Confirmed Trade: [BUF/VGK] Jack Eichel, c.'23 3rd for Alex Tuch, Peyton Krebs, c.'22 1st (Top10 protected), c.'23 2nd

[EichelsJockStrap]

Fair Trade in my opinion. 10Million dollar player that has to have an experimental surgery. Not many teams have the cap and also have their Dr's approve the ADR. If Jack comes back 85% Vegas wins the trade. If Krebs becomes a 50-65pt player, Tuch continues and Sabres hit with the draft picks then the Sabres win.

At the end of the day this is the return everybody expected..

 

[Habs Halifax]

Not to mention just because that's what the "rumor" was, doesn't mean it was true.

The rumor media throws out there vs what some Sabres fans were saying on HF boards are two different things. What Sabres fans said on HF boards is not a rumor. It's what they believe they deserved. Reality

 

[RC51]

I dont understand, I thought saber fans demanded Susuki + Caufield+ 3x 1st rounders AND Rommanov. AND many Saber fans said it was bot enough

 

[dire wolf]

that was the rumor for a while

never heard that. source?

 

[CupInSIX]

There's still the possibility of Stone being shelved for the regular season, for anyone wondering about their cap situation. He tried skating last week, but that was never really shot down and Seravalli said it was still a possibility on the weekend.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Nah... the 4 1st narrative some were spitting out was more like top 10 quality (all of them) vs just saying 1st round qualities. Maybe the Sabres management were speaking a different tone but the fans were certainly spinning those 4 1st's into all gems and top 10 qualities. Proof is out there if you have time to go back and read the barrage of posts.

The actual return is not garbage and it's solid. Just not as sure shot as some were targeting on HF boards. Several Sabres fans talked about later 1st round picks being meh and they were aggressive on that too!

* The 1st has top 10 protection right?
* Krebs is a solid 1st rounder. Not blue chip but certainly grade A. Some think he can play center but I have my doubts on that.
* Tuch is a solid value contract and a great piece to have in the size/skating/engergy department but he's no Zegras.

If Eichel is 100% and does not face any further issues once he starts playing again, the deal could very well look like Tuch and Krebs for Eichel when we look back in a few years. That 1st is likely a late round pick or mid round. Sabres could hit with it yes but they could miss too. 1st round picks are not guaranteed grade A prospects each and every time. We all know this.

And some people were saying it should be Strome + a few conditional 7ths. We should be better than playing weasel games with the outliers.

The hockey press was widely quoted as speculating 4sts, without any sort of qualification that all were top 10; few if any teams have that sort of talent collection to deal. This is 3 1sts; which is close to 4 1sts. There's no need to twist like a pretzel pretending that isn't so.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Fair Trade in my opinion. 10Million dollar player that has to have an experimental surgery. Not many teams have the cap and also have their Dr's approve the ADR. If Jack comes back 85% Vegas wins the trade. If Krebs becomes a 50-65pt player, Tuch continues and Sabres hit with the draft picks then the Sabres win.

At the end of the day this is the return "everybody" expected..

Please speak for yourself only. Don't try to represent "Everybody" cause that's far from reality on what comments were said on HF boards.

 

[5cotland]

Krebs is a better prospect than everyone you just listed lol. Sabres ended up with 3 1st round equivalent talents instead of 4. I framed this exact trade 3 months ago so I am completely satisfied with the return for Jack. No risk left on the Sabres end. Have fun with Drury hes def shown he knows what hes doing.

Ye, he really isnt.

 

[Terry Yake]

never heard that. source?

Report: Major breakthrough in Jack Eichel trade talks; World juniors star Trevor Zegras now in the discussion

NHL Rumors: Ducks eventual Eichel trade destination; Max Comtois on the block; and Seattle Kraken to get outdoor game?

 

[PromisedLand]

Presuming they make the playoffs.

It's November 4th and they've got to leap frog 5 teams to get a wildcard spot. 80% of teams in playoff position at Thanksgiving make playoffs at end of year.

Season started a lot later this year; the thanksgiving scenario probably does not apply for this season

 

[Habs Halifax]

And some people were saying it should be Strome + a few conditional 7ths. We should be better than playing weasel games with the outliers.

The hockey press was widely quoted as speculating 4sts, without any sort of qualification that all were top 10; few if any teams have that sort of talent collection to deal. This is 3 1sts; which is close to 4 1sts. There's no need to twist like a pretzel pretending that isn't so.

I guess the bad apples on both sides of the fence ruin things for others eh?

