My post was about Canucks fans overrating their prospects. The success of those prospects is directly tied into proving whether they were overrated or not. If their highly hyped prospects ended up becoming good players, it would provide justification for the hype. The track record shows that such hyped Canucks prospects over the years have almost all failed miserably.
Thinking that Sens prospects will end up turning into great players isn't unrealistic when their scouting staff has proven to be able to produce NHLers from all rounds in the draft. Thinking that Canucks prospects will do the same, when they've proven to be one of the worst teams in the league at drafting and developing prospects is foolish, which is exactly what my original post was pointing out.
It was you who created a strawman argument. As if somehow cherring picking my posts from 5+ years ago disproves my argument that Canucks fans generally tend to vastly overrated their prospects' potential.
Puempel has a 1-way contract. Noesen played exclusively in the NHL as a Devil. Both put up good numbers in limited roles. What about them makes you think they aren't NHLers going forward?
I think I might have missed Connauton, another prospect hyped by Canucks fans as a steal that hasn't turned into anything special, but if Puempel and Noesen are to be removed from the list, so should Gaunce and Forsling, who haven't done a whole lot at the NHL level either. That would leave only 4 NHL players produced by the Canucks in a decade. Talk about failure.
From my experience - no fanbase hypes their prospects like Vancouver. Maybe their fans are a bit more vocal, more numerous or more passionate than most. Whatever the reason, Canucks prospect tend to be overrated on HF.
The difference between Pettersson and Rundblad is that Rundblad actually did something after being drafted to deserve massive hype. Kid had 50P in 55GP in the SHL a couple years after being drafted. Won the Swedish Norris trophy as a 20YR old.
Pettersson has impressed in a couple prospect scrimmages. It's far too early to consider him a steal, especially considering most reputable scouts considered him a reach at 5.
My post was about Canucks fans overrating their prospects. The success of those prospects is directly tied into proving whether they were overrated or not. If their highly hyped prospects ended up becoming good players, it would provide justification for the hype. The track record shows that such hyped Canucks prospects over the years have almost all failed miserably.
Thinking that Sens prospects will end up turning into great players isn't unrealistic when their scouting staff has proven to be able to produce NHLers from all rounds in the draft. Thinking that Canucks prospects will do the same, when they've proven to be one of the worst teams in the league at drafting and developing prospects is foolish, which is exactly what my original post was pointing out.
It was you who created a strawman argument. As if somehow cherring picking my posts from 5+ years ago disproves my argument that Canucks fans generally tend to vastly overrated their prospects' potential.
Puempel has a 1-way contract. Noesen played exclusively in the NHL as a Devil. Both put up good numbers in limited roles. What about them makes you think they aren't NHLers going forward?
I think I might have missed Connauton, another prospect hyped by Canucks fans as a steal that hasn't turned into anything special, but if Puempel and Noesen are to be removed from the list, so should Gaunce and Forsling, who haven't done a whole lot at the NHL level either. That would leave only 4 NHL players produced by the Canucks in a decade. Talk about failure.
From my experience - no fanbase hypes their prospects like Vancouver. Maybe their fans are a bit more vocal, more numerous or more passionate than most. Whatever the reason, Canucks prospect tend to be overrated on HF.
The difference between Pettersson and Rundblad is that Rundblad actually did something after being drafted to deserve massive hype. Kid had 50P in 55GP in the SHL a couple years after being drafted. Won the Swedish Norris trophy as a 20YR old.
Pettersson has impressed in a couple prospect scrimmages. It's far too early to consider him a steal, especially considering most reputable scouts considered him a reach at 5.
So GM's picked other guys above him for fear that he could not gain weight?
And only 1 out of 12 of these rankings even had him in the top 5...at #5.
http://www.mynhldraft.com/2017-draft/2017-nhl-draft-rankings
Hopefully he pans out as it will help take the sting away from Virtanen.
If you think Canucks fans are the worst, I really wouldn't go into any of the Toronto prospects threads if I were you.My post was about Canucks fans overrating their prospects. The success of those prospects is directly tied into proving whether they were overrated or not. If their highly hyped prospects ended up becoming good players, it would provide justification for the hype. The track record shows that such hyped Canucks prospects over the years have almost all failed miserably.
