C Dylan Strome - Erie Otters, OHL (2015 Draft)

[WTFMAN99]

I believe with the Oilers currently sitting at 28th, there's a >50% chance they pick 4th overall.

Do you think they would take Marner then?

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Yak-Draisitl-Marner


Pretty good top 6 for the future.

 

[Leaf19]

What's this obssession with everybody is greater than Draisaitl? First the Bennett thread, now this one.

Maybe they are better than him but the margin is pretty minimal, not enough to say definitively one way or the other.
They are all excellent prospects who are highly skilled and have fairly similar upsides. Why do people feel the need to prop up one prospect by poo pooing another? So freaking annoying.

It's funny that it's now a lot of Leafs fans saying this about Strome now that they are in range of taking him. I think I'd have to stay away from HF for a while if they won the lottery. The gloating and hyping will be unbearable to deal with.

You are taking this way too seriously. Draisaitl is an amazing prospect who was ranked top 5 in an average draft and ended up going 3rd overall. That's fine, it shows how high his potential is.

However, this years top 5 cannot be compared to ANY years top 5 from recent memory. Top 1-2 speak for themselves and 3-5 could very well be first overalls in last years draft. Strome is just a better prospect than Draisaitl which takes away NOTHING from him. He is still amazing in his own right. But as prospects, I have no doubt Strome is the better prospect (so is Marner, I am undecided between Strome/Marner atm)

This isn't shiny new toy syndrome either. Once they're both in the NHL who knows who's gonna be better than the other? But as PROSPECTS there is no doubt who is better.

 

[Fonzieleaf]

I think that last game could've really boosted Strome's draft value. Incredible performance to end the regular season.

 

[CupofOil]

Can we not crap on an entire fan base?

I'm a Leaf fan and I really try to avoid those comparisons. Maybe i'll look at play style, such as thinking Nylander does remind me a bit of Patrick Kane. Do I think they will have a similar career? I can only hope, it's pretty unlikely Nylander makes THAT kind of impact.

The reality is Toronto has a huge fan base, you will get a lot of crazy opinions and thoughts etc. Plenty of fans in other fan bases have even crazier ideas or thoughts, but there is less of them. So while it may be frustrating to hear from people who think Nylander is the next Forsberg or Backstrom, or Rielly is a Scott Neidermayer clone, just know that they do not speak for an entire fan base.

Fair enough. I hate when posters lump all Oiler fans into the same category so I understand where you're coming from.

I just find it a bit annoying to go into the Bennett thread to read up on how he is doing only to see a bunch of Bennett > Draisaitl rhetoric which may be true albeit by a small margin but unnecessary to the purpose of the thread.

Then I come into this thread since I missed the game yesterday to see what people thought of Strome's game only to see AGAIN Strome > Draisaitl rhetoric which again, may be true but unnecessary.

The reality is that these are all players with 1st line upside who bring different strengths and weaknesses to the table.
I actually see a lot of similarities in Strome and Draisaitl's game. Strome is the better skater while Draisaitl is stronger on the puck, both have exceptional vision and underrated shots. Each is average defensively as well. I think Strome is a bit more dynamic which gives him a slight edge IMO.

I think we can all agree that this is a great year to be drafting top 5.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Fair enough. I hate when posters lump all Oiler fans into the same category so I understand where you're coming from.

I just find it a bit annoying to go into the Bennett thread to read up on how he is doing only to see a bunch of Bennett > Draisaitl rhetoric which may be true albeit by a small margin but unnecessary to the purpose of the thread.

Then I come into this thread since I missed the game yesterday to see what people thought of Strome's game only to see AGAIN Strome > Draisaitl rhetoric which again, may be true but unnecessary.

The reality is that these are all players with 1st line upside who bring different strengths and weaknesses to the table.
I actually see a lot of similarities in Strome and Draisaitl's game. Strome is the better skater while Draisaitl is stronger on the puck, both have exceptional vision and underrated shots. Each is average defensively as well. I think Strome is a bit more dynamic which gives him a slight edge IMO.

I think we can all agree that this is a great year to be drafting top 5.

When I see Dylan Strome (watched 4 games this year) - I think about when he fills out, the way he plays the game kind of reminds me of Joe Thornton, only he might shoot a bit more.

