C Dylan Strome - Erie Otters, OHL (2015 Draft)

[Aceboogie]

Are you saying you track zone starts and TOI yourself?

No, I am saying everybody who follows the Rockets makes that assessment, so I will trust scouting

You said it not me.

Not to mention Draisaitl was one of the oldest players in his draft class. He put up .90 in his 17 year old season. This is Strome's 17 year old season.

2nd season in OHL. I wont even get into the coming from Germany vs playing better minor midget here argument. But not like LD had good training as a 16 YO

I wont even argue Strome vs Draisaitl, because both could be Oilers in a couple months Itll just be funny to come back to this thread and see how everyone has turned

"Strome and LD are both bad prospects, Strome carried by strong team* etc

I think both are great prospects and will be #1cs wherever they go

 

[Zaddy]

You said it not me.

Not to mention Draisaitl was one of the oldest players in his draft class. He put up .90 in his 17 year old season. This is Strome's 17 year old season.

And Draisaitl came over from Germany (from a bad hockey program while Strome played for arguably the best in the world with the Marlies) and had to adjust to living on a different continent far away from family and friends and learning the North American game, but that's OK to ignore as long as it fits your argument right?

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

Eh, its weird but its also possible to watch the games and getting scouting reports for people who watch them

You must really have quite a few insiders...

 

[FLYguy3911]

And Draisaitl came over from Germany (from a bad hockey program while Strome played for arguably the best in the world with the Marlies) and had to adjust to living on a different continent far away from family and friends and learning the North American game, but that's OK to ignore as long as it fits your argument right?

Lol what? I wasn't even making an argument. I was just correcting another poster trying to claim Draisaitl put up 1.5 ppg in his rookie year. I get all the factors but he's not the only guy out there adjusting to the league. You compare their 17 year old season's, Strome doubled Draisaitl's ppg average. No matter what you argue it doesn't make up for the difference.

 

[Zaddy]

Lol what? I wasn't even making an argument. I was just correcting another poster trying to claim Draisaitl put up 1.5 ppg in his rookie year. I get all the factors but he's not the only guy out there adjusting to the league. You compare their 17 year old season's, Strome doubled Draisaitl's ppg average. No matter what you argue it doesn't make up for the difference.

It doesn't work like that. In their rookie seasons Draisaitl outscored Strome and in their 2nd season Strome outscored Draisaitl but played on a much better team. Anything else than that (regarding age) is irrelevant.

And no, he didn't try to claim he did it in his rookie year but rather his draft-eligible year, which he also corrected in a later post.

You must really have quite a few insiders...

Or, you know, all that information is here on HFboards to read from people who watch every Kelowna game. Or you can just watch the games yourself and come to the same conclusion if you don't believe them. It's pretty simple.

 

[Pi]

Why are we discussing Strome and Drai? Strome is a better skater and talent. Draisaitl doesn't got top 5 or maybe even top 6 because Provorov is an enticing prospect too.

 

[FLYguy3911]

It doesn't work like that. In their rookie seasons Draisaitl outscored Strome and in their 2nd season Strome outscored Draisaitl but played on a much better team. Anything else than that (regarding age) is irrelevant.

There we have it folks. Age is irrelevant.

Talk about fitting your argument.

 

[MCDAVIDISH]

Pointless arguments going on in here, kind of ahead of the game to be comparing two players in two different situations who have yet to cement themselves in the nhl. It's silly to form such strong statements in favor of one or the other at his point. It's possible to have an opinion of course but ppl who come right in with way too much conviction are way ahead of themselves.

 

[Zaddy]

There we have it folks. Age is irrelevant.

Talk about fitting your argument.

Yes, that's obviously what I meant. Again you take things out of context just as long as you can write some snarky comment. You're the type of person who's just gonna come up with stupid stuff just as long as you get to be "right". Pointless discussing with someone like that. I'm done. Congrats or something.

 

[Sundinisagod]

A couple sick snipes in their. Wow

Wow indeed.

 

[WTFMAN99]

So basically even once he is drafted, Dylan Strome could still be sent back to Jr for another 2 seasons? I think i'd do that if the Leafs drafted him, let him be "the man" who carries that team in the OHL for a full season. Some World Jr time and a chance to fill out his frame will be great for him in the long run.

 

[The Podium]

So basically even once he is drafted, Dylan Strome could still be sent back to Jr for another 2 seasons? I think i'd do that if the Leafs drafted him, let him be "the man" who carries that team in the OHL for a full season. Some World Jr time and a chance to fill out his frame will be great for him in the long run.

After an entire offseason with Underhill he may be ready for the NHL. I wouldn't be opposed to him going back to junior for a year letting Strome and Nylander come up together sharing the spotlight, but if he comes into camp and makes a statement then I could see him starting the year with the big club.

 

[WTFMAN99]

After an entire offseason with Underhill he may be ready for the NHL. I wouldn't be opposed to him going back to junior for a year letting Strome and Nylander come up together sharing the spotlight, but if he comes into camp and makes a statement then I could see him starting the year with the big club.

I would never start him in the NHL if he was drafted by us.

I give him the full JR experience. It worked out well for Ryan.

 

[613Leafer]

So basically even once he is drafted, Dylan Strome could still be sent back to Jr for another 2 seasons? I think i'd do that if the Leafs drafted him, let him be "the man" who carries that team in the OHL for a full season. Some World Jr time and a chance to fill out his frame will be great for him in the long run.

