C Connor McDavid - Erie Otters, OHL (2015 Draft) V

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Yeah there hasn't really been any change in his play. I wouldn't look too much into the slight drop off in his production.
 

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And sadly people will look at putting up 5 points on a terrible team as a greater accomplishment than when he "only" scores 2 points against much better teams.

That's ludicrous. People need to realize that Crosby also scores most of his points against weaker teams and is below his career PPg against the better teams.
 

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That's ludicrous. People need to realize that Crosby also scores most of his points against weaker teams and is below his career PPg against the better teams.
You're obviously not following. McDavid has been putting up 1-2 points on some of the best teams in the O and people are trying to act like he's struggling. He puts up 5 on one of the worst teams and those same people will act like he's back. He never went anywhere teams just stacked up at the deadline.
 

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OK so what's the truth?

I asked about his lack of production and Finnished, Tycho, and Brandonholmes all indicated that he's not trying all that hard or he's become bored.

I then raised this lack of effort/boredom as a potential issue, and now TanksPavs and SAK11 claim he's been playing hard and was just over performing earlier in the season.

So is a 2.8 PPG player who is just bored/ disinterested? Or is he more like the 2.1 PPG player he has been since the WJCs?

I never once said he was over performing. I just purely think he has had some bad luck over this span. He's probably generating a similar amount of chances as he was at the beginning of the season. I think, at normal consistency, he's around a 2.6/2.7 point producer.
 

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my mistake, 92 points so he is 11 behind Marner.

both teams have 12 games remaining. I don't think he will catch Marner but he is making it much closer than I expected.

Must be nice to be DeBrincat. Might even get drafted.

all depends on what he does next season after McDavid is gone. Of all of Erie's forwards I think he plays the best with McDavid.
 

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I'm not questioning his dominance, I'm asking about his competitiveness really. In comparison to Sid, he never got bored winning, where as the comments in this thread makes it sounds like McDavid has. That would be far more concerning than his drop in productivity.

Not familiar with the concept of sample sizes, eh? 17 games is nothing when you're just looking at points. The drop could be due to a bad schedule, bad luck, his injury, coaching, or any number of factors. You might want to wait until the end of the season and then see where he's at buddy.
 

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Not familiar with the concept of sample sizes, eh? 17 games is nothing when you're just looking at points. The drop could be due to a bad schedule, bad luck, his injury, coaching, or any number of factors. You might want to wait until the end of the season and then see where he's at buddy.

I'm a mathematician. A 25% drop in production with 15 degrees of freedom is bordering on significant
 

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92 points, 12 games to spare. 9 of 12 are against 4th-11th in the OHL.

Vs Guelph
@ Owen Sound
@ Owen Sound
Vs Barrie
@ Barrie
@ North Bay
Vs Niagara
Vs Windsor
Vs Kitchener
@ Windsor
@ Plymouth
@ Niagara

2.00 PPG against top-8 teams (Guelph, BarrieX2, North Bay), 3.00 PPG against 9th-11th (Owen SoundX2, NiagaraX2, Kitchener), and 4.00 PPG against creampuffs (WindsorX2, Plymouth) leaves McDavid with 127 points (92+8+15+12).
 

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So am I, and the fact you consider games to be independent shows to me that you're probably some undergraduate who maybe took a stats class or two. :shakehead

You'd be wrong, 'buddy'. But it wouldn't be the first time.

Funny how the personal attacks come out when simple, non-threatening questions are asked about McDavid's play. Tells me all I need to know about your maturity and level of insecurity.
 

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Any chance he ends up first in scoring?

I could see him having a 6 or 7 point game before the season is over.

Taking the scoring title while missing 20 games would be pretty amazing.
 

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Whiskeyyourthedevils has been boosting Eichel and doing all he can to crap on McDavid, so I wouldn't take anything he says too seriously.

Any chance he ends up first in scoring?

I could see him having a 6 or 7 point game before the season is over.

Taking the scoring title while missing 20 games would be pretty amazing.

He'll be in tough. He's 11 points back of the league lead and Marner is doing well. He might be able to scratch up to second or third, which would still be amazing.
 
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McDavid was originally awarded four assists for what would have been a career high six-point game but he told the referee Remi Elie deserved one of them and it was taken away.

Oh Captain my captain. I think from here he goes into beast mode, but ultimately Erie will lose in the OHL semi-final to the Greyhounds. I only hope it's in time to hop on a plane and zip off to Europe for one more head to head with Jack before the draft.
 

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Whiskeyyourthedevils has been boosting Eichel and doing all he can to crap on McDavid, so I wouldn't take anything he says too seriously.

Don't know about the Eichel stuff but this poster is far from anything close to a McDavid detractor.

Maybe because he asks objective questions or makes objective comments.

If people are going to focus on PPG and make comparisons to Crosby, you are bound to get differing perspectives.

On topic, while he is making a case for the best draft eligible prospect since Crosby does anyone worry his skills won't translate as well? He seems to thrive with time and space which will be a lot less in the NHL than in junior.
 

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Don't know about the Eichel stuff but this poster is far from anything close to a McDavid detractor.

Maybe because he asks objective questions or makes objective comments.

If people are going to focus on PPG and make comparisons to Crosby, you are bound to get differing perspectives.

On topic, while he is making a case for the best draft eligible prospect since Crosby does anyone worry his skills won't translate as well? He seems to thrive with time and space which will be a lot less in the NHL than in junior.

asking objective questions on this site and expecting an objective answer in return? That's rich!! may as well as third graders their views on wormholes. The mathematician has previously stated he watches a significant amount of CHL, so maybe he should tune into a few more Erie games in between his busy sched and time dedicated to this site and draw his own conclusions as to the level of McDavid's play post WJHC. seems to me that would be a better plan than relying on HF posters. The only useful info one can glean from HF are injury updates and pending suspensions...everything else I can come with on my own by watching and ignoring the subjective gobbledygook.
 
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Maybe he read my sarcastic comment about 3-4 point games being pointless :laugh: I think he will be 1-3 points out of the scoring lead when it's all said and done. He could even win it but only if Marner etc slow down a bit.
 
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