Skinnyjimmy08
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hahah it was too tempting not to jump on the Dard Train lol... i agree its PATHETIC
how about when he lights up a goalie or a dman they say "Its Bed-time for ...."
lol
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C Connor Bedard - Regina Pats, WHL (2023 Draft) Part 3
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hahah it was too tempting not to jump on the Dard Train lol... i agree its PATHETIC
how about when he lights up a goalie or a dman they say "Its Bed-time for ...."
lol
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His teammates probably started it. Sounds like something a kid would call another kid.
Still, it's pretty bad.
That's what it sounds like, yeah. Or my mind at least constantly makes the connection. I'd feel so weird calling someone that. Especially if they're not my close friend or something.
I really try to shed away from player comps as each player is really unique but this one is kind of close IMO.
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Would it be a stretch to say that Bedard is going to be the best player to be drafted since McDavid? He looks lethal out there.
He’s amazing, but I personally doubt he ends up better than Matthews. Matthews has very comparable shooting/skating/hands/instincts, but is 6’3”.
Best since Matthews though, decent shot to be that.
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I agree. I sadly feel the height thing will hold him back unless he grows a few inches.
Does Bedard even have a better shot than Matthews? And that's Bedard's strongest asset. It really would be a lot to ask, I'd say.
I don't know if his shot is better as Matthews is arguably one of the best shooters in the NHL right now but I think Bedard process the game a little better and has subtle small moves and is a different player style wise than Matthews.
...and dont forget that we talking about a 16 years old Bedard...
I have seen Matthews play at 16 in the world juniors...and he was good but not as good as Bedard.
The best 16 years old that I have seen and it's not even close..is Sidney Crosby with Rimouski...135 points in 62 games..
..a dominant force and was named the best junior player in Canada that season ...at 16...
Mcdavid never did it...and Bedard will not do it either...and Bedard will not do 102 points in the NHL at 18 either...no offense to Bedard that I like a lot
Hey, welcome to HFBoards, you will find this type of behavior between all fanbases in the NHL. Not just nationalities. Also you own username quote contains a bias towards Bedard, nullifying your argument. But hey at least you're on the right side of the coin, Bedard will be a generational animal.
I think #1 was his all along even with the slow start... He's playing on a piss team and he always was head and shoulder above the rest of the 05 class but Mitchkov
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Correct, he's on fire
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That's just ridiculous, especially considering his age and team. His stats are looking good, and let's not forget he had a slow start for his standards. He has taken off in december and he hasn't looked back since.
That's 16 year old Crosby level dominance. Pretty nutty considering his lack of offensive support. He was due for a hot streak like this, just based on shooting percentages, so he'll probably start to cool off eventually, but it's still crazy impressive.
If you add in the WJC games, its 22g 41p in 16gp!
Better hands, skating, and overall playmaking ability it wouldn't surprise me if he is better than matthews seems to have more drive too
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I don't want to hijack this thread but I think Matthews' ability/skill level is being a bit undersold here. The guy does a million feints a game to get into a better position to shoot or make a play. He also has the most deceptive shot in the league. All of that in a 6'3" 220 lbs. frame. Not saying Bedard isn't at that level but what Matthews does is pretty remarkable.
Not sure I'd say he has better hands than Matthews. Matthews has some of the softest goal scoring hands I've ever seen, and could absolutely dangle junior defenders. He was also a very underrated playmaker.
I'm a huge fan of Bedard, but I think he's probably closer to a Matthews level prospect than McDavid / Crosby.
I would agree but lately at least to me he put his game together even more hands are probably wash(lol) but to me he seems to create more space and opportunities than matthews did at the same age but shiny new toy syndrome but either way ending up matthews level is still amazing means he would be arguably a top 5 player not just forward and as an aside Matthews did have a more complete 200 foot game compared to bedard
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Crazy how everyone was talking about his slow start. Seems like the WJC really set him on fire. Good confidence boost for the kid.
A few things I have noticed from watching all Bedard's games since World Juniors:
1) He is still snake-bitten relative to the amount of chances he creates each game. He creates numerous point blank opportunities for his teammates each game that just aren't being converted at the rate they should be.
2) His shots/game have increased a little bit but he is definitely looking "shot first" less and doing a much better job of evaluating his options and making the higher probability play. This has been especially evident on the PP where he was guilty of cannibalizing the attack with his high shot volume. Now he is playing much more within the unit, making the simple play (with the occasional bullet seam pass), and letting the play come to him.
3) He is changing the pace he plays at much more frequently. Earlier in the season he was playing at full speed at all times - he would try to blow by opposing D and if they hung with him he would attack them 1-1 (which was actually working more than it should have). Now he still comes at the D hard but if he doesn't have a step or the D's feet in a bad spot, he just backs them into the zone and slows up, looking to hit a trailing teammate with a pass.
Also of note - over the last 14 games he has 18 goals on 84 shots for a 21.4% shooting %. The 4 players above him in WHL scoring have an average season long shooting % of 20.8%. The point is, I would not view the last 14 games as some hot streak outlier performance that should regress significantly. The beginning of the season is the outlier cold streak, the last 14 games should be used as proxy for what to expect for production the rest of the season.
It should be an entertaining finish to the season now that he has entered the WHL scoring race conversation. My prediction is that he will lead the league in goals and finish top 5 in points (Stankoven will be hard to catch). It's a shame that Bedard doesn't have even a little bit more of a supporting cast so they he doesn't have to create absolutely everything on his own but it is what it is.
1) He is still snake-bitten relative to the amount of chances he creates each game. He creates numerous point blank opportunities for his teammates each game that just aren't being converted at the rate they should be.
2) His shots/game have increased a little bit but he is definitely looking "shot first" less and doing a much better job of evaluating his options and making the higher probability play. This has been especially evident on the PP where he was guilty of cannibalizing the attack with his high shot volume. Now he is playing much more within the unit, making the simple play (with the occasional bullet seam pass), and letting the play come to him.
3) He is changing the pace he plays at much more frequently. Earlier in the season he was playing at full speed at all times - he would try to blow by opposing D and if they hung with him he would attack them 1-1 (which was actually working more than it should have). Now he still comes at the D hard but if he doesn't have a step or the D's feet in a bad spot, he just backs them into the zone and slows up, looking to hit a trailing teammate with a pass.
Also of note - over the last 14 games he has 18 goals on 84 shots for a 21.4% shooting %. The 4 players above him in WHL scoring have an average season long shooting % of 20.8%. The point is, I would not view the last 14 games as some hot streak outlier performance that should regress significantly. The beginning of the season is the outlier cold streak, the last 14 games should be used as proxy for what to expect for production the rest of the season.
It should be an entertaining finish to the season now that he has entered the WHL scoring race conversation. My prediction is that he will lead the league in goals and finish top 5 in points (Stankoven will be hard to catch). It's a shame that Bedard doesn't have even a little bit more of a supporting cast so they he doesn't have to create absolutely everything on his own but it is what it is.
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I assume certain kids were affected by Covid more than others. I also assume all the kids will eventually find their way.
The only thing holding this kid back is his size. If he can overcome it, God bless him. I hope her does.
Mitch Brown (from EP) wrote an article on Bedard's "slow" start, concluding that he was basically just unlucky in terms of production. Brown tracks scoring chances, passes creating scoring chances, etc. and said that Bedard, for all of this season, was basically breaking his charts by how dominant he was in those areas. Puck just wasn't going in for him.
Not sure it was really covid, but just not great puck luck. He's getting some now and torching the league.