I have only seen Draisitl twice this year, but he was in the NHL, and looked a little lost, so I dont think it was the best chance to see him. So I don't think I can offer up fair commentary on how he looks. Great prospect though, Edmonton just needs to give him a couple of years, he looked very raw in the NHL, you can see talent though.

 

[Canovin]

Do you think they would take Marner then?

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Yak-Draisitl-Marner


Pretty good top 6 for the future.

Oilers would take Strome.

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Hall-Strome-X
X-Draisaitl-Yak

 

[MCDAVIDISH]

Oilers would take Strome.

X-RNH-Eberle
Hall-Strome-X
X-Draisaitl-Yak

One of strome or draisaitl maybe can be converted to wing as well.

 

[JSn0w93]

Oilers would take Strome.

X-RNH-Eberle
Hall-Strome-X
X-Draisaitl-Yak

One of strome or draisaitl maybe can be converted to wing as well.

Do you guys think they take Strome over Hanifin?

 

[Canovin]

Do you guys think they take Strome over Hanifin?

Very doubtful.

McDavid
Eichel
Hanifin
Strome
Provorov
Marner

In that order for the Oilers.

 

[Shwaguy*]

I believe with the Oilers currently sitting at 28th, there's a >50% chance they pick 4th overall.

Depends on who's picking 3rd, if it's Arizona I doubt they take Hanifin

 

[Shwaguy*]

So basically even once he is drafted, Dylan Strome could still be sent back to Jr for another 2 seasons? I think i'd do that if the Leafs drafted him, let him be "the man" who carries that team in the OHL for a full season. Some World Jr time and a chance to fill out his frame will be great for him in the long run.

Honestly the only thing he needs to improve is skating, would he be able to work with Underhill while playing in the OHL?

 

[Felstead]

It's okay. If Strome>Draisaitl.

Than Strome>Draisiatl>Nylander.

The best part is there is a very good chance Strome will be an Oiler anyways.

If oilers sit #3 and DON'T take Hanifin then you GM should be shot and p*ssed on.

You really don't need more forwards...Start thinking about damn Defense and tending.

Leafs finish 4th? They better be taking Strome.

 

[w1kitklown*]

Fair enough. I hate when posters lump all Oiler fans into the same category so I understand where you're coming from.

I just find it a bit annoying to go into the Bennett thread to read up on how he is doing only to see a bunch of Bennett > Draisaitl rhetoric which may be true albeit by a small margin but unnecessary to the purpose of the thread.

Then I come into this thread since I missed the game yesterday to see what people thought of Strome's game only to see AGAIN Strome > Draisaitl rhetoric which again, may be true but unnecessary.

The reality is that these are all players with 1st line upside who bring different strengths and weaknesses to the table.
I actually see a lot of similarities in Strome and Draisaitl's game. Strome is the better skater while Draisaitl is stronger on the puck, both have exceptional vision and underrated shots. Each is average defensively as well. I think Strome is a bit more dynamic which gives him a slight edge IMO.

I think we can all agree that this is a great year to be drafting top 5.

So you're fed up with flames fans and fed up with a current prospect who's not drafted by anybody yet. So you decide to lash out against leafs fans lol. You're a winner

 

[Shwaguy*]

Strome is easily above average defensively though, doesn't even need the (For his age) qualifier.

 

[nikyc]

I have to admit, I liked this post.

You tried to make a comparison that he came over to play in another country and had to adjust.

You had to pull and change your original thought (to another continent).

I get the point that NA hockey is different and Strome played against a lot of these guys growing up. But I do like how your thought had to be doctored because Dylan Strome was not playing in his home country either. Not that your point isn't valid, but I liked the tip-toeing

I believe that the Oliers will want a big centermen and maybe move RNH to wing as he is a good setup man too. It all depends on weather they move any forwards prior to or during the draft.

 

[Brewsky]

Kopitar or Giroux who do you want.

 

[Nizdizzle]

Then Strome becomes a slow skating center who < Nylander then the Leafs take Hanifin and all of a sudden Hanifin>Ekblad, Hanifin>Doughty, Hanifin>Orr. It's the endless cycle of prospect pimping that keeps on giving.

In fairness though, all Canadian fanbases overrate their players to some extent.

Is an Oilers fan really giving flack to another team for overrating their players/prospects?

