Confirmed with Link: [BUF/VGK] Jack Eichel & 3rd-2023(BUF) FOR Peyton Krebs, Alex Tuch, 1st-2022(VGK) & 2nd-2023(VGK)

[TehDoak]

This fantasy world you live in sounds depressing

"Fantasy World" is seeing a GM whose resume is:

-Taking a .500 team to dead last
-Bumble the most important trade in the last 10 years of the franchise
-Laying off people in the middle of a pandemic
-Icing a team that is struggling to hit the cap floor after missing the playoffs for a decade.

and saying "He's doing great!"

Selling is easy. Finishing dead last is easy. Building is hard. And we still don't have anyone in the org who knows how to build a winning franchise.

 

[zenthusiast]

Lol

not even a perfunctory “thanks for the memories Buffalo”

 

[Dominance]

Nice

Could realistically add Savoie/Geekie, Chesley/Luneau, and Nazar/Howard on the first day of the draft this year, too.

 

[WiHockeyGuy]

Lol

not even a perfunctory “thanks for the memories Buffalo”

Didn't expect much from him honestly.

 

[DapperCam]

Adams probably could have gotten a better return with retained salary and more onerous draft pick conditions tied to Eichel playing time. Considering those weren’t on the table, I think this deal is fine (not great, but not bad either).

I wish the best for Eichel. He landed in a dumpster fire of a situation with terrible management and mentors as a teenager. Hard to imagine somebody thriving in a situation like that.

 

[Fezzy126]

Lol

not even a perfunctory “thanks for the memories Buffalo”

I'll be shocked if his agent doesn't put something out there in the next day or so

 

[vcv]

Adams tried to win the trade this summer and got .50 on the dollar instead of .75 on the dollar he could have gotten with more bidders.

Pure speculation at multiple levels.

You're only right about one thing: You never win when you trade the superstar player (unless you're the Quebec Nordiques...).

 

[Fezzy126]

These jerseys are straight fire.

I'm really hoping Krebs plays in it so I can spend a small fortune when they auction them off.

 

[Jim Bob]

Vegas Golden Knights Salary Cap, Draft Picks, and Player Contracts - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Vegas has slightly over $29M in cap hits out injured right now.

It will be interesting to watch what they do once guys start to get healthy.

 

[Fjordy]

These jerseys are straight fire.

I'm really hoping Krebs plays in it so I can spend a small fortune when they auction them off.

At first I thought it was AVS

 

[Jim Bob]

These jerseys are straight fire.

I'm really hoping Krebs plays in it so I can spend a small fortune when they auction them off.

 

[Jim Bob]

At first I thought it was AVS

My first thought was John Gibson's mask paint job and the drama over the design.

 

[Husko]

But I thought Krebs was untouchable and not worth trading for Eichel straight up.

 

[Jim Bob]

But I thought Krebs was untouchable and not worth trading for Eichel straight up.

Only if he was a Rangers prospect.



I do think he was off the table until recently, though.

 

[bigbabybuda]

I'd be happy with this return if I was a Buffalo fan. Krebs is a really underrated prospect.

 

[Mike McDermott]

A caller on WGR just said Eichel is one of the most overrated players in the league and Roy had a better Sabres career and kept changing his argument and the hosts eventually just cut him off.

 

[old kummelweck]

Fair deal, IMHO.

Of the 2 supposed remaining teams, Vegas was my preference. I can't see Jack being happy in Calgary for 5 years, so they'd end up flipping him over to Boston.

There is a chance he might play the full length of his contract in Vegas... maybe even extend. Wish Jack well, and hope to only see him twice a season plus cup finals.

Vegas has used a lot of the expansion assets to build a win-now team. The question is where they are in that process. They got better with Eichel, but I do wonder at which point the way they depleted the farm systems will start to impact the product on the ice. They seem to have most of the pieces in place to win now, though Eichel still needs to recover.

 

[Washed Up 29YearOld]

Lol

not even a perfunctory “thanks for the memories Buffalo”

Dude **** him honestly. I was tearing up watching the videos of his highlights, thinking this is our man who'll win us the Stanley Cup. It hurts. Like a break-up. Sabres fans invested a lot of emotion and attachment to him. The LEAST thing he can do is thank the FANS for the memories, and he's not even doing that. The kids a punk and he's going to make us regret trading him. Consensus will be constantly changing season by season, "Vegas won the trade", "no Buffalo won the trade". (Although long-term I believe Buffalo wins.)

He can at least acknowledge the fans he let down by wriggling his way out of Buffalo and being thankless to the organization that bent out of their way for him and say "I APPRECIATE THE FANS OF BUFFALO.. etc." Even Risto was like "I'm not showing my ass" or some weird sh*t like that. EICHEL TELL US YOU WON'T SHOW US YOUR ASS !!!!!!!!!

 

[JThorne]

Interesting thought about Vegas and draft position: They are relying on Lehner to get them far. We all know what that can be like. It's a different Lehner mentally, but not physically. I'm not sold on them going far.

 

[TheMistyStranger]

Dude **** him honestly. I was tearing up watching the videos of his highlights, thinking this is our man who'll win us the Stanley Cup. It hurts. Like a break-up. Sabres fans invested a lot of emotion and attachment to him. The LEAST thing he can do is thank the FANS for the memories, and he's not even doing that. The kids a punk and he's going to make us regret trading him. Consensus will be constantly changing season by season, "Vegas won the trade", "no Buffalo won the trade". (Although long-term I believe Buffalo wins.)

He can at least acknowledge the fans he let down by wriggling his way out of Buffalo and being thankless to the organization that bent out of their way for him and say "I APPRECIATE THE FANS OF BUFFALO.. etc." Even Risto was like "I'm not showing my ass" or some weird sh*t like that. EICHEL TELL US YOU WON'T SHOW US YOUR ASS !!!!!!!!!

...but jack is an ass.

 

[Dirty Dog]

If someone put a busted up ferrari for sale and wanted full retail price, they wouldn't get many offers either.

My point is, by all reports, Adams asking price prevented him from getting serious offers this summer.

This is a good return...considering the circumstances.

However, a good bit of those circumstances (i.e. making the trade in season, limited bidders, etc) were self inflicted. Here is what we've been told via various reports:

1. The team was unwilling to share medical info until LATE into the process (either shortly before the season started or shortly after, IIRC).
2. Teams noted that the asking price this summer was, essentially, for a fully healthy Jack Eichel, which he was never going to get

These are unforced errors by a rookie GM which likely reduced the return. By limiting his trade partners by not getting medical info out and not having serious talks by asking the moon, he put himself into a bad position.

Adams is a bad GM and handled this badly.

You are never going to win the trade when you trade a top 10 NHL player.

There's only degrees of losing.

Adams tried to win the trade this summer and got .50 on the dollar instead of .75 on the dollar he could have gotten with more bidders.

you’re totally right…assuming all the made up stuff that is complete conjecture is true.

Geesh dude

 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[innitfam]

How does this work for Vegas' cap situation? Tuch made around 3M right?

 

[Washed Up 29YearOld]

...but jack is an ass.

I mean Matthews, you'd expect him to show you his ass after being traded.

 

[threeVo]

The best part of this trade is we will finally start to hear all the messed up internal stuff that went on over the last 5 years. There is a reason the org keeps stressing the importance of team. When your best player only talks to a few guys on the team regularly and divides the locker room you cant succeed. I dont need to be the one saying how bad it was internally (first hand knowledge) it will all come out. I dont blame Eichel entirely, his mentor was Evander Kane. Doomed from the beginning.