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C Connor McDavid - Erie Otters, OHL (2015 Draft) II

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DEVILS130 said:
Barring some unforeseen roster shakeup, he's bound to be a Devil in two years
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I was thinking the other night he will probably end up a Devil. Lou is pretty old school though. I think he will make some roster moves that keep the Devils out of the basement. If he doesn't it could be between Buffalo and New Jersey for worst record next year.
 
DEVILS130 said:
Barring some unforeseen roster shakeup, he's bound to be a Devil in two years
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Give me a break. Good luck with that.

there are going to be 10 teams trying to win the cup in 2014-15 .

Thus there wil be TWENTY teams all trying to go 0-82.

:laugh:
 
Lebowski said:
Crosby was in his first year in the CHL as well, while both Tavares and McDavid are/were on their second.
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Still very impressive. He's the youngest, two years pre-draft, between himself, Crosby, and Tavares. I wouldn't make any claims that he's going to be the next Crosby, or better than Crosby, but I would not say it's impossble; just unlikely.
 
He had a rough start, and I fully expect his ppg totals to go up by quite a bit. This kid is unreal. I don't care if there isn't any empirical data to back up my claim, I don't care if you all think I'm an idiot, I think he is better than Crosby. This kid is it, he is the generational talent we've been waiting for.
 
LOLKarlsson said:
He had a rough start, and I fully expect his ppg totals to go up by quite a bit. This kid is unreal. I don't care if there isn't any empirical data to back up my claim, I don't care if you all think I'm an idiot, I think he is better than Crosby. This kid is it, he is the generational talent we've been waiting for.
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Ofc he is/will be better then Crosby; or at least he looks like it. But then again, Crosby doesn't look that impressive in the first place, and yet somehow he is quite good... despite his mediocre outlook.
 
These comparisons to Crosby are getting so ridiculous and even annoying, that every comparison makes me want to hope he becomes the biggest draft flop since Stefan/Daigle. :sarcasm:
 
Loffer said:
Ofc he is/will be better then Crosby; or at least he looks like it. But then again, Crosby doesn't look that impressive in the first place, and yet somehow he is quite good... despite his mediocre outlook.
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lol pardon me
 
NightBlazer said:
Stylistically he can definitely be the most exciting player in the world, even if he doesn't end up quite as good as Crosby.
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I find this a strange comment, to me he plays a pretty similar style to Crosby, but not quite as skilled, or as naturally strong on the puck. Stylistically I see them both as relentless puck hounds with very high end skill in all regards, elite hockey IQ, but not a tonne of flash despite their massive talent. He really does not play a flashier game than Crosby, he's a puck possession guy who's good at everything and who always makes the right moves. Basically Crosby, but not as good, to me that is not more exciting.

Also, re: all the Crosby comparisons, I think people are forgetting just how good Crosby was as a prospect. McDavid looks outstanding, one of the best prospects since Crosby, I love watching him and can't wait to see him in the NHL. Still, have people already forgot how ****ing amazing Sid was at the same age?


CHL rookie years:

Crosby: in 03/04, Crosby's rookie season in the Q, he lead the entire CHL in scoring. He put up 135 points in 59 games, and was the QMJHL MVP. Corey Locke (OHL) was 2nd in the CHL in scoring, well behind Crosby with 118 points in 65 games. Crosby was dominant to a simply insane degree for such a young player.

McDavid: last year McDavid was a CHL rookie, and was a bit younger than Crosby was in his rookie season, but not way younger or anything (5 months younger). He was a good player, but was not even close to the best player in the OHL, nevermind the CHL. He put up 66 points in 60 games, good for 30th in the OHL in scoring, and 2nd on his own team. In the CHL overall he was tied for 103rd in scoring. He was a good player, he definitely had an impressive rookie season, but come on, Crosby was insanely better in his rookie season, and was just 5 months older.


2nd CHL seasons:

Crosby: in 04/05, Crosby's 2nd year in the Q, he was even more dominant. He put up a ridiculous 168 points in 62 games, the most in the CHL by an absolutely massive margin. Corey Perry (OHL) was 2nd, with 130 points in 60 games, and Perry himself was way ahead of 3rd place (3rd and 4th were actually Crosby's linemates, who were mediocre players getting absolutely carried by Sid).

McDavid: so far he's got 30 points in 17 games, which places him 5th in the OHL in scoring, and 2nd on his own team (6 points behind Connor Brown). In the CHL as a whole he's 13th in scoring. He's one of the best players in the CHL, but Crosby was the best player in the league as a rookie, and the best in the league by an absolutely massive margin in his 2nd year, McDavid is really not that close at all.


If you took Crosby at the same age, made him a weaker on the puck, and not quite as skilled in general, you'd have McDavid. Again, that is not an insult to McDavid. He's a completely elite prospect, but it's borderline insane for people to say that he's as good (or better!) than Crosby at the same age, he's WAY below where Crosby was. I personally think Crosby is the best prospect the league has seen in the last 20 drafts (since Lemieux in 1984). McDavid is great, but I wouldn't say he's clearly better than other recent #1s like Tavares, Hall, MacKinnon, etc., and none of these guys were particularly close to Crosby as prospects.
 
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I just find McDavid to be smoother in skating and stickhandling. Very fluid and graceful, which doesn't necessarily translate to more points but it's more aesthetically pleasing. His hands are Datsyukian; Crosby's aren't.

Crosby's skating I find similar to Hall's in that he's fast and explosive, but it looks the opposite of effortless. McDavid looks like he's gliding or flying effortlessly.
 
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NightBlazer said:
I just find McDavid to be smoother in skating and stickhandling. Very fluid and graceful, which doesn't necessarily translate to more points but it's more aesthetically pleasing. His hands are Datsyukian; Crosby's aren't.

Crosby's skating I find similar to Hall's in that he's fast and explosive, but it looks the opposite of effortless. McDavid looks like he's gliding or flying effortlessly.
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This. And I have always found it strange that the world's best hockey player does look so unimpressive, no flash, no smooth stickhandling, no graceful skating... But yet he is the best - or at least almost as good as Malkin. - Hence, McDavid looking "much better" doesn't have to mean anything in terms of production. Crosby is an enigma.
 
Crosby's stickhandling, shooting and passing skills are obviously at a very high level but there are guys in the league that can match it. What separates Crosby from the rest is his ability to play at a higher tempo than everyone else. I think it's basically impossible to know if McDavid has that before he plays in the NHL, either way he's going to be one hell of a player.
 
helicecopter said:
well i guess we disagree.. to me, Hall for example never looked even close to McDavid.
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I watched all those it's live, Tavares for the 4 years he was in Oshawa and I think mcdavid is ahead of him for sure, his hockey sense separates him from all the guys listed above
 
I think the safest thing to say would just be that McDavid looks like the best prospect since Crosby.
 
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