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C Aatu Räty - Jukurit, Liiga (2021, 52nd, NYI)

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I think if Raty keeps this up and also does this at the Liiga level, that's massive. Sebastian Aho also was in a similar hole when he was drafted so I'll probably keep an eye on Raty. I don't expect him on the island right away, but if he keeps improving (especially w/his skating, it looks like matt martins), he could be a solid player
 
ShiroganeKvasha30 said:
I think if Raty keeps this up and also does this at the Liiga level, that's massive. Sebastian Aho also was in a similar hole when he was drafted so I'll probably keep an eye on Raty. I don't expect him on the island right away, but if he keeps improving (especially w/his skating, it looks like matt martins), he could be a solid player
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The only thing is Liiga is a whole different level than a junior showcase. It’s great that he’s producing among his peers but I wouldn’t expect a huge jump in his pro production unless he gets more ice time and special teams play. He has to earn it though
 
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SI90 said:
The only thing is Liiga is a whole different level than a junior showcase. It’s great that he’s producing among his peers but I wouldn’t expect a huge jump in his pro production unless he gets more ice time and special teams play. He has to earn it though
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Exactly. But the way he's playing in a showcase is massive. It tells me that he wants to earn his spot again and get back to being that top player he was once projected to be
 
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I wrote earlier that I see Raty as a kind of a top-5 prospect who just somehow happened to be available at 52, so in that regard he's just doing what a top-5 pick should. I know we need to see more and things can always change, but to me this smells like an incredible steal. Someone that was such an obvious pick, but should've been one to so many others a lot earlier.
 
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Whyme said:
I wrote earlier that I see Raty as a kind of a top-5 prospect who just somehow happened to be available at 52, so in that regard he's just doing what a top-5 pick should. I know we need to see more and things can always change, but to me this smells like an incredible steal. Someone that was such an obvious pick, but should've been one so to many others a lot earlier.
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I understand him dropping based on the down year and limited scouting because of the pandemic but slipping to the 2nd round was really odd. Even all the draft experts and mock drafts all pretty much had him scattered throughout the 1st round.
 
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ShiroganeKvasha30 said:
I bet scouts really got discouraged by the way he was playing this year.
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What I don't understand is I'm no pro but I've seen it so many times what a difference confidence does to young players and how mishandling done by the team can make the player look like a shell of himself. I could name very good examples but anyway I'm no expert but sometimes I wonder how professional scouts can get things like these so wrong.

Again, it's still early but I just see Räty as a clear case, he's simply a stunning prospect and has always been. Sometimes good players either don't get enough ice time and struggle to fill that small role and sometimes they have to adjust their game in the new league. Add covid, both the player having it and it affecting the whole season with cancelled games and all, and I do think the scouts should've done better than this. I understand why he dropped from the top-10, even if they believed in Räty the pressure from fans would be huge after Räty's low numbers this season. Then it became more difficult to understand and anything after 30 was just unbelievable.
 
Albatros said:
Any other year I'd get that perhaps, but it's surprising that fell so far back when many of the players ahead of him that were ranked much worse previously didn't really play at all.
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He had a really tough year though. He was worse in Liiga than year before and was demoted to the u20 league. He did alright there, but a top10 caliber draftee should/would have torched that league. Not only was he not chosen for the u20 team (even his brother was) but he didn't even make it to the u18 team.

As a finn I hope he is now bouncing back, but I can't say whether it's this tournee or last season that's a fluke.
 
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Albatros said:
Any other year I'd get that perhaps, but it's surprising that fell so far back when many of the players ahead of him that were ranked much worse previously didn't really play at all.
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Sometimes it's just a case a guy may be ranked like 25 for a team but when their turn comes to draft guy #24 is still on the board.
 
ninetyeight said:
He had a really tough year though. He was worse in Liiga than year before and was demoted to the u20 league. He did alright there, but a top10 caliber draftee should/would have torched that league. Not only was he not chosen for the u20 team (even his brother was) but he didn't even make it to the u18 team.

As a finn I hope he is now bouncing back, but I can't say whether it's this tournee or last season that's a fluke.
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But is that what makes you decide that just drafting a big body is the better choice? I get team needs and all that, but we had Ottawa drafting Benjamin Roger ahead of him #49 overall. He was not projected to make the second round and has not played during the pandemic. Before that he had displayed no particular hockey skills in his junior career, but reportedly has made solid gains in weight training during this long break.
 
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He had a really tough year though. He was worse in Liiga than year before and was demoted to the u20 league. He did alright there, but a top10 caliber draftee should/would have torched that league. Not only was he not chosen for the u20 team (even his brother was) but he didn't even make it to the u18 team.

As a finn I hope he is now bouncing back, but I can't say whether it's this tournee or last season that's a fluke.
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He had a good preseason, but Kärpät placed him to the 4th line with no PP time and very limited TOI. He was also sitting every second game so I think the starting point was terrible. When he was placed to the juniors he had a slow start, but started to get it going then. I would imagine the disappointment of what happened in Liiga played a bit part in the rough start.

He couldn't make it to the U18 team because he was too old for it (birthday at the end of the year).

I didn't watch Räty closely at the end of the season so can't say much about that, but I'm pretty convinced it's the last season that was the fluke as there were so many strange things going on (no chance in the FEL team at first, huge pressure from failing #1 talks, Räty obviously having covid, covid in the team with cancelled games etc, disappointment of not making the U20 team, envy of watching how differently Lambert was treated in his FEL team etc.).
 
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Synergy27 said:
NHL GMs are stupid. End of story.
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They're stupid if Raty becomes a stud. Lets wait and see how he does in Liiga. For reference, here's Aho's stats during and after his draft year(s) btw
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I see this as the best blueprint for Raty to follow
 
ShiroganeKvasha30 said:
They're stupid if Raty becomes a stud. Lets wait and see how he does in Liiga. For reference, here's Aho's stats during and after his draft year(s) btw
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I see this as the best blueprint for Raty to follow
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There's no blueprint. These players are their own individuals with their own challenges.

Räty was picked 52nd onto a good team, he has all the time in the world. I'm happy for him.
 
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