Bunting got 5 and a game for elbow to the head of Cernak (suspended 3 games)

[AndyWozniewski]

The game was over before he took that penalty

4-2 with half the game left to play isn't out of reach. We still had a good amount of momentum at that point until that idiotic play.

 

[snipes29]

Such BS.

Dubas was supposed to talk to the league about Bunting's treatment.

Sheldon Keefe says Kyle Dubas will talk to league about Michael Bunting calls | TSN

Toronto Maple Leafs head coach Sheldon Keefe told reporters after Sunday’s loss to the Detroit Red Wings that general manager Kyle Dubas will have a word with the league about officiating decisions on forward Michael Bunting.

www.tsn.ca

Bunting is dumb period, Keefe is a clown.

 

[PB37]

You tense up away from the collision, but your shoulder goes UP and NOT DOWN. That's my point for people thinking Bunting was throwing his shoulder up into Cernak's head. Again if you watch the rear camera view where you see the hit head on from behind, you can clearly see Cernak TURNING INTO Bunting and not the opposite.

Cernak turns into Bunting and collides with him and Bunting braces for impact by tensing up and his shoulder naturally goes up defensively to protect himself. Cernak is leaning down during the collision and it becomes shoulder to head. If Cernak is upright in that position then it becomes shoulder to body.

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[TheBeastCoast]

It was dirty. Don't particularly care how long he gets suspended.

 

[FinnLightning26]

Maybe Dubas can contact the principal again to stop the referees from bullying Bunting.

 

[snipes29]

Last year same thing happened, meat stick player 5 minute major luckly we won that game last year. Keefe is a clown show out coached every playoffs lol pathetic same old same old??? The Shanahan plan lmao

Maybe Dubas can contact the principal again to stop the referees from bullying Bunting.

This organization is biggest joke in pro sports

 

[Hammerhead71]

On a good note at least he didn't try kicking him with his skate while he was down.

 

[ZEBROA]

That sucked more for us leafs... Stupid play. Reversed hits are the best.. When u got the puck, and dont hit the head.

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

Missed in all this Bunting talk is McCabe picking the head of Eyssimont as well. Clear check to the head as well that went uncalled.

Ahhh now you go for the over reach. That was clearly a shoulder straight into the chest. That was a "keep your head up son" at the blue line play.

 

[MuckOG]

Dumb play, not sure he intended to make head contact, but I would think he'll sit at least a game for that.

 

[BiolaRunner]

That’s a 3 gamer if I’ve ever see one.

So the rest of the series, you're saying?

 

[GQS]

I agree that Bunting doesn't necessarily hit Cernak in the head if Cernak is standing at his full height.

But he wasn't, and it did hit him in the head, and he left the game, and the puck was nowhere around.

The hit to the head was accidental and NOT because Bunting was purposely looking to hit a Tampa player in the head. Cernak skates in leaning down and boom it was an unfortunate hit.

I also believe that Bunting knew he was coming, and thought to throw a little reverse-hit his way in retaliation for what happened earlier in the game, only he caught him in the wrong place and put his team down a man for 5 minutes.

Cernak was clearly following the play, watching the puck and moving towards its destination, and was blind-sided.

This entire incident happened off the faceoff where the puck was dropped and 5-6 seconds later the hit occurs. You can clearly see Cernak simply turning towards his right and almost instantly into Bunting. Go to 1:42:00 of the video and see the entire sequence yourself. Bunting from the faceoff turned to his left and started skating straight ahead and Cernak ran into him.

Go to 1:43:05 of the video and after Bunting turns left he skates straight ahead with his head facing away from Cernak and he simply runs into him from the side/rear.

 

[NyQuil]

The hit to the head was accidental and NOT because Bunting was purposely looking to hit a Tampa player in the head. Cernak skates in leaning down and boom it was an unfortunate hit.

This entire incident happened off the faceoff where the puck was dropped and 5-6 seconds later the hit occurs. You can clearly see Cernak simply turning towards his right and almost instantly into Bunting. Go to 1:42:00 of the video and see the entire sequence yourself. Bunting from the faceoff turned to his left and started skating straight ahead and Cernak ran into him.

