C Jack Eichel - Boston University, NCAA (2015, 2nd, BUF) III

[AD1066]

Eberle had 4P in 4GP at 19, never having played a game. Toews had 7 in 9.

It's not that impressive

Could've had a few more points based on teammates failing to execute.

Although the whole team was kind of disjointed and seemed to defer to him with the puck, which led to him trying to do to much on his own.

Regardless he played just fine and passed the eye test. Speed, hands, vision were all on display for those watching. And I doubt Sabres fans are getting too hung up on that stat line, as it's irrelevant at this point.

You seem pretty committed to downplaying him, McDavid not good enough for you guys or something?

 

[La Cosa Nostra]

Eberle had 4P in 4GP at 19, never having played a game. Toews had 7 in 9.

It's not that impressive

Both those guys were 19 AND DRAFTED.Eichel was 18 and NOT EVEN DRAFTED YET.

 

[Zero Requiem]

Both those guys were 19 AND DRAFTED.Eichel was 18 and NOT EVEN DRAFTED YET.

Crosby had 16 in 9 at 18, what's your point?

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Technically he played an NHL game before that. Meaningless in the scheme of things, but this might have been relayed to the poster as a technical record (which would be tied with Toews if even true).

Touché

 

[Team Cozens]

Prior to watching him I'd heard a lot of Getzlaf comparisons (not same level of physicality), which I was skeptical about. Once I saw him at the WJC it made perfect sense. He uses his reach quite a bit and can slow down the play, yet make incredibly agile moves despite gliding/not going full throttle. In that sense I see a lot of Getzlaf, or to go back a bit, Doug Weight. On the PP he has a cannon from the high slot/point, and is deployed similarily to Getzlaf. What he possesses that Getzlaf lacks is that next gear. He has separation speed, but he doesn't fly around all the time like some guys (Hall, MacKinnon, McDavid). I'm not saying his wheels are as good as those 3, but not as far off as some might think.

He's really not behind McDavid by much. His game may actually transition to the NHL better than McDavid. He's a bit bigger and stronger and seems to rely on cycle plays, give and go plays, creating off his puck protection. McDavid is more electrifying, but I want to see him do some of these end to end rushes against Doughty/Weber before we anoint him "the next one." Both should be perennial top 10 scorers.

Very well said.

 

[CaseyMitts37]

Crosby had 16 in 9 at 18, what's your point?

Yeah, but Crosby had a full NHL season before the WC

 

[La Cosa Nostra]

Yeah, but Crosby had a full NHL season before the WC

Don't bother.Gotta love the bashing in the Eichel thread.You would think Eichel is some bum prospect instead of a guy who would go #1 every draft since Crosby.Didn't realize the anti-American bias was real but this is irrefutable proof.

 

[Mount Kramer Cameras]

Don't bother.Gotta love the bashing in the Eichel thread.You would think Eichel is some bum prospect instead of a guy who would go #1 every draft since Crosby.Didn't realize the anti-American bias was real but this is irrefutable proof.

You're using posts by DraberlyakMcHallkins as 'irrefutable proof'? God help us all

 

[nanzenkills]

Jonathan Towes in 2007 was also an armature (University of N. Dakota) and scored 7 pts (2 goals 5 assists) in 9 games. Canada won gold. Of course all we hear from the pseudo experts around here is, Towes is way overrated. Funny how that works!

Jack is a hell of a player.

The only people who think Toews is overrated are people who look strictly at point production. Sadly, there are still plenty of those people around, even on HF.

 

[Mustangs]

The more info I read about jack the more the gap between david and jack is not as high as people think. It is very interesting to see what happens with both players.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Crosby had 16 in 9 at 18, what's your point?

Crosby is also Crosby. And he was already a year into the NHL. And he had Patrice Berger on and a good Brad Boyes on his line.

Eichel had Trevor Lewis and Brock Nelson.

 

[McGuillicuddy]

Didn't realize the anti-American bias was real but this is irrefutable proof.

Correlation does not equal causality.

Examples:

I am wearing a blue shirt, and there are no jaguars in this building. Therefore my blue shirt must repel jaguars.

Jack Eichel is American, and not everybody thinks he will be great. Therefore everybody hates America.

See what I did there?

 

[tripleX]

Correlation does not equal causality.

Examples:

I am wearing a blue shirt, and there are no jaguars in this building. Therefore my blue shirt must repel jaguars.

Jack Eichel is American, and not everybody thinks he will be great. Therefore everybody hates America.

See what I did there?

...if that's totally just correlation.

