Bunting got 5 and a game for elbow to the head of Cernak (suspended 3 games)

[saintunspecified]

Tensing up and bringing your shoulder up is an automatic, natural and INSTINCTUAL response to someone colliding with you anywhere. Have someone in real life run into you from the side with moderate force and see how you react without even being able to think about what you should do.

Not particularly interested in debating what is natural or instinctual when we're talking about professional hockey players who have had, I assume, what to do when one has body position drilled into them. I don't coach hockey, only lacrosse, but I can tell you that this is something we teach over and over and over to our boys starting at 8 years old. Perhaps a hockey coach will tell me that it's not taught very early in youth hockey, and I'll be very surprised.

If that's Bunting's natural reaction, then he'll probably have injured teammates in practice. I know those kids who do that sort of thing exist, and that there are coaches that tolerate them, but I don't care about winning that much.

 

[SullivanT]

How is it that Bunting has any fans? Genuinely curious.

Trying to fill the gaping hole in their hearts that Zack Hyman left

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

More like Michael .

 

[Channelcat]

The Hartman hit on Ehlers was twice as bad.....I don't get it.

 

[Il Stugotz]

Based on the wording in this tweet, I think he gets one game for interference (like Hartman did for hitting Ehlers) and one game for the headshot.

 

[Golden_Jet]

You tense up away from the collision, but your shoulder goes UP and NOT DOWN. That's my point for people thinking Bunting was throwing his shoulder up into Cernak's head. Again if you watch the rear camera view where you see the hit head on from behind, you can clearly see Cernak TURNING INTO Bunting and not the opposite.

Cernak turns into Bunting and collides with him and Bunting braces for impact by tensing up and his shoulder naturally goes up defensively to protect himself. Cernak is leaning down during the collision and it becomes shoulder to head. If Cernak is upright in that position then it becomes shoulder to body.

there is no shoulder it’s all elbow, to a guy who’s chasing the puck.
What is Bunting thinking there, just as Toronto was getting back in the game.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Honestly any suspension for bunting prob helps leafs…. He’s too volatile.

Insert knies, much better team player and not a selfish twat like bunting.

 

[GQS]

Clearly you have never thrown or taken a hit while wearing skates. When you are about to take a hit you will spread your base (feet) slightly lower your center of gravity and stiffen your shoulders. Not the exact opposite.

When you have the time to react then sure maybe you can prepare like that, but when you're about to get hit with almost no warning how do you have even fractions of a second to prepare for it? The answer is YOU DON'T and you simply react and brace as best you can.

Eyssimont earlier had no time to brace for McCabe's hit and he took it full on, but in that case McCabe had the INTENT to make a hit on him. This wasn't the case with Bunting and Cernak where it looked to me like an accidental collision.

When you want to throw a hit you naturally lift up with your legs which causes your upper body to raise up including your shoulders and your feet will often leave the ice. It takes a lot of practice to not instinctively do this.
No matter how you try to spin this Bunting was throwing a hit on Cernak.

When you're about to throw a hit you go downwards slightly and then up because that's the natural motion of your body and it generates force. And the part about 'feet leaving the ice' comes AFTER you make contact with your het and not before. The feet leaving the ice is the follow through because before the hit you WANT your feet on the ice so that you can use your legs to push off and into the person you're trying to hit.

Its the same off and on the ice. Try jumping into someone with your feet already off the ground and its a weak hit. Use your legs to drive your shoulder into someone and its a much more powerful hit.

 

[Golden_Jet]

The hit to the head was accidental and NOT because Bunting was purposely looking to hit a Tampa player in the head. Cernak skates in leaning down and boom it was an unfortunate hit.


This entire incident happened off the faceoff where the puck was dropped and 5-6 seconds later the hit occurs. You can clearly see Cernak simply turning towards his right and almost instantly into Bunting. Go to 1:42:00 of the video and see the entire sequence yourself. Bunting from the faceoff turned to his left and started skating straight ahead and Cernak ran into him.

Go to 1:43:05 of the video and after Bunting turns left he skates straight ahead with his head facing away from Cernak and he simply runs into him from the side/rear.

Lol, Cernak skates into the elbow,

 

[dekelikekocur]

This entire incident starts at 1:42:00. Show me from off the faceoff where do you believe Bunting looked like he was looking for a Tampa player to hit? If you slow down the video he turns left off the faceoff and goes straight ahead. Then go see what Cernak does off the faceoff and tell me who ran into who leaning forward with their head?