Leafs are likely a dumster fire next season. I say if we draft Strome, we leave him in Junior for a year. He still has things to learn anyways.

He's yet to be THE go-to guy on his team, which he would be next season. Plus there's always room for improvement in skating, overall defensive play, and muscle to be added.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Leafs are likely a dumster fire next season. I say if we draft Strome, we leave him in Junior for a year. He still has things to learn anyways.

He's yet to be THE go-to guy on his team, which he would be next season. Plus there's always room for improvement in skating, overall defensive play, and muscle to be added.

Yeah if we got Strome i'd give him the 2 years of JR post draft and if he's good to go, then he can come onto our team.

I think the World Jrs, Being the go-to guy, working on his skating, muscle, and defensive play will be important.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Strome > Draisaitl...

 

[CupofOil]

What's this obssession with everybody is greater than Draisaitl? First the Bennett thread, now this one.

Maybe they are better than him but the margin is pretty minimal, not enough to say definitively one way or the other.
They are all excellent prospects who are highly skilled and have fairly similar upsides. Why do people feel the need to prop up one prospect by poo pooing another? So freaking annoying.

It's funny that it's now a lot of Leafs fans saying this about Strome now that they are in range of taking him. I think I'd have to stay away from HF for a while if they won the lottery. The gloating and hyping will be unbearable to deal with.

 

[Aceonfire*]

What's this obssession with everybody is greater than Draisaitl? First the Bennett thread, now this one.

Maybe they are better than him but the margin is pretty minimal, not enough to say definitively one way or the other.
They are all excellent prospects who are highly skilled and have fairly similar upsides. Why do people feel the need to prop up one prospect by poo pooing another? So freaking annoying.

It's funny that it's now a lot of Leafs fans saying this about Strome now that they are in range of taking him. I think I'd have to stay away from HF for a while if they won the lottery. The gloating and hyping will be unbearable to deal with.

It's okay. If Strome>Draisaitl.

Than Strome>Draisiatl>Nylander.

The best part is there is a very good chance Strome will be an Oiler anyways.

 

[WTFMAN99]

What's this obssession with everybody is greater than Draisaitl? First the Bennett thread, now this one.

Maybe they are better than him but the margin is pretty minimal, not enough to say definitively one way or the other.
They are all excellent prospects who are highly skilled and have fairly similar upsides. Why do people feel the need to prop up one prospect by poo pooing another? So freaking annoying.

It's funny that it's now a lot of Leafs fans saying this about Strome now that they are in range of taking him. I think I'd have to stay away from HF for a while if they won the lottery. The gloating and hyping will be unbearable to deal with.

I think Draisitl will be a good player. Not gonna bother making comparisons. I do think the Oilers screwed this year up royally for him development wise.

I think he's gonna need 1-3 years (hard to say) but he'll be a solid NHLer for Edmonton.

 

[WTFMAN99]

It's okay. If Strome>Draisaitl.

Than Strome>Draisiatl>Nylander.

The best part is there is a very good chance Strome will be an Oiler anyways.

I can't see it.

If Oilers are 2nd last - They take Eichel - you have to

If the Oilers get to 3rd overall - If they pass on Hanifin, i'll be shocked.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

And Draisaitl came over from Germany (from a bad hockey program while Strome played for arguably the best in the world with the Marlies) and had to adjust to living on a different continent far away from family and friends and learning the North American game, but that's OK to ignore as long as it fits your argument right?

I have to admit, I liked this post.

You tried to make a comparison that he came over to play in another country and had to adjust.

You had to pull and change your original thought (to another continent).

I get the point that NA hockey is different and Strome played against a lot of these guys growing up. But I do like how your thought had to be doctored because Dylan Strome was not playing in his home country either. Not that your point isn't valid, but I liked the tip-toeing

 

[CupofOil]

It's okay. If Strome>Draisaitl.

Than Strome>Draisiatl>Nylander.

The best part is there is a very good chance Strome will be an Oiler anyways.

Then Strome becomes a slow skating center who < Nylander then the Leafs take Hanifin and all of a sudden Hanifin>Ekblad, Hanifin>Doughty, Hanifin>Orr. It's the endless cycle of prospect pimping that keeps on giving.

In fairness though, all Canadian fanbases overrate their players to some extent.

 

[dustrock]

I can't see it.

If Oilers are 2nd last - They take Eichel - you have to

If the Oilers get to 3rd overall - If they pass on Hanifin, i'll be shocked.

I believe with the Oilers currently sitting at 28th, there's a >50% chance they pick 4th overall.

 

[Leaf19]

Maybe if we get Dylan Strome he can remind his brother of their childhood dream

 

[WTFMAN99]

Then Strome becomes a slow skating center who <Nylander then the Leafs take Hanifin and all of a sudden Hanifin>Ekblad, Hanifin>Doughty, Hanifin>Orr. It's the endless cycle of prospect pimping that keeps on giving.

Can we not crap on an entire fan base?

I'm a Leaf fan and I really try to avoid those comparisons. Maybe i'll look at play style, such as thinking Nylander does remind me a bit of Patrick Kane. Do I think they will have a similar career? I can only hope, it's pretty unlikely Nylander makes THAT kind of impact.

The reality is Toronto has a huge fan base, you will get a lot of crazy opinions and thoughts etc. Plenty of fans in other fan bases have even crazier ideas or thoughts, but there is less of them. So while it may be frustrating to hear from people who think Nylander is the next Forsberg or Backstrom, or Rielly is a Scott Neidermayer clone, just know that they do not speak for an entire fan base.