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C Dylan Strome - Erie Otters, OHL (2015 Draft)

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PETRYDISH said:
I was dead set on hanifin for the oilers, now I'm not so certain. Kind of want us to finish 4th so we dont have to decide aha. Strome is for real.
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What's cool is he did it without McDavid as well, so he's capable of playing incredible against top competition without being carried by McDavey
 
Nail Yakupov said:
What's cool is he did it without McDavid as well, so he's capable of playing incredible against top competition without being carried by McDavey
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By my count -- 35 points in 21 games without McDavid.

So kinda proves what the scouts have said for a while.... Strome likely doesnt lead the OHL in scoring without McDavid, BUT he is still an elite prospects, and deserves to go top 5.
 
leafsfuture said:
By my count -- 35 points in 21 games without McDavid.

So kinda proves what the scouts have said for a while.... Strome likely doesnt lead the OHL in scoring without McDavid, BUT he is still an elite prospects, and deserves to go top 5.
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Pretty sure that's pro-rated to 116 points.

Still amazing numbers.
 
I'd absolutely love to see the current Erie Otters record holder (Strome) alongside the former Erie Otters record holder (Brown).
 
Went to Barrie to see Strome and McDavid play a couple weeks ago, and I was just as impressed with Strome, if not more so, as I was with McDavid.

Strome has a very nice shot (put one off the bar in the Barrie game, from McDavid), and has a presence to his game that makes him very noticeable even without the puck. Both are going to be fantastic players, really hoping the Leafs are able to leave Sunrise with one of them come late June.
 
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Zaddy Zads said:
Smarter? Doubt it. Bigger? Strome is taller yes, but Draisaitl has probably about 20lbs on him. More talented? How do you quantify talent? I would love to know the metric. Higher upside? Maybe, still very close though.



Strome is absolutely not a better skater. I don't know if he's smarter offensively but I think Strome has better instincts, I'll give you that. Both are great prospects and I don't know how you say one guy definitively is better than the other at this point. Then again Strome is canadian so there's that.
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While I hate to use stats to prove a point, here it is.

95 born Draisaitl: 1.65 PPG
97 born Strome: 1.89 PPG

That is two age groups away.
 
Zaddy Zads said:
Great stuff. Who cares about context anyway, am I right? :help:
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Are you going to present any actual stats or facts to back up your case or what? Because everyone else seems to be presenting pretty good info and you come back with "Who cares...".
 
Zaddy Zads said:
Great stuff. Who cares about context anyway, am I right? :help:
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What context do you need, these are massive differences in PPG from a player two years behind in development and in previous posts you don't seem to think Strome is better offensively than Draisaitl. Strome is a top pick in many drafts.
 
Jason MacIsaac said:
While I hate to use stats to prove a point, here it is.

95 born Draisaitl: 1.65 PPG
97 born Strome: 1.89 PPG

That is two age groups away.
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Well, that is not taking into account Draisaitl is playing on a shutdown line in Kelowna, and playing 20 mins a night

If you go back to their rookie seasons when both were go to centers playing big offensive minutes, LD scored at a 1.5 ppg pace on a much lower scoring team

Otters: 857 points
Raiders: 657 points

LD on the Otters translates to 138 points (playing with Mcdavid). But context is everything, Strome away from McDavid is a 1.5 ppg player, similar to LD.

Strome is a better prospect, but not miles apart
 
kglink5 said:
Are you going to present any actual stats or facts to back up your case or what? Because everyone else seems to be presenting pretty good info and you come back with "Who cares...".
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1. Strome plays with McDavid, boosting PPG. Strome away from McDavid is still elite, but not 1.8 ppg
2. Draisaitl plays on a way more balanced Rocket team, playing the shutdown line with low OZ starts and against top opposition. His TOI is also around 20 mins, compared to 23+ for Strome. Points/ min are similar and when you take Strome away from McDavid they are probably the same
 
topchowda said:
Well, that is not taking into account Draisaitl is playing on a shutdown line in Kelowna, and playing 20 mins a night

If you go back to their rookie seasons when both were go to centers playing big offensive minutes, LD scored at a 1.5 ppg pace on a much lower scoring team

Otters: 857 points
Raiders: 657 points

LD on the Otters translates to 138 points (playing with Mcdavid). But context is everything, Strome away from McDavid is a 1.5 ppg player, similar to LD.