Go to 1:43:05 of the video and after Bunting turns left he skates straight ahead with his head facing away from Cernak and he simply runs into him from the side/rear.

This is a ridiculous interpretation of what happened, sorry.

 

[GQS]

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How is it 'fiction' when the video I posted shows everything that happened right after the faceoff? Bunting turns to his left off the faceoff and starts skating straight. Cernak from the faceoff turns to his right and into Bunting and they collide. 1:42:00 is where the puck is dropped and 5-6 seconds later the collision happens. 1:43:05 you can see from the rear camera that Cernak goes into Bunting's path while he was going straight and his head was facing away.

 

[sufferer]

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

 

[saintunspecified]

You tense up away from the collision, but your shoulder goes UP and NOT DOWN. That's my point for people thinking Bunting was throwing his shoulder up into Cernak's head. Again if you watch the rear camera view where you see the hit head on from behind, you can clearly see Cernak TURNING INTO Bunting and not the opposite.

Cernak turns into Bunting and collides with him and Bunting braces for impact by tensing up and his shoulder naturally goes up defensively to protect himself. Cernak is leaning down during the collision and it becomes shoulder to head. If Cernak is upright in that position then it becomes shoulder to body.

If you're leading a chase for a puck, and your trailing pursuer turns into you, you've won. The best way to maintain body position is to stay centered, not to brace vertically. I can understand the reverse hit as protection from being boarded, but not where that happened.

I think it was a paranoid & reckless reverse hit attempt that unfortunately resulted in an elbow to the head. I think the question about whether there was intent to injure vs. reckless play is really a distinction of degree, not kind. The major+match with 2 games would be fair according to current standards. Current standards don't go far enough imo.

 

[Shocker]

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Hey at least it's just few bad apples here, majority seems to be chilling, that's progress, baby!

He'll probably get few games, if i had to guess exactly, i'd say 2.

I personally would give him 4, but that's me.

 

[GQS]

This is a ridiculous interpretation of what happened, sorry.

You're free to believe what you saw, but the video to me clearly shows Bunting isn't skating into anyone off the faceoff while Cernak turns blindly right and makes contact with Bunting.

I might be a Leafs fan, but I'm not a blind Leafs homer that thinks the players on their team can't do anything wrong. Just that after reviewing the video a number of times, in this particular incident I don't see Bunting purposely trying to hit a Tampa player on the play.

The McCabe hit on Eyssimont earlier was much more intentional than this ever was.

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

Anyone who says this DID NOT watch all the angles on that play.



From the rear camera view from up the ice you can clearly see Cernak MOVING TOWARDS Bunting from the side/rear and NOT the other way around meaning it wasn't Bunting looking to make contact. Cernak is 6'4 while Bunting is listed at 6'0 so the only way Bunting's shoulder could make contact with Cernak's head is if he was leaning down which is exactly what happened. In my view it looked to me Cernak was skating towards Bunting to get his body on him and tie him up and he was leaning down while doing so and unfortunately got clipped in the head.

I get that people think he's a Marchand like rat these days and many people dislike him, but for this particular incident it wasn't his fault. Ask yourself if you were in Bunting's exact same position in that incident WHAT WOULD YOU DO DIFFERENTLY that could've allowed you to avoid clipping Cernak in the head? I'd really like to hear it.

WHAT WOULD YOU DO DIFFERENTLY Well to start not directly hit his damn head.
Secondly if Cernak is going to hit me while the puck is 20 feet away in a game that is 4-2 with my team charging hard I let him hit me and I make it look like he blew me up with a bomb. It would be a garage sale in the corner with all the equipment I would have had fly off. Let Cernak get a 2 minute penalty or maybe even 5 and a game. That is what a rat would and should do.

 

[Koolboss]

Bunting is plug so missing him for a few games won't make much difference, Kadri's suspension on the other hand cost them the series. So stop with the comparison

 

[saintunspecified]

The McCabe hit on Eyssimont earlier was much more intentional than this ever was.

