C Connor Bedard (2023, 1st, CHI) Part 6

[BluesyShoes]

PLEASE tell me there aren't posters ripping into the kid's game already. Come on.

You do know pre-season is short for premonition season, right?

 

[ORRFForever]

You do know pre-season is short for premonition season, right?

Yup. If Bedard busts, posters want to be sure they can say, "I said he would bust FIRST !!!"

 

[Gold Standard]

So, with his per diem in pocket it is "here we go boys/girls Here we go."

The season is about to drop. Finally! It's here!

 

[bigdog16]

Yup. If Bedard busts, posters want to be sure they can say, "I said he would bust FIRST !!!"

I don't think he busts. But I definitely don't think he is going to put up 50 goals like many here are convinced. I think 30/30 would be a good year

 

[ORRFForever]

I don't think he busts. But I definitely don't think he is going to put up 50 goals like many here are convinced. I think 30/30 would be a good year

I assume you mean his rookie year.

 

[ORRFForever]

So, with his per diem in pocket it is "here we go boys/girls Here we go."

The season is about to drop. Finally! It's here!

Go to Bedard's first game - take the money out of petty cash. Then, when your boss screams, "Who the <bleep> took $1,000 out of petty cash and left a Chicago Blackhawks ticket stub behind", you can blame Tibor...

 

[bigdog16]

I assume you mean his rookie year.

Yes i think a 30/30 roomie year would be a good year given the team thats around him. People pegging him as a PPG player from the get go are setting unrealstic expectations. He may not even hit that in year 2. I would write him in as a PPG guy by year 3 though

 

[BoHorvat 53]

Yes i think a 30/30 roomie year would be a good year given the team thats around him. People pegging him as a PPG player from the get go are setting unrealstic expectations. He may not even hit that in year 2. I would write him in as a PPG guy by year 3 though

If he is who we think he is, I think a PPG season (Or something close to that) should be the expectation. I'm comparing him to Crosby/McDavid, since his draft season rivals what they did, but those 2 put up PPG seasons.

 

[authentic]

If he is who we think he is, I think a PPG season (Or something close to that) should be the expectation. I'm comparing him to Crosby/McDavid, since his draft season rivals what they did, but those 2 put up PPG seasons.

Crosby was 6th in points his rookie year and McDavid was 3rd in points per game. With the way scoring has gone up a point per game season now would be good for 25th-30th in points, which would still be an incredible season. Personally I think he is capable of 90 this season, and somewhere around 40 goals. That still wouldn't be quite at the level of Crosby or McDavid but it wouldn't be too far off.

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38 players had a point per game last season and 3 more had .99

I can easily see an 80-90 point season from Bedard even if he ends up having a somewhat slow start in his first 20 games.

 

[authentic]

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Look at McDavid's rookie season. Nearly everyone in the NHL was under a point per game and Patrick Kane basically stood alone with his 106 point season that year. No one else was a clearly better offensive player than McDavid.

 

[BoHorvat 53]

Crosby was 6th in points his rookie year and McDavid was 3rd in points per game. With the way scoring has gone up a point per game season now would be good for 25th-30th in points, which would still be an incredible season. Personally I think he is capable of 90 this season, and somewhere around 40 goals. That still wouldn't be quite at the level of Crosby or McDavid but it wouldn't be too far off.

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38 players had a point per game last season and 3 more had .99

I can easily see an 80-90 point season from Bedard even if he ends up having a somewhat slow start in his first 20 games.

Just a general baseline is what I was saying, but yes, he's absolutely capable of 90 points (again, if he is who we think he is). 30/30 would be kind of a disappointment, which sounds crazy to say, but he's simply too talented to have the expectations of putting up a Beniers type of rookie season.

 

[authentic]

Just a general baseline is what I was saying, but yes, he's absolutely capable of 90 points (again, if he is who we think he is). 30/30 would be kind of a disappointment, which sounds crazy to say, but he's simply too talented to have the expectations of putting up a Beniers type of rookie season.

Yeah and even if he does put up 30/30 I still think he becomes a 100+ point player in a few seasons. But yeah I will stick with 80-90 if he remains healthy all year.

 

[hamzarocks]

Yes i think a 30/30 roomie year would be a good year given the team thats around him. People pegging him as a PPG player from the get go are setting unrealstic expectations. He may not even hit that in year 2. I would write him in as a PPG guy by year 3 though

Your expectations are like if I said He should be better than anyone to be a ranger by year 3.

By his third year he will be a top 15 player at worst

 

[bigdog16]

Your expectations are like if I said He should be better than anyone to be a ranger by year 3.

By his third year he will be a top 15 player at worst

I'm not saying he won't be, but to say at worst he is a top 15 player in the world is bananas. He will have just turned 20 and will be playing on a historically bad Chicago team for two years.

 

[jj cale]

I called between 65 and 70 for him here months ago and I'm sticking with that based on watching him and what he has to work with in chicago from the preseason games.