Strome is a better prospect, but not miles apart
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Actually he is 1.66 PPG without McDavid plus Strome isn't getting the prime time minutes and linemates. Draisaitl also hasn't improved his output from last year.
 
topchowda said:
1. Strome plays with McDavid, boosting PPG. Strome away from McDavid is still elite, but not 1.8 ppg
2. Draisaitl plays on a way more balanced Rocket team, playing the shutdown line with low OZ starts and against top opposition. His TOI is also around 20 mins, compared to 23+ for Strome. Points/ min are similar and when you take Strome away from McDavid they are probably the same
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1. Strome has 35 points in 21 games without McDavid in the lineup. Which is good for 116 points pro rated I believe.
2. Strome doesn't even play with McDavid I don't think, not the same line.
 
topchowda said:
1. Strome plays with McDavid, boosting PPG. Strome away from McDavid is still elite, but not 1.8 ppg
2. Draisaitl plays on a way more balanced Rocket team, playing the shutdown line with low OZ starts and against top opposition. His TOI is also around 20 mins, compared to 23+ for Strome. Points/ min are similar and when you take Strome away from McDavid they are probably the same
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TOI and Zone starts aren't even tracked. CHLstats site is nice but that TOI stat is not to be trusted. Strome doesn't even play on McDavid's line. Keep making stuff up.
 
HockeyGuruPitka said:
Strome has huge pottential. Great hockey sense, vision, and hands. If he ever does reach his pottential, you could possibly have a franchise center. However pottential and the NHL doesnt always work out. I have fear that his foot speed holds him back from reaching that pottential. Speed really isnt something you can teach.

Mitch Marner would be the safer pick. IMO Marner is almost a lock to be an Elite NHL talent. His speed, hands, IQ make him an electric player. Hes a year younger then Domi and handsdown already better player. Yes he is on the smaller side, however thats not necessarily a pre-requisite to make it in the NHL.

As a leaf fan, i would select Marner at 4/5. Seeing as Mark Hunter is heading the charge this year i cant see the leafs passing on him.
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In Hockey Speed is very muchso something you can teach.

Can you teach them to be Pavel Bure? No, but you certainly teach speed.
 
topchowda said:
Well, that is not taking into account Draisaitl is playing on a shutdown line in Kelowna, and playing 20 mins a night

If you go back to their rookie seasons when both were go to centers playing big offensive minutes, LD scored at a 1.5 ppg pace on a much lower scoring team

Otters: 857 points
Raiders: 657 points

LD on the Otters translates to 138 points (playing with Mcdavid). But context is everything, Strome away from McDavid is a 1.5 ppg player, similar to LD.

Strome is a better prospect, but not miles apart
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Try .90 ppg
 
Jason MacIsaac said:
TOI and Zone starts aren't even tracked. CHLstats site is nice but that TOI stat is not to be trusted. Strome doesn't even play on McDavid's line. Keep making stuff up.
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Eh, its weird but its also possible to watch the games and getting scouting reports for people who watch them
 
FLYguy3911 said:
Try .90 ppg
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Draft eligible year*

or if you want rookie season

Strome: .65 ppg

Not trying to say LD is better, I realize Strome is better. But LD did 1.6 ppg on a team that scored 200 less points than the Otters. They had virtually no talent
 
topchowda said:
Draft eligible year*

or if you want rookie season

Strome: .65 ppg
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You said it not me.

Not to mention Draisaitl was one of the oldest players in his draft class. He put up .90 in his 17 year old season. This is Strome's 17 year old season.
 

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