Give me the timestamp in the video I posted that shows Bunting 'lunging' into Cernak?

44.5s mark in the replay or roughly 3.5s in the original recording.

And most can't watch your vid because:

 

[Captain97]

Glad we can put to bed the narrative that Bunting is officiated unfairly. An obvious dive and a dirt AF hit all in one period. Guy's reputation is well earned.

I actually believe Bunting is officiated unfairly quite often. This game not so much. He got what he deserved.

 

[DueDiligence]

you can clearly see Cernak MOVING TOWARDS Bunting from the side/rear and NOT the other way around meaning it wasn't Bunting looking to make contact.

You can't be serious.

 

[lilphildub]

You can't be serious.

I’m just thankful that most Leafs fans have acknowledged that it was dirty and are being reasonable. This guy is something else haha

 

[GQS]

Not particularly interested in debating what is natural or instinctual when we're talking about professional hockey players who have had, I assume, what to do when one has body position drilled into them. I don't coach hockey, only lacrosse, but I can tell you that this is something we teach over and over and over to our boys starting at 8 years old. Perhaps a hockey coach will tell me that it's not taught very early in youth hockey, and I'll be very surprised.

This is one of those things that you can test for yourself at home. Have someone collide with you with moderate force and see how your body reacts without you thinking about it. That's natural and instinctual and its different from when you see a collision about to happen and try to purposely react to it.

If that's Bunting's natural reaction, then he'll probably have injured teammates in practice. I know those kids who do that sort of thing exist, and that there are coaches that tolerate them, but I don't care about winning that much.

Bunting's reaction is the natural reaction of almost everyone who collides with someone out of nowhere where again your body simply reacts to the collision. His collision with Cernak is nothing like the hit McCabe laid on Eyssimont earlier that had the full purpose to lay him out.

 

[Lt Dan]

You can't be serious.

And don't call him Shirley!

 

[NyQuil]

44.5s mark in the replay or roughly 3.5s in the original recording.

I like how Bunting is skating perpendicular to where the puck is going.

 

[centipede2233]

Scott stevens wouldn’t do well in todays NHL

 

[The don godfather]

Honestly any suspension for bunting prob helps leafs…. He’s too volatile.

Insert knies, much better team player and not a selfish twat like bunting.

Or knives acts like a deer in the headlights in a hot Toronto building with a pressure cooker hockey atmosphere.

Scott stevens wouldn’t do well in todays NHL

He was the best. Lost hockey art now. Those hits cant be duplicated.

 

[NyQuil]

Scott stevens wouldn’t do well in todays NHL

He did a lot of amazing things aside from hitting guys in the head.

I think he'd be fine.

 

[dekelikekocur]

Scott stevens wouldn’t do well in todays NHL

He would have adapted, still play with an edge but he'd of fallen in line with the rules.

 

[StumpyTown]

Leaf fans. Enjoy your new guy who can't control his emotions in the playoffs. Bunting was flopping all over the place trying to draw calls in the first and chirping incessantly. The problem is that Keefe keeps putting him out there when he clearly needs to be sat down at the end of the bench. You can't let a player make himself bigger than the team in the playoffs.

 

[saintunspecified]

This is one of those things that you can test for yourself at home. Have someone collide with you with moderate force and see how your body reacts without you thinking about it. That's natural and instinctual and its different from when you see a collision about to happen and try to purposely react to it.

I'm not sure which is sillier: your hypothesis that every person must react in a certain way despite state of mind or training, or the idea that anyone would engage in that ridiculous experiment at all.

I don't know about you, and it's not really important, but the only way I could conduct such an experiment 'without thinking about it' would require me to get so high that only thing on my mind would be snacks.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

Doing that in a 3-2 game where your struggling team is finally building some momentum is truly, truly dumb.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

I'm not sure which is sillier: your hypothesis that every person must react in a certain way despite state of mind or training, or the idea that anyone would engage in that ridiculous experiment at all.

I don't know about you, and it's not really important, but the only way I could conduct such an experiment 'without thinking about it' would require me to get so high that only thing on my mind would be snacks.

Their point is that unexpectedly getting hit leads to injury and falling awkwardly. Were you high when you wrote this silly response?

 

[Prettyisland]

You are always accountable for what happens after reckless behavior regardless of intent. That being said I think missing a period plus of playoff hockey should be the end of punishment