This isn't the dub and his potential linemates don't inspire much fear.

 

[hamzarocks]

I'm not saying he won't be, but to say at worst he is a top 15 player in the world is bananas. He will have just turned 20 and will be playing on a historically bad Chicago team for two years.

Crosby
Mcdavid
Kane
Lindros

Were all top 15 players at worst by their 3rd year (everyone but kane there were top 2 in the league during their 3rd seasons)

Even if he is closer to Patrick Kane then the rest of those guys, he should be in the top 15-20 range

Basically be a Mitch Marner level player by the final year of his ELC

 

[ORRFForever]

Yes i think a 30/30 roomie year would be a good year given the team thats around him. People pegging him as a PPG player from the get go are setting unrealstic expectations. He may not even hit that in year 2. I would write him in as a PPG guy by year 3 though

Fair enough.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Soon

 

[wetcoast]

Yes i think a 30/30 roomie year would be a good year given the team thats around him. People pegging him as a PPG player from the get go are setting unrealstic expectations. He may not even hit that in year 2. I would write him in as a PPG guy by year 3 though

My guess is that he will be closer to 80 than 60 points this season, this post just isn't going to age well the kid is electric out there.

Soon

Can't wait might even phone in sick to watch the game.

 

[MOGlLNY]

Soon

Awesome vid

 

[TGWL]

My guess is that he will be closer to 80 than 60 points this season, this post just isn't going to age well the kid is electric out there.


Can't wait might even phone in sick to watch the game.

Well, 36/36 is closer to 80 than 60, but I fail to see how that makes 30/30 not aging well... It's not like the poster called him a bust and has positioned the prediction based on Chicago scoring the least amount of goals last season, and not doing a lot to really improve that. He should help the pp% improve from last season, especially with Hall added, but 5 on 5 goal scoring is still a concern. Bedard is obviously gifted but saying 60-70 isn't insulting him. My prediction was around 72/73, but I can see it drop a little with the roster. But being wrong doesn't make the post not age well.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Bedard's over/under goal total is 32.5 and his over/under point total is 69.5.

Of course, this factors in that he (like any player) is far from a guarantee to play all 82. For instance, McDavid, who had 153 last year is over/under 135.5.

 

[TLEH]

Bedard's over/under goal total is 32.5 and his over/under point total is 69.5.

Of course, this factors in that he (like any player) is far from a guarantee to play all 82. For instance, McDavid, who had 153 last year is over/under 135.5.

I would take the over on both.

 

[wetcoast]

Well, 36/36 is closer to 80 than 60, but I fail to see how that makes 30/30 not aging well... It's not like the poster called him a bust and has positioned the prediction based on Chicago scoring the least amount of goals last season, and not doing a lot to really improve that.

sure but this was the tone of the guy I was quoting and he went on to say that bedard might not even hit a PPG in year 2 which to me is absurd.

Yes i think a 30/30 roomie year would be a good year given the team thats around him. People pegging him as a PPG player from the get go are setting unrealstic expectations. He may not even hit that in year 2. I would write him in as a PPG guy by year 3 though

The thing is that Kane on really not a greter offensive team than the current edition in a lower socring 07-08 season hit 72 points, is Bedard really going to do worse...I don't think so.

He should help the pp% improve from last season, especially with Hall added, but 5 on 5 goal scoring is still a concern. Bedard is obviously gifted but saying 60-70 isn't insulting him. My prediction was around 72/73, but I can see it drop a little with the roster. But being wrong doesn't make the post not age well.

To me the key for the Black Hawks power play is having Kevin Korchinski play the QB position and Bedard can work his magic and Hall, Perry and Lukas Reichel are probably collectively upgrades as a whole from what they had last year.

the poster I was quoting Bigdog16 just seems to view Bedard as an okay prospect and nothing special and I would be surprised if Bedard wasn't in the Richard race by year 3 never mind just breaking the PPG mark.

 

[bigdog16]

sure but this was the tone of the guy I was quoting and he went on to say that bedard might not even hit a PPG in year 2 which to me is absurd.


The thing is that Kane on really not a greter offensive team than the current edition in a lower socring 07-08 season hit 72 points, is Bedard really going to do worse...I don't think so.


To me the key for the Black Hawks power play is having Kevin Korchinski play the QB position and Bedard can work his magic and Hall, Perry and Lukas Reichel are probably collectively upgrades as a whole from what they had last year.

the poster I was quoting Bigdog16 just seems to view Bedard as an okay prospect and nothing special and I would be surprised if Bedard wasn't in the Richard race by year 3 never mind just breaking the PPG mark.

This team will be significantly worse than the 07-08 team. That 07-08 team scored 239 goals. The Hawks last year scored 204. And this years teams is just as bad if not worse than last years.

You are comparing a likely lottery team to a team that battled for a playoff spot.