On the other hand,

Jack Eichel is an American, most people from other countries think he is a good prospect, but many Canadians think he sucks and uses every chance to bash him. Then that makes people thinking if there is any reason causing these Canadian doing that, like they think their golden boy is untouchable that no one can be mentioned in the same sentence of their golden boy.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Do you think Buffalo might pass on him? I mean he is very outspoken and has a bit of attitude, take Hanifin or trade down instead?

Though I see him being a Sabre since last year.

 

[FamilyGuy716]

If by amateur you mean undrafted, then maybe.

Gaudreau had like 11 points last year.

I think he meant that.

 

[AD1066]

...if that's totally just correlation.

On the other hand,

Jack Eichel is an American, most people from other countries think he is a good prospect, but most Canadians think he sucks and uses every chance to bash him. Then that makes people thinking if there is any reason causing these Canadian doing that, like they think their golden boy is untouchable that no one can be mentioned in the same sentence of their golden boy.

I wouldn't generalize "most" Canadians based on a few posters on a message board.

 

[FamilyGuy716]

Do you think Buffalo might pass on him? I mean he is very outspoken and has a bit of attitude, take Hanifin or trade down instead?

Though I see him being a Sabre since last year.

Not a chance. The Sabres like his confidence. If I can generalize this one time, I think Americans are more this way (brash) than Canadians (not including Quebec) and it goes over well in the States but not so much in English Canada.

 

[Suxnet]

Do you think Buffalo might pass on him? I mean he is very outspoken and has a bit of attitude, take Hanifin or trade down instead?

Though I see him being a Sabre since last year.

lol no. I liked what I heard from Eichel and so should the Sabres. McDavid is great at hockey, but he is so boring. Luckily for Oilers fans, he'll be doing his talking on the ice.

 

[Kiraly]

I wouldn't generalize "most" Canadians based on a few posters on a message board.

I'm Canadian and I lke Eich.

 

[HockeyRobinson]

Eichel is the real deal. Like others have said, he isn't as dynamic as Connor.. in the sense that he doesn't have as many end-to-end rushes where he embarrasses a handful of players before burying it.. but he is absolutely build for the NHL game. Size, Speed, Strength and off-the-charts hockey IQ.

I see Mike Modano, with a chance to be even better if everything comes together for him.

I lost the lottery in my hockey pool and ended up with #3.. i've been desperately trying to swing a deal to get Jack.. so far, no good. I guess little Mitch Marner may have to do.

 

[Paxon]

Do you think Buffalo might pass on him? I mean he is very outspoken and has a bit of attitude, take Hanifin or trade down instead?

Though I see him being a Sabre since last year.

I don't agree that Eichel is outspoken. I don't say that in any defensive sort of way because I prefer athletes be outspoken to the typical banal droning we get. Eichel just seems pretty confident rather than cautious with what he says. I can't think of anything remotely controversial he's said in an interview. The most controversial thing we have him saying was behind closed doors: "I think I'll be the best player in the draft". Not very controversial, but not forced humility, either.

Even if he were Josh Ho-Sang in media interviews the team would be foolish to pass on him. He's not, though. Personally I'd like to see some of that cockiness manifest a bit more when he gets his feet in the league. So long as he treats his teammates and coaches with respect who cares what a player says in interviews. People bend over backwards to talk about what a great teammate he is, for what it's worth.

 

[bigdog16]

Was at the bars with 5 or 6 guys (Canadians) who play d1 in the hockey east. They all agreed Eichel will be better than Mcdavid. So take it as you will, just sharing

 

[1967th Heaven]

...if that's totally just correlation.

On the other hand,

Jack Eichel is an American, most people from other countries think he is a good prospect, but most Canadians think he sucks and uses every chance to bash him. Then that makes people thinking if there is any reason causing these Canadian doing that, like they think their golden boy is untouchable that no one can be mentioned in the same sentence of their golden boy.

I'm Canadian and a big fan of Eichel. In terms of the Mcdavid comparison, the gap is a lot smaller than most people think imo. I would even argue that Jack will have an easier time transitioning to the NHL due to the pro style game he plays and his experience playing with older, stronger guys in the NCAA

 

[Plub]

Correlation does not equal causality.

Examples:

I am wearing a blue shirt, and there are no jaguars in this building. Therefore my blue shirt must repel jaguars.

Jack Eichel is American, and not everybody thinks he will be great. Therefore everybody hates America.

See what I did there?

Not really the same, at all. Most of Eichel's detractors if not all are Canadian. You think that is a coincidence? There's a clear bias from a group of Canadian posters around here that wouldn't exist if this guy was Canadian. It's pathetic, really.

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

Not really the same, at all. Most of Eichel's detractors if not all are Canadian. You think that is a coincidence? There's a clear bias from a group of Canadian posters around here that wouldn't exist if this guy was Canadian. It's pathetic, really.

What's your point? Most of the people promoting him are American. Is that also "pathetic"?