Confirmed with Link: [BUF/VGK] Jack Eichel & 3rd-2023(BUF) FOR Peyton Krebs, Alex Tuch, 1st-2022(VGK) & 2nd-2023(VGK)

[Genny Screamer]

I think Letang is good.

Did he get a disc replaced?

 

[billsandsabres]

EF talked to Jack. I know what I will be listening to on the ride home from work.

i know i've been beating on this topic, but i'm gonna keep doing it. i do not think it is a coincidence that friedman has been giving bullcrap insider updates for months and is granted the first interview/discussion with eichel post-trade. this to me is an indicator that friedman has been fish/brisson's mouthpiece all along (wittingly or unwittingly). i hereby bestow upon EF the title of shill emeritus.

 

[Jim Bob]

I’m listening to that right now too - EF on the Jeff Marek show, I mean. Looking forward to Friedman’s interview with Jack.

It’s interesting that EF had an interview with Jack lined up anyway and it happened to fall on the day he’s traded. Very serendipitous. As Friedman said, if the trade hadn’t have happened, that interview with Eichel would have had a much different tone.

A couple of interesting tidbits were that no other team offered up a Krebs-level player and that one of the NHL's 2nd opinion doctors approved ADR two weeks ago.

 

[Buffaloed]

Did he get a disc replaced?

He had fusion surgery

 

[Jim Bob]

Vogl was on The Athletic’s NHL pod.

 

[Rowley Birkin]

Dea and Peters both have hinted at Eichel's off-ice temperament being less than team-friendly.

I used to sort of follow the Knights - my son does and he's not pleased with the deal - so we'll have to see how that translates.

I fully expect Eichel to tear it up for Vegas if he returns to full health & have no bad feelings towards them if that happens.

 

[Montag DP]

Friedman said that Krebs was someone the Sabres specifically targeted, that he was only made available in the last week, and that he didn't think any other team offered a player that the Sabres specifically targeted. So there goes the theory that they had equivalent offers over the summer and turned them down.

 

[5 Minute Major]

I’m listening to that right now too - EF on the Jeff Marek show, I mean. Looking forward to Friedman’s interview with Jack.

It’s interesting that EF had an interview with Jack lined up anyway and it happened to fall on the day he’s traded. Very serendipitous. As Friedman said, if the trade hadn’t have happened, that interview with Eichel would have had a much different tone.

And, then what? The whole hockey world would have known what they already did? That the Sabres weren't agreeing to the type of surgery Eichel wanted and Jack wasn't happy about that or still being a Sabre?

 

[Ginger Papa]

Hi everyone,

I swear I could feel the collective relief across the Hockey world of this being done.

Really happy for you folks that the saga is over. For those who think your Sabres lost this deal, I remember the Sens being ripped for the Erik Karlsson trade.

I’m certainly not going judge GMKA on this deal, as he wasn’t working from a position of leverage. If anything, I respect that he was able to get a Deal like this done once the Season commenced.

Hopefully Tuch returns to form after his recovery and Krebs develops into a solid player. Draft Picks are up to your Scouting Department obviously, so may they nail these.

 

[Taro Tsujimoto]

 

[Deep Blue Metallic]

"Fantasy World" is seeing a GM whose resume is:

-Taking a .500 team to dead last
-Bumble the most important trade in the last 10 years of the franchise
-Laying off people in the middle of a pandemic
-Icing a team that is struggling to hit the cap floor after missing the playoffs for a decade.

and saying "He's doing great!"

Selling is easy. Finishing dead last is easy. Building is hard. And we still don't have anyone in the org who knows how to build a winning franchise.

 

[Zip15]

Based on that Friedman soundbite, the beginning of the end was prior to 2020-21 when he told the team if they were entering another rebuild to move him. Signing Hall gave him hope, then last season was a disaster.

 

[Rowley Birkin]

Friedman said that Krebs was someone the Sabres specifically targeted, that he was only made available in the last week, and that he didn't think any other team offered a player that the Sabres specifically targeted. So there goes the theory that they had equivalent offers over the summer and turned them down.

If that's what EF said I'd be inclined to believe the exact opposite.

 

[Sabre Dance]

And there it is. Eichel asked for a trade before all the messy surgery stuff. Sabres obviously decided his next team can make the surgery decision.

 

[Montag DP]

If that's what EF said I'd be inclined to believe the exact opposite.

Fair enough. I still think his insight into what was going down is probably worth more than speculation from someone on a message board.

 

[BuffaloGooner]

Based on that Friedman soundbite, the beginning of the end was prior to 2020-21 when he told the team if they were entering another rebuild to move him. Signing Hall gave him hope, then last season was a disaster.

So we can stop pretending the big bad Sabres pushed him away over the surgery nonsense

 

[JThorne]

Is it still petty to remove the C from a player who said they don't want to be around? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???

 

[Montag DP]

So we can stop pretending the big bad Sabres pushed him away over the surgery nonsense

Makes me wish we had just traded him then. Of course, no one could have predicted his injury.

 

[joshjull]

Lordy.

Saying that the team should view cap space as an asset and have been willing to retain an an appropriate asset level price (if you don't want to use the marleau example, there's the Ladd example, which is 2x 2nds and a 3rd for 11M in cap space but only 4M in cash), either way, there's a market level to asses on cap retention. The fact that it was a 'non starter' when it could have brought more suitors to the table, screams that the ownership simply didn't want to pay Jack to play for another team. It's a simple calculation of value. I think you can set a cap to it, but if a team is offering you tangible value for a small amount of cap space over 5 years, it should be considered.

Yes there is value in cap space. But you don’t seem to understand where its coming from in those trades (Marleau/Ladd). It doesn’t apply to the 1.2mil retained.

Both the Leafs and Isles needed to free up sizable amounts of cap space (6mil and 5.5mil respectively). The only way that would happen is if they paid someone to take those cap hits off their hands. even a normal trade wasn’t an option.

Whereas 1.2mil in cap space is fairly easy to free up. Just a contract buried in the minors frees up 1.1mil (assuming they make that much or more). Teams have various options in house to free up 1.2mil each season. They wouldn’t need to resort to paying teams to take cap hits.

In that environment no one is paying a 1st rounder or top prospect to retain 1.2mil. It wouldn’t make any sense. If they was any value to be gained in retaining it would require eating 3-5mil. Which wouldn’t make any sense from our end.

 

[Zip15]

Sounds like he and his camp thought a trade with Colorado was very close. What's the equivalent of Krebs, Tuch? Newhook and Burakovsky?

 

[joshjull]

 

[hizzoner]

And now add Boychuk...

 

[Fezzy126]

Good job Terry, f*** them

 

[Taro Tsujimoto]

 

[Sabre Dance]

Imagine being Adams and you're getting set for your first season as GM and the captain asks for a trade.

I have nothing nice to say about Jack Eichel.