Bunting got 5 and a game for elbow to the head of Cernak (suspended 3 games)

[State of Hockey]

Yes. No. Now you answer my question.

Don't have to. Because you answered mine, you've shown us all that you're reduced the NHL rulebook on penalties to whether or not there is unabated head contact. You're not serious about this.

 

[Stonehands 1]

I’m neutral on this. Not a fan of ether team. I have not hitched my wagon with my team out of the playoffs to ether of these teams. That said, I would have given him 2 games. I understand 3. And 1 would have been to little. He made a horrible choice in a split second that deserves suspension but I don’t think he stepped on the ice with intent. That said I’d rather the league make a trend of going one degree too high on a suspension than too low. It’s better to shoot high then dial back when needed than shoot to low and have to react to push up.

But thats the thing, if the next time somebody had the exact same play as Bunting, it could be no games, could be 7 games, you just don't know, DoPS will surprise you every time

 

[nturn06]

Cool then punish Cernak for the elbows he delivers to the head away from the puck pretty much every game he plays lmao.

Also, this bs about play away from the puck doesn't really hold weight it's just an interference penalty I don't get why whether the player has the puck or not matters when you shouldn't be elbowing someone either way nor charging the fact doesn't change that another player targeted someone else.

And here lies the issue. While technically this was an interference penalty, I would not reffer to a hit to the head away from the play as "just an interference"...

Interference penalty can mean different things, by calling it "just" interference you are trying to sell it as something less.

 

[Stonehands 1]

But thats the thing, if the next time somebody had the exact same play as Bunting, it could be no games, could be 7 games, you just don't know, DoPS will surprise you every time

And for that matter you could be a total goon and get no games or be conner McDavid and gat 7, you just don't know

 

[Golden_Jet]

Is injuring someone a compounding factor in terms of discipline?

Asking a serious question.

Ya it will factor in

 

[nturn06]

But thats the thing, if the next time somebody had the exact same play as Bunting, it could be no games, could be 7 games, you just don't know, DoPS will surprise you every time

While I agree that the DoPS is very inconsistent, I have yet to see two plays which are exactly the same, "similar" typically means something very different. This also makes judging these plays very very hard.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Three games was what I was expecting.
Good job by Dops. Got to take that out if the game.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Did Minnesota win?

Yes, they are up 1-0 on Dallas.

 

[Stonehands 1]

Ya it will factor in

Not supposed to, but ya

 

[Panthaz89]

And here lies the issue. While technically this was an interference penalty, I would not reffer to a hit to the head away from the play as "just an interference"...

Interference penalty can mean different things, by calling it "just" interference you are trying to sell it as something less.

Its not but targeting someone with or without the puck isn't much difference when you literally should not be using your elbow the guy with the puck isn't expecting an elbow either its against the rules.

 

[Harvey Birdman]

But thats the thing, if the next time somebody had the exact same play as Bunting, it could be no games, could be 7 games, you just don't know, DoPS will surprise you every time

That’s why I said make a trend. Obviously we know they won’t. I said I wish they would.

 

[nucks88]

3 games is insane...

Sergachev got 2 for his headshot on Marner, I thought that was going to be the standard with the multiplier (2 regular season = 1 playoff), this is equivalent to 6 games in the regular season.

And Aaron Rome got 4 in the f***ing final round …quit your bitching….

 

[Incognito]

Three games was what I was expecting.
Good job by Dops. Got to take that out if the game.

Bad hits like this one do need to be taken out of the game. But in order to accomplish that, the DoPS needs to do a much better job of consistently applying this level of sanction against players who do shit like this.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

3 games is insane...

Sergachev got 2 for his headshot on Marner, I thought that was going to be the standard with the multiplier (2 regular season = 1 playoff), this is equivalent to 6 games in the regular season.

Lol. Insane indeed!

 

[Chairman Maouth]

Bunting's dogs aren't all pulling in the same direction so I predict this won't be his last meeting with NHL PLayer Safety during the playoffs.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Bad hits like this one do need to be taken out of the game. But in order to accomplish that, the DoPS needs to do a much better job of consistently applying this level of sanction against players who do shit like this.

You’ll never get consistency because every hit is different. I mean in this very thread people are talking about other hits that aren’t even close to the same.
But over the past few years I think the penalties have started to increase and I think that’s a good thing. Even if it’s one of my teams players that gets suspended.

 

[pcruz]

While I agree that the DoPS is very inconsistent, I have yet to see two plays which are exactly the same, "similar" typically means something very different. This also makes judging these plays very very hard.

Should we throw out all cases of Case Law then?

No 2 events are exactly the same, so "judging cases is very hard".

Precedent is not for mirrored events.
Precedent is used as a guide for similar events in the future.

By similar events, it means similar aspects of the events.

 

[SmoggyTwinkles]

Bunting's dogs aren't all pulling in the same direction so I predict this won't be his last meeting with NHL PLayer Safety during the playoffs.

This playoffs?

That would be great.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

While I agree that the DoPS is very inconsistent, I have yet to see two plays which are exactly the same, "similar" typically means something very different. This also makes judging these plays very very hard.

This is the issue I have with the people who always whine about "inconsistency". They always bring up plays that are nothing like the play being discussed.

If you think the suspension on Bunting is inconsistent, then go find another example of a player getting less games for elbowing a player in the head who was nowhere near the puck. Any play that doesn't check off all those boxes are completely irrelevant to the discussion.

 

[Russell Sprouts]

If you want the benefit of the doubt dont spend the entire regular season making a name for yourself as a douche bag. f*** Bunting and the Leafs... pile of trash all around.

 

[Stonehands 1]

This is the issue I have with the people who always whine about "inconsistency". They always bring up plays that are nothing like the play being discussed.

If you think the suspension on Bunting is inconsistent, then go find another example of a player getting less games for elbowing a player in the head who was nowhere near the puck. Any play that doesn't check off all those boxes are completely irrelevant to the discussion.

How much time did chernek get the last time he was suspended

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

How much time did chernek get the last time he was suspended

See but there you go, when did Cernak ever get suspended for elbowing a guy in the head when they were nowhere near the puck? Provide of a video of him doing that and I will agree that Leaf fans have a right to call bs on this.

 

[Bradely]

Good decision. Bunting is a) dangerous and b) seems hysterical.

 

[Stonehands 1]

See but there you go, when did Cernak ever get suspended for elbowing a guy in the head when they were nowhere near the puck? Provide of a video of him doing that and I will agree that Leaf fans have a right to call bs on this.

Didn't he get 2 games for a hit very similar to buntings

 

[Ezekial]

Please explain to me why Hartman got 1 regular season game and Bunting gets 3 playoffs game.

If it were me I would say both hits are 2 game suspensions under equal circumstances(meaning if Hartman's was in game 1 of the playoffs). I think it's they're bad hits taking advantage of another player.

But I can see an argument that a player is entitled to defend himself with a reverse hit if a player wants to hit them themselves. There is a world where Hartman gets rid of the puck and a player comes in and hits him. So while it's blatant interference it's possible that Ehlers could finish a check on him in that situation - he wasn't and that's what made it so egregious and an awful hit.
There is no reason for Cernak to be hit