Confirmed with Link: [BUF/VGK] Jack Eichel & 3rd-2023(BUF) FOR Peyton Krebs, Alex Tuch, 1st-2022(VGK) & 2nd-2023(VGK)

[WiHockeyGuy]

Crap trade, but we are already at rock bottom so maybe it works out to be a good trade.

But lets focus on what a horrible human being Jack is, everything was his fault. Now we can go on with all the character guys and win the character cup.

Team is already more fun to watch so...

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

I’m gonna poop my pants if VGK insist on fusion, lol

 

[Montag DP]

I’m gonna poop my pants if VGK insist on fusion, lol

They've already said they will let him get ADR. No team would have been in the mix for him if they weren't willing to do that. Otherwise they'd be stuck in the same crappy situation the Sabres were for the last 8 months.

 

[Shmuffalo]

Wtf, Tuch is only 25? I thought he was nearing 30. Also high on Krebs (the Player, I don't know kids with their lingo nowadays). I like the trade for Buffalo and Vegas... I've made jokes, but John will be a top 10 center in the league; Wish him a successful and speedy recovery.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

I'm glad this one over. For injured Eichel? I'm good with that package. Never liked the boy anyway. Was very good hockey player.

 

[joshjull]

I mean, I don't think anyone is saying he should retain 5M a year.

Going by the "value" of cap space (6M for Marleau = 1st round pick), if we could have retained 1.2M a year in cap space for 5 years and gotten a 1st round equivalent back (prospect, player, or just a pick), it is silly not to do it. Was that offered? Who knows. It's counter productive to say its a non starter without exploring the value for it. It kind of flies in the face of "it wasn't personal", it seems the ownership didn't want to keep paying Jack on principal. Just seems like more pettiness, just like taking away the captain's C was.

What talking about? You don’ get to take a specific situation — Where a team traded 1 year of player in desperation to stay cap compliant. Then pretend its the same thing (valuewise) if you play that 6mil out over 5yrs (1.2mil a year).


The lengths you’re going to bitch about this trade is getting embarrassing.

 

[Shmuffalo]

I’m gonna poop my pants if VGK insist on fusion, lol

Man, that would be f***ed up... but they're letting him have ADR (and good, I think had Sabres been better while John was playing/managing/coaching (sorry for the old/bad joke) they would have allowed ADR).

 

[Jeremy2020]

Solid return given the circumstances. Glad the organization has this off their back.

 

[dasaybz]

What talking about? You don’ get to take a specific situation — Where a team traded 1 year of player in desperation to stay cap compliant. Then pretend its the same thing (valuewise) if you play that 6mil out over 5yrs (1.2mil a year).


The lengths you’re going to bitch about this trade is getting embarrassing.

In what universe should the Sabres retain any salary at all for a player that wants nothing to do with the team for 5 years. That's lunacy.

 

[Shmuffalo]

I'm glad this one over. For injured Eichel? I'm good with that package. Never liked the boy anyway. Was very good hockey player.

He's still [a] very good hockey player lol. Glad Kevyn held out... I don't know if more was offered prior to the draft/Summer, but this is a great deal given the circumstances.

Edit. Also Fish and his other buddy are jackasses. Glad he hired Brisson who at least facilitated a trade, as opposed to public Twitter rants/obvious leaks.

 

[Jeremy2020]

What talking about? You don’ get to take a specific situation — Where a team traded 1 year of player in desperation to stay cap compliant. Then pretend its the same thing (valuewise) if you play that 6mil out over 5yrs (1.2mil a year).


The lengths you’re going to bitch about this trade is getting embarrassing.

It passed "getting" some time ago

 

[zenthusiast]

The no retention thing makes sense as long as they decide to spend in the future

 

[zenthusiast]

If you’ll pardon the expression, don’t be a pain in the neck about this trade.

 

[TehDoak]

What talking about? You don’ get to take a specific situation — Where a team traded 1 year of player in desperation to stay cap compliant. Then pretend its the same thing you play that 6mil out over 5yrs.


The lengths you’re going to make shit up to bitch about this trade is embarrassing.

Lordy.

Saying that the team should view cap space as an asset and have been willing to retain an an appropriate asset level price (if you don't want to use the marleau example, there's the Ladd example, which is 2x 2nds and a 3rd for 11M in cap space but only 4M in cash), either way, there's a market level to asses on cap retention. The fact that it was a 'non starter' when it could have brought more suitors to the table, screams that the ownership simply didn't want to pay Jack to play for another team. It's a simple calculation of value. I think you can set a cap to it, but if a team is offering you tangible value for a small amount of cap space over 5 years, it should be considered.

 

[Buffaloed]

Wtf, Tuch is only 25? I thought he was nearing 30. Also high on Krebs (the Player, I don't know kids with their lingo nowadays). I like the trade for Buffalo and Vegas... I've made jokes, but John will be a top 10 center in the league; Wish him a successful and speedy recovery.

Adams showed he's ruthlessly committed to youth by avoiding a deal that involved taking on a Berglund/Sobotka/Simmonds type.

 

[TehDoak]

Going back to Vogl's tweet from last night about 'external pressures', Friedman had a scheduled interview with Eichel this morning. Given that this trade went through in the wee hours of the night, seems like it might be what pushed the Sabres to push it across the finish line. (that is from the Jeff Marek podcast from Friedman directly)

 

[sabregoat]

So next year Vegas will have $78 mil tied up in salaries with only 11 players signed. Its going to be a fun off season.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

NYR fan here in peace... congrats on getting this done finally.

I think you'll be happy w/ Krebs

You see other Ranger fans? Some of you can be nice people and not trolling on Sabres board. Thank you.

 

[StrompTroller]

sorry if this has been answered some pages back. When is Tuch expected back?

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

I wish Jack good health, but how many people you know that have had neck surgery are 100%?

I think Letang is good.

 

[threeVo]

sorry if this has been answered some pages back. When is Tuch expected back?

1-2 months.

Big W for Sabres by:
1. Not retaining
2. Sending out West
3. Getting a top C prospect
4. Not eating bad contract or having picks contingent on health
5. Getting a top 6 Winger with term

 

[Buffaloed]

Take this for whatever it’s worth:
I definitely disagree with a number of things he said in this interview. But he made some interesting comments about Eichel (starts around the 10:00-10:30 mark).

https://omny.fm/shows/the-shredd-ragan-show-daily-podcast/s-r-interview-andrew-peters-thursday-11-4-21


He said Eichel lacked character. Then said “Jack was never really a good person while he was here. He wore out his welcome...”.

Said Eichel was never happy here (I can buy that much, at least). Said he was never around a star player like Eichel who was always pissed off and implied he didn’t treat teammates very well.

I wonder if he will go into more detail on one of his future podcasts.

At least he didn't call him spineless.

 

[CupInSIX]

So next year Vegas will have $78 mil tied up in salaries with only 11 players signed. Its going to be a fun off season.

Not sure where you're getting 11 from, but if you're looking on capfriendly you should check the LTIR section.

 

[KiwiGriff]

I’m happy for Jack.

This seems like it must have been the most anticipated trade in years. It was talked about on all the broadcasts/podcasts.

When do you reckon there was last a trade with as much hype as Eichel was getting?

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Looks unreal. Might have to become a Vegas fan. #teameichel

Go for it.