All the Canadian fanbases are equally stupid with overrating their own teams prospects. You probably can't look at your own fanbase objectively if you think otherwise.

(Note: Pitchforks away, I can call Canadian fanbases stupid because I belong to one)

 

[TheGroceryStick]

I think there is a very good possibility that a team trades up to land Oilers pick if they see McDavid, Eichel and Hanifin gone.

They would be smart to gain a bit of assets and trade down 2-3 spots for Provorov / Werenski or Crouse (nicer fitting players)

Now would a team at 7-8 want to trade up for Strome/Marner?

Could see NJ packaging a 2nd or prospect to make the leap to 4.

 

[Hunters Rule]

Depends on who's picking 3rd, if it's Arizona I doubt they take Hanifin

Unless a higher place team wins the lottery Arizona might not win another game(they play Buf 2 times *maybe some points here*, home and away after that the teams they play a lot better than the Yotes) I think Edm can possibly win or get points in 5 or 6 of these games.


*Winnipeg at Edm, *Colorado at Edm, *Dallas at Edm, *Edm at Colorado in March.
Edm at Anaheim, Edm at Los Angeles, *Calgary at Edm, Los Angeles at Edm, *San Jose at Edm, Edm at Vancouver in April.

As of March 23rd Edm 53 pts. to Ari 50 pts.
Either way I hope this all falls into place and we end up with Marner, though I would be very happy with Strome or we actually win the lottery(McYes).

 

[Hunters Rule]

I think there is a very good possibility that a team trades up to land Oilers pick if they see McDavid, Eichel and Hanifin gone.

They would be smart to gain a bit of assets and trade down 2-3 spots for Provorov / Werenski or Crouse (nicer fitting players)

Now would a team at 7-8 want to trade up for Strome/Marner?

Could see NJ packaging a 2nd or prospect to make the leap to 4.

In this Draft it will likely take a mid(15 to 25) 2016 1st or low 2015 1st(25 to 30) plus the 7/8th 2015 1st to move up to 4th 2015 1st.

 

[Shwaguy*]

Kopitar or Giroux who do you want.

I think Strome is a bit more of a goalscorer than Kopitar, he plays like Mats for me. (If we drafted him and he ever reached Kopi or Sundin's level that'd obviously be ideal.

 

[Neatman]

I believe that the Oliers will want a big centermen and maybe move RNH to wing as he is a good setup man too. It all depends on weather they move any forwards prior to or during the draft.

Not to jump down your throat, but RNH is a #1C in the NHL at the age of 21, and has the perfect skillset for a C. I have no idea why you think he would every play wing.
Draisaitl is already the big C they want to round out their top 6 (eventually).

Edmonton will draft:
McD
Eichel
Hanifan
Strome/Best D
In that order of opportunity.
This is probably the first draft I could see them trading down if they end up drafting 4th.

 

[GoldiFox]

In this Draft it will likely take a mid(15 to 25) 2016 1st or low 2015 1st(25 to 30) plus the 7/8th 2015 1st to move up to 4th 2015 1st.

I don't see any team dropping out of the top-5 barring a major overpayment. Not worth losing a typical #1 OA prospect for a typical top-5 prospect plus a lottery ticket.

The Canes would be happy to package LA's 15-20 OA (hopeful) + 5th OA for Eichel though. Again, not likely to happen in this Draft.

 

[w1kitklown*]

Not to jump down your throat, but RNH is a #1C in the NHL at the age of 21, and has the perfect skillset for a C. I have no idea why you think he would every play wing.
Draisaitl is already the big C they want to round out their top 6 (eventually).

Edmonton will draft:
McD
Eichel
Hanifan
Strome/Best D
In that order of opportunity.
This is probably the first draft I could see them trading down if they end up drafting 4th.

Edmonton should be given the 30th overall pick as a penalty for tanking so many consecutive seasons

 

[1972]

He looked like Jonathan Toews on that second goal.

He is only just scratching the surface on what he can become, wait until he puts on 15 pounds of muscle and improves his skating, he will be unstoppable at that level.

He isn't Eichel or McDavid, but it's not crazy to suggest 5 years down the road that gap is far smaller then it is now if his development goes how I think it will. Unlike alot of prospects there isn't really a ceiling on what he can become.

I think he is a rather safe bet to be a top 30 C in the NHL, the question is whether he becomes good or great.