This is actually true. McCabe's hit was a tactically sound, and well executed hockey play, and this reverse hit gone wrong was reckless/paranoid nonsense.

 

[GQS]

If you're leading a chase for a puck, and your trailing pursuer turns into you, you've won. The best way to maintain body position is to stay centered, not to brace vertically. I can understand the reverse hit as protection from being boarded, but not where that happened.

Tensing up and bringing your shoulder up is an automatic, natural and INSTINCTUAL response to someone colliding with you anywhere. Have someone in real life run into you from the side with moderate force and see how you react without even being able to think about what you should do.

Your automatic response isn't to drop your shoulder to the collision and it isn't to keep it netural at your side, its to automatically tense up and bring your shoulder up as a shield to try and protect your neck and head from the impact and possible injury.

I think it was a paranoid & reckless reverse hit attempt that unfortunately resulted in an elbow to the head. I think the question about whether there was intent to injure vs. reckless play is really a distinction of degree, not kind. The major+match with 2 games would be fair according to current standards. Current standards don't go far enough imo.

The thing is in this incident I don't think that Bunting was reckless. Off the faceoff Bunting turned and was skating his own path and Cernak turned to his right and into Bunting's path. Look at 1:43:05 in the video I posted and you see Bunting skating straight with his head facing away while Cernak turned right into him while leaning down.

In the end its not going to matter because regardless he's going to get games for the supposed dirty head hit because its Bunting. Just that in my view this was an unfortunate incident where two players collide in an awkward manner rather than Bunting looking to take a guy's head off.

 

[dekelikekocur]

You tense up away from the collision, but your shoulder goes UP and NOT DOWN. That's my point for people thinking Bunting was throwing his shoulder up into Cernak's head. Again if you watch the rear camera view where you see the hit head on from behind, you can clearly see Cernak TURNING INTO Bunting and not the opposite.

Cernak turns into Bunting and collides with him and Bunting braces for impact by tensing up and his shoulder naturally goes up defensively to protect himself. Cernak is leaning down during the collision and it becomes shoulder to head. If Cernak is upright in that position then it becomes shoulder to body.

Tensing doesn't cause you to lunge into someone. Get the homer glasses off.

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

You tense up away from the collision, but your shoulder goes UP and NOT DOWN. That's my point for people thinking Bunting was throwing his shoulder up into Cernak's head. Again if you watch the rear camera view where you see the hit head on from behind, you can clearly see Cernak TURNING INTO Bunting and not the opposite.

Cernak turns into Bunting and collides with him and Bunting braces for impact by tensing up and his shoulder naturally goes up defensively to protect himself. Cernak is leaning down during the collision and it becomes shoulder to head. If Cernak is upright in that position then it becomes shoulder to body.

Clearly you have never thrown or taken a hit while wearing skates. When you are about to take a hit you will spread your base (feet) slightly lower your center of gravity and stiffen your shoulders. Not the exact opposite. When you want to throw a hit you naturally lift up with your legs which causes your upper body to raise up including your shoulders and your feet will often leave the ice. It takes a lot of practice to not instinctively do this.
No matter how you try to spin this Bunting was throwing a hit on Cernak.

 

[GQS]

WHAT WOULD YOU DO DIFFERENTLY Well to start not directly hit his damn head.
Secondly if Cernak is going to hit me while the puck is 20 feet away in a game that is 4-2 with my team charging hard I let him hit me and I make it look like he blew me up with a bomb. It would be a garage sale in the corner with all the equipment I would have had fly off. Let Cernak get a 2 minute penalty or maybe even 5 and a game. That is what a rat would and should do.

This entire incident starts at 1:42:00. Show me from off the faceoff where do you believe Bunting looked like he was looking for a Tampa player to hit? If you slow down the video he turns left off the faceoff and goes straight ahead. Then go see what Cernak does off the faceoff and tell me who ran into who leaning forward with their head?

Tensing doesn't cause you to lunge into someone. Get the homer glasses off.

Give me the timestamp in the video I posted that shows Bunting 'lunging' into Cernak?