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C Leo Carlsson (2023, 2nd, ANA)

Shroud of Orrin said:
I wouldn’t rush him. Ducks are going no where. Let him grow for a year and dominate a WJC. He’s too important for their future for foolishness and I hope Verbeek isn’t thinking he needs to validate his decision.

The only Swedish born player to play a full season in the NHL at 18 was Dahlin. He had an amazing 44 points in 82 games. After him it was Alex Nylander with 1 in 4; Fillip Forsberg with 1 in 5 and; Zibby with 1 in 9…

Let Leo marinate.
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Landeskog is swedish born.
 
Kalv said:


He said one of his main goals during the summer is to work on his first 3 steps. Will see how well he can improve them. Certainly some room for improvement there but his skating is not horrible or anything.

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I think hiring a figure skating coach would do wonders. Aswell as adding some lower-body strenght.
 
CBJWerenski8 said:
He may be "slow" but his skating is clearly improving. He'll be able to keep up in the NHL and his agility is super underrated (even for his size). Going to be a great player
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Talk about Carlsson's agility, he was so smooth at this agility drill. Every other prospect in his group (fellow 2023 draft forwards Myatovic, Terrance, and Pitre) were not as smooth or quick like Carlsson in this drill. It's like Carlsson's been doing this drill for weeks when it's his first time doing it.

 
I think he's already a really good skater, in the sense that he's fast and agile and powerful. He's definitely not slow. Fixing his technical issues would make Leo an elite skater. He just needs to get more flexion in his ankles, knees, and hips, starting with the ankles.
 
smitty10 said:
He skates like Mats Sundin. Everyone always used to say that he was slow when in reality he had long, powerful strides.
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Similar to Getzlaf as well, not fast at the start but when they get up to speed good luck stopping that train. He’s plenty smooth on his edges too so he doesn’t lose too much speed in tight. I’m glad to hear he realizes his first few strides as a weakness and is working on that this summer.
 
I’m not concerned that Leo is not fast, he has that high IQ and skill Like Getzlaf where he can slow the game down. His frame (especially when he adds more muscle) will be able to protect the puck or knock someone off the puck, and he goes to the dirty areas, something the Ducks really need.
 
Honest question for anyone who has experience in this area, but how much can someone's skating actually improve once they are an adult? Are there any examples of players with significant holes in their skating technique making huge progress in those areas after their draft year?
 
Ducks said:
Honest question for anyone who has experience in this area, but how much can someone's skating actually improve once they are an adult? Are there any examples of players with significant holes in their skating technique making huge progress in those areas after their draft year?
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Brayden point is a great recent example.

With today's tech and specialized coaching, improvement in skating is much more common than before and absolutely doable if the kid puts in the work. It helps that players physically mature and add lower body strength as well.
 
Ducks said:
Honest question for anyone who has experience in this area, but how much can someone's skating actually improve once they are an adult? Are there any examples of players with significant holes in their skating technique making huge progress in those areas after their draft year?
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Huge amounts. Look at Draisaitl's draft year highlights in the WHL

Here is one in particular where Draisaitl (29 in green) outskates Point (18 in black). Both of their skating has come a long way since then....

 
Hockey Duckie said:
Talk about Carlsson's agility, he was so smooth at this agility drill. Every other prospect in his group (fellow 2023 draft forwards Myatovic, Terrance, and Pitre) were not as smooth or quick like Carlsson in this drill. It's like Carlsson's been doing this drill for weeks when it's his first time doing it.

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This actually makes his skating look…not good? Those turns were brutal.
 
WhiskeyYerTheDevils said:
Huge amounts. Look at Draisaitl's draft year highlights in the WHL

Here is one in particular where Draisaitl (29 in green) outskates Point (18 in black). Both of their skating has come a long way since then....

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Jesus that is bad lol.

Lavar Ball said:
He'll be fine
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I don't think anyone is worried about his speed. It is his agility and first 3 steps that need work.
He is like Getzlaf. Once he gets going he has long powerful strides. Its the getting going part that needs work.
 
Static said:
Brayden point is a great recent example.

With today's tech and specialized coaching, improvement in skating is much more common than before and absolutely doable if the kid puts in the work. It helps that players physically mature and add lower body strength as well.
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Can improve skating, bulk up, and add physicality. You cannot teach Hockey IQ and vision, that comes natural. Leo has the skill and high IQ and when he improves the other parts of his game, I think he will be the Ducks next Getzy but without the mean streak, but that’s fine.

The kid will also be able to take physicality against him, while protecting the puck especially when he adds more muscle and with his size. With that said, still hoping Zegras adds some muscle as well.
 
I'd be curious to know the difference between Carlsson now and E. Pettersson at the same age.

Is Carlsson ahead of where Petty was?
 
Ducks said:
Honest question for anyone who has experience in this area, but how much can someone's skating actually improve once they are an adult? Are there any examples of players with significant holes in their skating technique making huge progress in those areas after their draft year?
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Not necessarily Carlsson related, but the idea that skating is the easiest thing to improve as a blanket statement is a myth. Skating can be improved when there is a technical flaw that can be corrected and athleticism to back up that improvement.

For someone who's already a strong technical skater, you're not going to see anything more than marginal improvements as players gain more lower body strength.
 
Leo Carlsson is a perfect storm of bigger guy with long stride and not the most elegant style of skating, teenager in a fast pro league getting his skating assessed vs guys playing against other teens and still a bit top heavy physically. This combined has some people completely missing the mark when assessing his skating. McDavid he ain't but he'll be a plus skater in the NHL. As he himself says, his first few steps needs to get quicker but overall he's a far better skater than given credit for.
 
Ducks said:
Honest question for anyone who has experience in this area, but how much can someone's skating actually improve once they are an adult? Are there any examples of players with significant holes in their skating technique making huge progress in those areas after their draft year?
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Barkov for a bigger player

He’s a beautiful& very efficient skater today, hired a figure skating coach years back
 
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