 

[Kupo]

Krebs is a better prospect than everyone you just listed lol. Sabres ended up with 3 1st round equivalent talents instead of 4. I framed this exact trade 3 months ago so I am completely satisfied with the return for Jack. No risk left on the Sabres end. Have fun with Drury hes def shown he knows what hes doing.

This was Eichel’s full value?

 

[EichelsJockStrap]

Please speak for yourself only. Don't try to represent "Everybody" cause that's far from reality on what comments were said on HF boards.

Excuse me... At the end of the day this is the return that people with half a functioning brain expected.

 

[TheBarnIsElectric]

Exactly.

So many Buffalo fans laughed and said proposals such as :

Zegras/Drysdsle +
Seider + Raymond
Byfield + Valardi
Kakko + Lafreniere +
Tkachuk + Pelletier + multiple 1sts

All of this wasn’t enough to them. Now suddenly this is an amazing deal…

You're conveniently forgetting that at the start of all this, there wasn't even certainty that he needed surgery. A healthy Eichel should return top prospects all day, because he is what you hope those prospects turn into. If you look at what most Sabres fans have been saying recently, it was that we wanted a top prospect, a good young roster player, a first, and something else of value, plus whatever was needed to make cap work. That is basically what we got.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Excuse me... At the end of the day this is the return that people with half a functioning brain expected.

Better!

Where were you when the bad apple Sabres fans were out of line?

 

[The Winter Soldier]

I actually like Buffalo's direction. Selling low... but Eichel may not get back to where he was ... so decent haul forced into situation.

Agreed, I don't think people are also considering Tuch is signed to a great contract at 4.75M for another 5 years. He's paced 21 goals on Vegas his last 4 seasons, and at 25, still may have some upside as the Sabres #1 winger now. A 6'4 220 lbs winger that can skate like he can at 4.75M is value. Also he is from Syracuse NY, he grew up a Sabres fan. Some things to like from Buffalo's stand point.

 

[NotPetya]

YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE. MAKE YOUR TIME.

lol

@SenzZen

 

[dire wolf]

Report: Major breakthrough in Jack Eichel trade talks; World juniors star Trevor Zegras now in the discussion

NHL Rumors: Ducks eventual Eichel trade destination; Max Comtois on the block; and Seattle Kraken to get outdoor game?

I think it was an "or" not an end. That first article is ambiguous.

 

[threeVo]

This was Eichel’s full value?

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Since you are so bored to dig through my post history did you also see the part where I said Krebs+Tuch+2 1sts and 2 cap dumps was the return I expected from Vegas or does that not fit you somehow trying a gotcha moment on me? This is exactly what Eichels value was. Not Strome + 1st

 

[TheBarnIsElectric]

I feel bad for Alex Tuch. You go from living in Vegas, banging showgirls, blow, golf courses, five star restaurants, and playing for a Cup contender...........................to playing in Buffalo.

You're from Detroit.

 

[AlienWorkShop]

Half of your likes in one comment lol.

Haha. 'Likes' didn't use to exist for old-timers like me. I swear I was a quality poster back in my more active days...

(Christ, I've been on HF for 17 years. What a life.)

 

[Habs Halifax]

Agreed, I don't think people are also considering Tuch is signed to a great contract at 4.75M for another 5 years. He's paced 21 goals on Vegas his last 4 seasons, and at 25, still may have some upside as the Sabres #1 winger now. A 6'4 220 lbs winger that can skate at 4.75M is value. Also he is from Syracuse NY, he grew up a Sabres fan. Some things to like from Buffalo's stand point.

IMO, there is no doubt about it. Tuch has a value contract for what he brings to the table every game. He's just not a top line driver type talent but he's a great secondary piece to have in the team building strategy

 

[Rich Nixon]

Report: Major breakthrough in Jack Eichel trade talks; World juniors star Trevor Zegras now in the discussion

NHL Rumors: Ducks eventual Eichel trade destination; Max Comtois on the block; and Seattle Kraken to get outdoor game?

These are not sources.

 

[strattonius]

Sucks for the Sabres their idiot GM basically demolished Eichel's value from the start of this whole thing.

Protected 1st rd'er, Krebs over-rated, Tuch nice piece. Just complete robbery by Vegas, but it's along the lines of what most of us predicted.

 

[Kupo]

Since you are so bored to dig through my post history did you also see the part where I said Krebs+Tuch+2 1sts and 2 cap dumps was the return I expected from Vegas or does that not fit you somehow trying a gotcha moment on me? This is exactly what Eichels value was. Not Strome + 1st

I never proposed Strome + 1st you salty Sabre’s fan

I just find it comical that your young, elite 1C’s full value was what Adams held out for all this time.