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C Leon Draisaitl (2014, 3rd, EDM) II

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When it's all said and done Leon may be the best of the Oilers' bunch not named McDavid. The guy is perfect for the Western Conference. A great combination of size, strength, vision, and hands. He just needs better wheels, which is something you can teach. It isn't easy, but his skating stride isn't terrible, so there's room to grow and improve.
 
Highlights are up on the WHL site for those of you outside of Canada that can't get the SN video to work.
 
victor said:


After Kyle Woodlief of Redline Report stated that he'd take Draisaitl over Strome, and now Kirk Luedeke makes a comment like that?

Wow.
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I like LD more than Strome but some of you Oiler's fans are going over the top. LD is approximately 15 months older than Strome, that's an enormous amount of time development wise. Heck, when LD was Strome's age, he put up a decent put not great 58 points in the WHL. Whose to say Strome can't close the gap or even pass LD when gets to the same age?
 
Tazer said:
I like LD more than Strome but some of you Oiler's fans are going over the top. LD is approximately 15 months older than Strome, that's an enormous amount of time development wise. Heck, when LD was Strome's age, he put up a decent put not great 58 points in the WHL. Whose to say Strome can't close the gap or even pass LD when gets to the same age?
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Because what you see of LD is exactly what we've seen in training camp way back in Sept. The elite passing and puck possession has not changed... and his skating is still sub-par.

It's not that Strome is bad player, but the expectations are out of whack much like they were with Brayden Schenn.
 
voxel said:
Because what you see of LD is exactly what we've seen in training camp way back in Sept. The elite passing and puck possession has not changed... and his skating is still sub-par.

It's not that Strome is bad player, but the expectations are out of whack much like they were with Brayden Schenn.
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So because LD hasn't improved since September, Strome can't either? So no player can technically get better because Strome hasn't fixed his skating since September? Interesting.
 
Mr Forever said:
When it's all said and done Leon may be the best of the Oilers' bunch not named McDavid. The guy is perfect for the Western Conference. A great combination of size, strength, vision, and hands. He just needs better wheels, which is something you can teach. It isn't easy, but his skating stride isn't terrible, so there's room to grow and improve.
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He reminds me of another German, Soccer player Bastian schweinsteiger. Pure grit, power and determination. Nothing fancy, just production and delivery

I really feel Eberle's day are numbered in Oilers. You can always turn a center into a winger not other way around. Eberle also has a cap hit of 6 mil.
 
IMO Drai and Nurse need to be seasoned in the AHL. I love Drai, I think he's going to be a beast on this club, but they need AHL time, no doubt in my mind. I don't even care of they are NHL ready, you cannot go wrong by sending them down to the minors
 
Draisaitl looks great but let's not get ahead of ourselves. People were pretty hard on Drai after his time in the NHL and now people are getting too excited over a short span in junior. How about we wait until he is 23-24 and see. He looks fantastic right now, but he will still need to work on his quickness in the pros.
 
bsmith14 said:
Draisaitl looks great but let's not get ahead of ourselves. People were pretty hard on Drai after his time in the NHL and now people are getting too excited over a short span in junior. How about we wait until he is 23-24 and see. He looks fantastic right now, but he will still need to work on his quickness in the pros.
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Sorry, Voice of Reason, you're not wanted on the voyage.
 
At this point I'd prefer Draisaitl over Strome going forward. It's really shortsighted though to say an 18yr old doesn't have a chance to improve and change my mind. Heck it's hard to say what any players potential is until they play a few years in the league. I'm super
Pumped about Draisaitl and I'm sure whichever fan base gets Strome will be pretty pumped about him as well.
 
What are realistic expectations for Draisaitel? What kind of player can he be?

Is it realiistic that he might be a 1PPG player in the NHL sooner or later?
 
Reindl87 said:
What are realistic expectations for Draisaitel? What kind of player can he be?

Is it realiistic that he might be a 1PPG player in the NHL sooner or later?
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I think he will be a very good 2nd line center who can kill penalties and chip in offensively ala 55-65 points a year. Maybe a better Patrik Berglund or a poor mans Kopitar. In his prime I think he will be a #1 center who puts up 65-75 points.
 
