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C German Rubtsov (2016, 22nd, PHI)

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kp61c said:
constituency is an issue, tend to disappear for a few games after one good one. not impressed by his shooting ability, neither by his physique.
and it's not a question of what will hold him back but of what will put him forward. he's a jack of all trades who doesn't excel at anything to me. that doesn't sound very promising. i may be mistaken, of course.
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I guess these guys are wrong then:

http://thehockeywriters.com/german-rubtsov-the-next-ones-nhl-2016-draft-prospect-profile/

http://www.thedraftanalyst.com/prospects/german-rubtsov/

http://www.broadstreethockey.com/fl...ubtsov-scouting-report-profile-2016-nhl-draft

he’s arguably the 2016 draft’s best two-way forward

He is a very strong skater with excellent acceleration and balance. But mix in his mobility with strength and tenacity, and you get a coach’s dream.

He’s an extremely competitive leader who will involve himself physically

Rubtsov has a very good shot which he can wire off his back foot or unload via a slapper

Rubtsov is a highly-intelligent two-way center and is probably one of the players with the highest Hockey IQ of the entire draft.

His strides are powerful and he is hard to knock off the puck as he is an excellent puck protector

He is a coach’s dream as he combines work ethic, a strong two-way game and smart

In the neutral zone, he is a pain to play against

Rubtsov is great in anticipating plays and can be used in all game situations.

Rubtsov is arguably one of the top overall talents in the draft this year. Playing for Russia’s U18 team this past year, he showcased a special blend of two-way play

If I had to make a list, I’d say Rubtsov is arguably a top 10 talent in the draft
 
I'm super pumped about Rubtsov, but let a man have an opinion. It sounds like he's actually watched Rubstov play unlike the vast majority of us. Seemingly promising players bust all the time, and just because online talking heads tout his skills, doesn't mean they won't be hysterically wrong in five years. All first rounders get touted by online talking heads. Not all of them live up to it. No need to criticize someone for not being impressed by Rubtsov.
 
hockeyfreak7 said:
I'm super pumped about Rubtsov, but let a man have an opinion. It sounds like he's actually watched Rubstov play unlike the vast majority of us. Seemingly promising players bust all the time, and just because online talking heads tout his skills, doesn't mean they won't be hysterically wrong in five years. All first rounders get touted by online talking heads. Not all of them live up to it. No need to criticize someone for not being impressed by Rubtsov.
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It was to show the counter arguement that he does have qualities that some think he does excel at. Of course he could bust. They all could.
 
How is Rubtsov looking, I was hoping he might slip to #31 and the leafs could get him.
 
SmellOfVictory said:
That's actually a really good example of a guy who's kind of decent at everything without a particular standout ability (aside from being a very smart player).
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Rubstov was the leader of the team at a couple different tourneys. He pur up points when it counted. It's OK to be a jack of all trades if you're very good at all of them.
 
Jason MacIsaac said:
OK, maybe I am really undervaluing Maltsev's stats.
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SMantzas said:
Yeah, Maltsev was only .1ppg less
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Rubstov had 26 pts in 28 games= .93
Maltsev had 23 pts in 29 games= .79

Over an 82 game season, that's 76 pts for German, 65 for Maltsev.

Then add in that German is a C, Malt a winger.
And German is 3 months younger.
And German had a better U19 tourney...6 pts for him, 4 for Maltsev.

And that's only really comparing points. German has a very complete all around game.
 
Tripod said:
Rubstov had 26 pts in 28 games= .93
Maltsev had 23 pts in 29 games= .79

Over an 82 game season, that's 76 pts for German, 65 for Maltsev.

Then add in that German is a C, Malt a winger.
And German is 3 months younger.
And German had a better U19 tourney...6 pts for him, 4 for Maltsev.

And that's only really comparing points. German has a very complete all around game.
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Ya, not arguing he's a better prospect or anything, just surprised he went so late
 
Tripod said:
Rubstov had 26 pts in 28 games= .93
Maltsev had 23 pts in 29 games= .79

Over an 82 game season, that's 76 pts for German, 65 for Maltsev.

Then add in that German is a C, Malt a winger.
And German is 3 months younger.
And German had a better U19 tourney...6 pts for him, 4 for Maltsev.

And that's only really comparing points. German has a very complete all around game.
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So does Maltsev.
 
SMantzas said:
Ya, not arguing he's a better prospect or anything, just surprised he went so late
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Agreed. But lots of people were saying that very little separated guys as the draft wore on. And I hate to use it, but maybe the Russian factor did come into play. But that's also why I think you can find guys who slip for no reason except for where they play. He could fall into that category.


Zine said:
So does Maltsev.
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Sorry....what I meant is that Rubstov has comments like: "he’s arguably the 2016 draft’s best two-way forward". Only stressing that points are not the only thing to use when judging Rubstov because that is what I did.
 
Tripod said:
Rubstov had 26 pts in 28 games= .93
Maltsev had 23 pts in 29 games= .79

Over an 82 game season, that's 76 pts for German, 65 for Maltsev.

Then add in that German is a C, Malt a winger.
And German is 3 months younger.
And German had a better U19 tourney...6 pts for him, 4 for Maltsev.

And that's only really comparing points. German has a very complete all around game.
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From what I can gather Maltsev got significant minutes as the 2nd line center. But I haven't seen enough of either to make much of a judgement past relying on second hand sources.
 
I honestly thought there was a decent chance the Devils would end up with him if Keller, Jost, and Brown were off the table. His draft projections seemed all over the place, probably due to the Russian factor like you said.

Have never seen him play but his scouting reports that ive read are intriguing. Should be a interesting player to follow.
 
93LEAFS said:
From what I can gather Maltsev got significant minutes as the 2nd line center. But I haven't seen enough of either to make much of a judgement past relying on second hand sources.
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Lately I've been watching some of the Russia U-18 games that are on YouTube. Maltsev has played a lot at center. He seems like a quality player imo.
 
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First(?) fight in the men's league in a pre-season game against Metallurg Magnitogorsk. Fight starts at 0:36.

 
From the Flyers Rubtsov thread.

Appleyard said:
Played today in a 5-4 SO win. Was not on scoresheet.

What was promising however was that he centred Solodukhin & Kopeikin... who will both certainly be starters come regular season. Likely both on 3rd line.

Forward lines today were:

Makeev -- Nikulin -- Afinigenov
Kempe -- Horak -- ****ikov
Solodukhin -- Rubtsov -- Kopeikin
Dostoinov -- Koksharov -- Stepanov

That is not too far off what the line-up to start the season will probably be... though Aaltonen, Vyglazov, Tsyganov, Drugov, Abdullin & Korolyov will be battling for spots too.

Though tbh Aaltonen is a lock.
Drugov & Vyglazov will both likely be on team, as wingers.

but Abdullin, Korolyov & Tsyganov are likely to spend time in VHL this year (and are all wingers)... they did last few.

Of the players who played today Dostoinov & Stepanov are the two most likely not to start come regular season. I think both spend time in VHL... though Stepanov may just retire or sit around as extra man in case of injury... he is basically attempting a comeback after spending last year not playing hockey.
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