C Elias Pettersson - Timra IK, Allsvenskan (2017, 5th, VAN)
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He won't. I'll be very surprised if he slips past the non-playoff teams. While, he probably won't be high enough regarded for Arizona, I'd be shocked if an analytically inclined team like Flordia passed on him (if they still have a say).
While not universally loved by the scouting community, one or two teams will easily fall in love, which will make him slip out of the first nearly impossible. Now, him slipping out of the top 25 doesn't make every team that passed on him past 6 dumb as rocks.
That's far from a guarantee. His brother who is the same height is only listed at 176 at 23. He may not be able to carry that type of weight without it hurting his agility and skating.
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Kyle Turris was an extremely hard gainer and had to work for years to acquire an NHL caliber physique. He forced down a shocking amount of calories and lived in the weight room. Probably still does. He's now a damn good player. Mike Ribeiro never bothered. In fact, not only did he hang onto his skeleton frame, he smoked cigarrettes, drank to drunkenness, and abused narcotics during hockey seasons. And it didn't prevent him from being a very effective NHL player, save for a couple of seasons when his marriage was falling apart. If you have enough skill, you can be a skinny nhler. If you have enough discipline, you don't have to be a skinny nhler.
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ChadS
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Perhaps, or maybe his brother hasn't worked on it as much because having a physique like that is a much smaller issue when playing in Europe vs NHL. It's really impossible to know without having exact knowledge of their training, nutrition etc.
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If this guy slips out of the top-10, let alone the top-25, I definitely think ~18 teams will be regretting it. But, if that means the Blues have a higher chance to pick him up, I will welcome this lowered perceived value.
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The same is true for anyone. How much did Marner weigh when drafted? Thats why teams do their research on things like that. If there is a family history with this, it could be a problem, but I'd rather not assume health problems just because he's skinny and his brother is as well.
To be honest, I don't think Marner has put on any weight. He's gotten stronger, but I doubt he's added anything more than 6 pounds or so over almost 2 years. I'd be surprised if he is over 165. I also don't think Marner will need to.
I don't think you should expect guys to put on 30 pounds post-draft. Maybe guys who play 15 plus years, but I doubt he will add that in the next 5 years.
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A scale never got knocked on its ass by Shea Weber or Milan Lucic either. Kid's going to have to bulk up at least a bit to deal with the NHL. I don't see him getting much more than 180, hopefully that'll be enough because he has tremendous skill.
Both Pettersson and Dahlén will now join the J20 team in their playoff run now that the men's team won't make it to the SHL.
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Marner is probably 165 pounds soaking wet. And Gaudreau might be lighter. Skill will find a way.
I've watched him play enough this season that i understand the concern about 'size'. When you watch guys like Marner, Gaudreau, or Kane you can see the strength in their edge work and skating. Pettersson isn't someone i would describe as a great skater like those 3, but not because the technique isn't there. It appears from my viewings that this is because he lacks that lower body strength necessary to be a dynamic skater. If he can add that strength to his legs and core i think he could play at 180 and it would alleviate the concerns about his skating that worry scouts.
The ability to avoid big hits doesn't come from size. Shea Weber will level someone larger than him if he's a poor skater and/or puts himself in a vulnerable spot.
The ability to avoid big hits doesn't come from size. Shea Weber will level someone larger than him if he's a poor skater and/or puts himself in a vulnerable spot.
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What is a better season..
47 points in 46 games in the Allsvenskan which Pettersson did or
19 points in 42 games in the SHL that Anderson did.
47 points in 46 games in the Allsvenskan which Pettersson did or
19 points in 42 games in the SHL that Anderson did.
What Pettersson did is more impressive, but i'm saying that without really knowing how much ice time Andersson got in the SHL.
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Without comparing the two players, the same thing was said about Collberg at the 2012 draft. He made it to the 2nd round, and he was supposedly the steal of the draft.
Never amounted to anything.
Collberg also went scoreless that year in the SHL in 42 games. I'd consider that reason enough to not be taken in the first round.
Collberg didnt had the technical ability pettersson possesses. Not sure why they even are compared?
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Every player outside the 1st round is considered a steal by the fans of the team that drafts him. Some make it, some don't. Watched many games with Collberg in his draft year, I'd say he was picked around where he should have been.
Pettersson 17:12 / game
Andersson 13:37 / game - but a lot higher the last couple months during which he's also picked up most of his points.
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