I think realistic upside is very good 2c who can put up 65 while playing a strong two way game. Can play all facets of the game and a multi tool player. Sort of like a krecji
 
Mctopchowda said:
I think realistic upside is very good 2c who can put up 65 while playing a strong two way game. Can play all facets of the game and a multi tool player. Sort of like a krecji
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I don't think he'll ever put up 65 points unless he switches to wing.

Why would he play 2C? Are you planning on trading RNH? If Draisaitl drops into the 3C mold like Jordan Staal did in Pittsburgh than Draisaitl should top out at ~50 points per year on the high end.
 
couture23 said:
I don't think he'll ever put up 65 points unless he switches to wing.

Why would he play 2C? Are you planning on trading RNH? If Draisaitl drops into the 3C mold like Jordan Staal did in Pittsburgh than Draisaitl should top out at ~50 points per year on the high end.
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50pts is on the low for his high-end. Heck J.Staal, Gagner, Kadri, Hodgson have "peaked" at 50pts and I believe LD has higher end offensive skill with his passing and puck protection.

And unlike past Oilers prospects (looking at you Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson) he's got the toolbox to match the tools.

The negative is that his low end could be ~30pts 3C because if his skating doesn't improve enough (like Gagner, Hodgson, etc.) then he'll be a checking forward.
 
couture23 said:
I don't think he'll ever put up 65 points unless he switches to wing.

Why would he play 2C? Are you planning on trading RNH? If Draisaitl drops into the 3C mold like Jordan Staal did in Pittsburgh than Draisaitl should top out at ~50 points per year on the high end.
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voxel said:
The negative is that his low end could be ~30pts 3C because if his skating doesn't improve enough (like Gagner, Hodgson, etc.) then he'll be a checking forward.
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"Upside" is something a player is capable of, completely independent of whether his role on one team allows for it. If Marco Sturm and Jochen Hecht can set career-highs in the high 50s, and generally be in the 40s or 50s, than that's definately not the upside of Draisaitl.

Draisaitl is easily more talented than those two, and his vision and playmaking alone will make sure that a 30 point checking forward is not his low end.

At some point, either all three centers will have developed so well that one of them has to be moved, or another team will try and trade for Draisaitl in a gamble on him fulfilling his talent. Either case will allow a big enough role for him to put up points.

Either way, I cannot see Draisaitl not putting up 65 points as his career-best, unless his career gets completely derailed by injuries.
 
Mr Forever said:
When it's all said and done Leon may be the best of the Oilers' bunch not named McDavid. The guy is perfect for the Western Conference. A great combination of size, strength, vision, and hands. He just needs better wheels, which is something you can teach. It isn't easy, but his skating stride isn't terrible, so there's room to grow and improve.
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taylor hall has already shown that he can be a 80-90 point guy who can drive the play so I doubt that drai will be better
 
bsmith14 said:
Draisaitl looks great but let's not get ahead of ourselves. People were pretty hard on Drai after his time in the NHL and now people are getting too excited over a short span in junior. How about we wait until he is 23-24 and see. He looks fantastic right now, but he will still need to work on his quickness in the pros.
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This. Yak looked dominant in junior as well and is slowly adapting to the NHL game once he had some veteran help. I hope we are patient with Drai.
 
Funny how much love Drai got after the Rimouski game where they gave him all the time and space he needed, and then nothing after Cassels and the Gens shut him down and frustrate him. Kid has a wee bit of an attitude problem if you ask me. Floated around all game against Oshawa and let the hacks bother him.
 
sabresEH said:
Funny how much love Drai got after the Rimouski game where they gave him all the time and space he needed, and then nothing after Cassels and the Gens shut him down and frustrate him. Kid has a wee bit of an attitude problem if you ask me. Floated around all game against Oshawa and let the hacks bother him.
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If there is one thing Draisaitl most definately doesn't have it's an attitude problem :shakehead
 
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