Thinking that Sens prospects will end up turning into great players isn't unrealistic when their scouting staff has proven to be able to produce NHLers from all rounds in the draft. Thinking that Canucks prospects will do the same, when they've proven to be one of the worst teams in the league at drafting and developing prospects is foolish, which is exactly what my original post was pointing out.
It was you who created a strawman argument. As if somehow cherring picking my posts from 5+ years ago disproves my argument that Canucks fans generally tend to vastly overrated their prospects' potential.
Puempel has a 1-way contract. Noesen played exclusively in the NHL as a Devil. Both put up good numbers in limited roles. What about them makes you think they aren't NHLers going forward?
I think I might have missed Connauton, another prospect hyped by Canucks fans as a steal that hasn't turned into anything special, but if Puempel and Noesen are to be removed from the list, so should Gaunce and Forsling, who haven't done a whole lot at the NHL level either. That would leave only 4 NHL players produced by the Canucks in a decade. Talk about failure.
From my experience - no fanbase hypes their prospects like Vancouver. Maybe their fans are a bit more vocal, more numerous or more passionate than most. Whatever the reason, Canucks prospect tend to be overrated on HF.
The difference between Pettersson and Rundblad is that Rundblad actually did something after being drafted to deserve massive hype. Kid had 50P in 55GP in the SHL a couple years after being drafted. Won the Swedish Norris trophy as a 20YR old.
Pettersson has impressed in a couple prospect scrimmages. It's far too early to consider him a steal, especially considering most reputable scouts considered him a reach at 5.
Reminds me a lot of Mark Jankowski
Another post by opposing team fan who has a history of disliking canucks fans. In what way? Because they are both skinny?
I shouldnt even take the bait.
I have no idea what you just you wrote at the end, but you are on a discussion forum you do realize that, where people discuss things people post. Anytime you reply to someone I could ask you what do you care what they think? I dont know maybe the very small chance he has a legitimate reason for the comparison.
This thread is turning into a mess already either way, was much better pre draft.
My post was about Canucks fans overrating their prospects. The success of those prospects is directly tied into proving whether they were overrated or not. If their highly hyped prospects ended up becoming good players, it would provide justification for the hype. The track record shows that such hyped Canucks prospects over the years have almost all failed miserably.
Thinking that Sens prospects will end up turning into great players isn't unrealistic when their scouting staff has proven to be able to produce NHLers from all rounds in the draft. Thinking that Canucks prospects will do the same, when they've proven to be one of the worst teams in the league at drafting and developing prospects is foolish, which is exactly what my original post was pointing out.
It was you who created a strawman argument. As if somehow cherring picking my posts from 5+ years ago disproves my argument that Canucks fans generally tend to vastly overrated their prospects' potential.
Puempel has a 1-way contract. Noesen played exclusively in the NHL as a Devil. Both put up good numbers in limited roles. What about them makes you think they aren't NHLers going forward?
I think I might have missed Connauton, another prospect hyped by Canucks fans as a steal that hasn't turned into anything special, but if Puempel and Noesen are to be removed from the list, so should Gaunce and Forsling, who haven't done a whole lot at the NHL level either. That would leave only 4 NHL players produced by the Canucks in a decade. Talk about failure.
From my experience - no fanbase hypes their prospects like Vancouver. Maybe their fans are a bit more vocal, more numerous or more passionate than most. Whatever the reason, Canucks prospect tend to be overrated on HF.
The difference between Pettersson and Rundblad is that Rundblad actually did something after being drafted to deserve massive hype. Kid had 50P in 55GP in the SHL a couple years after being drafted. Won the Swedish Norris trophy as a 20YR old.
Pettersson has impressed in a couple prospect scrimmages. It's far too early to consider him a steal, especially considering most reputable scouts considered him a reach at 5.
Sayin hes a steal is some serious homerism. Nothing close to a steal at 5th overall, it was a reach if anything. Great prospect if he can put it together, but will be nowhere near Hischier, and likely not Patrick either.
Yeah, just like William Nylander or David Pastrnak (!) would be nowhere near Sam Bennett or Reinhart....Different tiers bla bla
It's very likely someone not drafted in the top 5 becomes the best player from this draft.
Cool, guess that rules petterson out then. /thread
Cool, guess that rules petterson out then. /thread
Sayin hes a steal is some serious homerism.
1 guy thinks hes a 90 point player = all canucks fans overrating him.
100% agreed and if anything a number 5 pick have higher expectations.