same pace as Nylander in the same league in his pre draft year and also had a better PPG in more games in his draft year than Nylanders (both in the SHL)
LA- 19 points in 42 games
Bill Ny- 7 points in 22 games
Add in the fact that he was much superior defensively compared to Nylander I'm very happy. Not saying he'll end up better than Nylander or whatever I'm just stating it's pretty impressive while playing only 13 minutes a night in a defensive role. Also putting up comparable numbers to Backstrom. I think he can end up as a 60-65 point player that is Selke-caliber. Somewhere between Zetterberg and Backlund. Okay, maybe I am overrating him a bit but he has legit potential and people think he's inept offensively because he's a defensive forward. I expect him to breakout offensively next season with Frolunda with Dahlin in the back end too and people will be surprised and then say it was a good reach. He's NHL ready for sure but only in a bottom 6 role. He needs one more year in the SHL and then he'll be ready to come over. His floor seems to be a good middle sixer and he also has good potential and enough to be a 1C similar to Koivu (he doesn't play like Koivu but similar as in he'll be a 1C that's good for 55-65 points per year with Selke level defending.) His shot and speed are also very underrated too as he has a very good shot with a quick release. Could we have moved down to like 13-15 and got assets for him? Sure, but I'm still happy with this pick and the Chytil one (not the rest of the Rangers draft though) big hopes for the kkid
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Agreed.

I'm an Islander fan, but loved Andersson coming into this draft and am not afraid to admit I think the Rangers got a good one.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
I'm not sure we could've moved back. Supposedly, LA was going to pick him at 11. We were at 7. Where would we move back to?
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LAK moves up to 7 to make sure they grab Vilardi as he was falling and no one expected it? At least like a 3rd or something at the least but we could've got a decent plus
 
Lays said:
LAK moves up to 7 to make sure they grab Vilardi as he was falling and no one expected it? At least like a 3rd or something at the least but we could've got a decent plus
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What I'm saying is that LA supposedly wanted Andersson. So where could we move back to.

Unless we were taking the player Buffalo wanted, they would have no incentive to trade with us. So 9 or 10 it would have to be. Its true we could've moved back to 9 or 10, but what are we talking about? A 3rd? A 4th? Its not that big of a deal, and even then, I wouldn't doubt that Hakan Andersson might want to draft him, so trading with Detroit might've not really been an option.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
What I'm saying is that LA supposedly wanted Andersson. So where could we move back to.

Unless we were taking the player Buffalo wanted, they would have no incentive to trade with us. So 9 or 10 it would have to be. Its true we could've moved back to 9 or 10, but what are we talking about? A 3rd? A 4th? Its not that big of a deal, and even then, I wouldn't doubt that Hakan Andersson might want to draft him, so trading with Detroit might've not really been an option.
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Our team insinuated we tried trading up to NYR to take Vilardi.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
What I'm saying is that LA supposedly wanted Andersson. So where could we move back to.

Unless we were taking the player Buffalo wanted, they would have no incentive to trade with us. So 9 or 10 it would have to be. Its true we could've moved back to 9 or 10, but what are we talking about? A 3rd? A 4th? Its not that big of a deal, and even then, I wouldn't doubt that Hakan Andersson might want to draft him, so trading with Detroit might've not really been an option.
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My bad. Thought you meant they were planning on picking Vilardi at 11 and got confused and thought "how would they know he'd be there?"
 
The fact that the Rangers drafted him makes me feel like he's going to be a good one. Production can end up anywhere between 49-69 points and can have an impact in all three zones. That's scary.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
Someone on our board claimed you guys wanted to pick Andersson, and its not like it's a crazy link, given his father scouts for you guys.
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Our team made it clear they like most scouting services had Vilardi in their top 4. Tried trading with every team from 5 down apparently with everyone shooting them down before even listening to offers. Andersson was not in our top 4, which Vilardi was. If Vilardi was gone I could well imagine we'd have gone Andersson, but even then think Suzuki.

Regardless he will be a solid player if nothing more. Not the highest upside in this draft, but a very solid and safe pick
 
Well, even just from this 10 second clip, he's a better skater than Derek Stepan and Kevin Hayes easily.

 
seafoam said:
The fact that the Rangers drafted him makes me feel like he's going to be a good one. Production can end up anywhere between 49-69 points and can have an impact in all three zones. That's scary.
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But if he is bald by the age of 24, fans will want him gone ;)
 
He should stay in Sweden at least two more years. Get a Top-3 role and get used to it, then head over. You dont want this kid checking right out if the draft.

Almost all Swedish forwards dont imeediately cross over. If Markus Naslund, Peter Forsberg, Henrik Zetterberg, Daniel Alfredssin can marinate in an elite pro league, so can Andersson.

Absolutely no reason to rush him or else you could end up with another Malhotra situation. Vigneault is the last guy I want developing a teenager.
 
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