Confirmed with Link: [BUF/VGK] Jack Eichel & 3rd-2023(BUF) FOR Peyton Krebs, Alex Tuch, 1st-2022(VGK) & 2nd-2023(VGK)

[zenthusiast]

The good news for Eichel is his buddy Evander isn't doing anything. Maybe he can move in with Jack, show him the ropes around the casinos.

Time’s running out to link up with a raider for a moonlight drag race

 

[brian_griffin]

The good news for Eichel is his buddy Evander isn't doing anything. Maybe he can move in with Jack, show him the ropes around the casinos.

...Hit Jack up for a loan...

 

[TehDoak]

What a silly rant. Another example of your inability to rationally evaluate Adams.


But specific to the Jack trade…... Any evaluation that ignores the actions of his previous agents is living in fantasyland.


Jack’s previous agents at the beginning of the offseason started a pissing match/public pressure campaign with the Sabres. Then ramped it up after no trade happened before the start of free agency.

The REALITY that created was other GMs watching it play out and holding their cards. They were waiting to see if the rookie GM folded under the the public pressure campaign. Once this dragged into the summer months and Adams didn’t crack. Jack realized his agents strategy was a failure. He fired them and hired Brisson.


But the above never happened apparently in the fantasyland scenarios you lay out to attack the trade. It was just dumb dumb Adams f***ing up. I guess he was supposed to magically force other teams to give him what he wanted.

What does Jack's previous agent have to do with anything?

Lots of players have bad agents. The GM's job is to deal with them.

What we are seeing now:

Adams took an offer now that, more or less, was equivalent to what was offered this summer.

So he waited 4 months, dragged the franchises name through the mud, and inaction forced a player to miss the olympics, and gained nothing but wasting everyone's time and hurting the teams reputation?

But I'm living in fantasy land for saying he bumbled the trade?

 

[Dirty Dog]

What does Jack's previous agent have to do with anything?

Lots of players have bad agents. The GM's job is to deal with them.

What we are seeing now:

Adams took an offer now that, more or less, was equivalent to what was offered this summer.

So he waited 4 months, dragged the franchises name through the mud, and inaction forced a player to miss the olympics, and gained nothing but wasting everyone's time and hurting the teams reputation?

But I'm living in fantasy land for saying he bumbled the trade?

why do you think that again? Just this specific point?

 

[Zman5778]

Adams took an offer now that, more or less, was equivalent to what was offered this summer.

There is ONE insider who is reporting that this was what was being offered this summer. And that insider has dubious (at best) connections to Vegas. Adams himself said that he had to fight like hell to get Krebs into the deal. I'm trusting Adams' word on this.

I have this hunch that had this deal been offered over the summer, Eichel would be getting ready to suit up for Vegas about now.

 

[elchud]

They had to wait this long to bring minimum salary back to be cap compliant.

Amazing

 

[Montag DP]

Adams took an offer now that, more or less, was equivalent to what was offered this summer.

Again, this is pure speculation. It's been reported that Krebs wasn't even on the table until very recently. Why do you think any other team was offering a similar package? Criticism is warranted for how this situation all played out for sure, but you don't need to make things up to do that. It just makes it look like you have a vendetta against Adams.

 

[tsujimoto74]

You have 400 people HS classes in America?

Not class as in number of students all in 1 room with 1 teacher, but class as in all the students sharing the same graduation year.

 

[elchud]

I think it was always Tuch and Krebs and picks.

They didn't want more salary. Period.

They couldn't make this trade last week Tuesday because they would be under cap floor.

Edit. This is wrong. I thought the floor was 61.2. It is 60.2. *They built this roster to be able to make this exact deal on day 1 of the season.*

 

[26CornerBlitz]

the neck area of that picture looks off!

LOL!

 

[Buffaloed]

He certainly has California sources.

But I think he's a bit off here -- every indication is that Krebs was something that Adams fought hard for and wasn't exactly on the table until late in the process.

Krebs needed a few games in the NHL to prove to the Knights that he really wasn't as good as they thought he was. Krebs tanked to come to Buffalo. He really wants to be here.

 

[GOALOFSSON]

Nice

Forgot Jokiharju

 

[Chainshot]

the neck area of that picture looks off!

I thought you were going to say his heart or his liver... but whatever.

 

[JThorne]

Wyshinski writes an article explaining how the circumstances handcuffed Buffalo, then says they get a C for the trade. Insults the area. Suggests retaining(moronic to do so for that long).

How do people get such high profile jobs when they aren't objective? Is it because they aren't objective? Sports journalism has flushed down the toilet in the internet age.

 

[EmeraldCitySabre]

Wyshinski writes an article explaining how the circumstances handcuffed Buffalo, then says they get a C for the trade. Insults the area. Suggests retaining(moronic to do so for that long).

How do people get such high profile jobs when they aren't objective? Is it because they aren't objective? Sports journalism has flushed down the toilet in the internet age.

Yeah I couldn't believe he actually suggested that the Sabres should've "done what smart teams do" and retain $5 million on Eichel for the next 5 years, gtfo with that b.s.

 

[Sabre the Win]

The 2023 Buffalo 3rd for the 2023 Vegas 2nd is such a degrading condition Adams tacked on. If Vegas wins the Stanley and we are dead last the picks will literally be back to back... this is Botterill level bad when trading back in the draft

 

[GOALOFSSON]

Yeah I couldn't believe he actually suggested that the Sabres should've "done what smart teams do" and retain $5 million on Eichel for the next 5 years, gtfo with that b.s.

Wait...

 

[JThorne]

Wait...

Yes, he actually suggested retaining 50% to get a better offer from Colorado. Who would definitely have a worse pick slot, for one. Then quotes some anon Gm asking why Krebs wasn't in the NHL if he's so good. (DUH, major injury) It reeks of not doing homework on a trade.

 

[sabremike]

Wyshinski writes an article explaining how the circumstances handcuffed Buffalo, then says they get a C for the trade. Insults the area. Suggests retaining(moronic to do so for that long).

How do people get such high profile jobs when they aren't objective? Is it because they aren't objective? Sports journalism has flushed down the toilet in the internet age.

If you think about it he is to hockey journalism what the Pegulas are to hockey team owners.

 

[BananaSquad]

Looks unreal. Might have to become a Vegas fan. #teameichel

 

[WiHockeyGuy]

Looks unreal. Might have to become a Vegas fan. #teameichel

Have fun.

 

[TehDoak]

Wyshinski writes an article explaining how the circumstances handcuffed Buffalo, then says they get a C for the trade. Insults the area. Suggests retaining(moronic to do so for that long).

How do people get such high profile jobs when they aren't objective? Is it because they aren't objective? Sports journalism has flushed down the toilet in the internet age.

Yeah I couldn't believe he actually suggested that the Sabres should've "done what smart teams do" and retain $5 million on Eichel for the next 5 years, gtfo with that b.s.

The 2023 Buffalo 3rd for the 2023 Vegas 2nd is such a degrading condition Adams tacked on. If Vegas wins the Stanley and we are dead last the picks will literally be back to back... this is Botterill level bad when trading back in the draft

I mean, I don't think anyone is saying he should retain 5M a year.

Going by the "value" of cap space (6M for Marleau = 1st round pick), if we could have retained 1.2M a year in cap space for 5 years and gotten a 1st round equivalent back (prospect, player, or just a pick), it is silly not to do it. Was that offered? Who knows. It's counter productive to say its a non starter without exploring the value for it. It kind of flies in the face of "it wasn't personal", it seems the ownership didn't want to keep paying Jack on principal. Just seems like more pettiness, just like taking away the captain's C was.

 

[zenthusiast]

Wyshinski writes an article explaining how the circumstances handcuffed Buffalo, then says they get a C for the trade. Insults the area. Suggests retaining(moronic to do so for that long).

How do people get such high profile jobs when they aren't objective? Is it because they aren't objective? Sports journalism has flushed down the toilet in the internet age.

Wysh has been cringe for a while, at least Nick Wright is entertaining when he trolls us

 

[JThorne]

Just seems like more pettiness, just like taking away the captain's C was.

Wait, are you saying that Eichel should have remained Captain? Will you still say that when(not if) all the backroom crap comes out? Does anyone else even kind of agree with you?

And yes, he suggested retaining 5m a year.

The Eichel trade would have been no different: Wouldn't it have been worth $5 million annually through 2025-26 to dramatically increase the bounty for Eichel from teams such as, say, the Colorado Avalanche?

 

[Duddy]

Crap trade, but we are already at rock bottom so maybe it works out to be a good trade.

But lets focus on what a horrible human being Jack is, everything was his fault. Now we can go on with all the character guys and win the character cup.