Confirmed Trade: [BUF/EDM] Ryan McLeod and Tyler Tullio for Matt Savoie

[ijuka]

I've never thought that much of McLeod. I think that Savoie has higher potential.

On the other hand, if Oilers are in win-now mode and they're aiming for next season in particular, then I don't understand the reasoning behind this deal.

 

[biturbo19]

The craziest thing about this whole sequence is Buffalo just bought out Jeff Skinner. And Edmonton signed him.

So it works out to Skinner, Savoie, burning a boat load of cash for McLeod and Tullio.

Like at least don’t give away Savoie to the team that also just picked up your dumpster trash.

Especially weird since ostensibly, the Skinner buyout is primarily to make an extra roster spot for at least one of the many "small skilled winger prospects" on the team.

I don't think Savoie necessarily had the inside track on that...but he's up there in terms of "upside" for the gig.

 

[Skolman]

I've never thought that much of McLeod. I think that Savoie has higher potential.

On the other hand, if Oilers are in win-now mode and they're aiming for next season in particular, then I don't understand the reasoning behind this deal.

I mean, it's been well documented that the Oilers needed to shed salary.

Ditching McLeod made the most sense after how he performed, and with the team resigning Henrique.

It's just that most Oiler fans thought maybe we could squeeze a 3rd round pick out of a team for him.

As someone previously pointed out, if this was a proposal on the mains it would have been locked within minutes.

 

[Davo Ikinzom]

I've never thought that much of McLeod. I think that Savoie has higher potential.

On the other hand, if Oilers are in win-now mode and they're aiming for next season in particular, then I don't understand the reasoning behind this deal.

They added two FAs Henrique and Arvidsson who are both better than McLeod. They traded McLeod because they were over the cap. Not hard to understand.

 

[La Bamba]

I've never thought that much of McLeod. I think that Savoie has higher potential.

On the other hand, if Oilers are in win-now mode and they're aiming for next season in particular, then I don't understand the reasoning behind this deal.

If you don't understand, take a look at CapFriendly before it shuts down

But also, imagine trading Brett Kulak for a 1st round pick next year and saying you don't understand the reasoning. The reasoning is that the Oilers got strong value for an inferior asset.

Another scenario is that Savoie is flipped at the TDL and has the value of a 1st round pick. McLeod wouldn't have that same TDL value

 

[McFlyingV]

I've never thought that much of McLeod. I think that Savoie has higher potential.

On the other hand, if Oilers are in win-now mode and they're aiming for next season in particular, then I don't understand the reasoning behind this deal.

I think the Oilers are planning for more than just winning next season. By all accounts it sounds like Draisaitl and McDavid are going to re-sign long term. This trade sets the Oilers up for potentially the next 3-4 years beyond this. There's also a very real chance that Savoie is NHL ready and if Kane is expected to be out for a long time to start the year then there is a potential opening for him if they run McDavid-Drai-Nuge-Henrique down the middle. This is the first time in the McDavid era that they've have the winger options to support something like that.

McLeod obviously didn't move the needle for them in either of the past 2 playoffs. He was going to be the 4th line centre this year making 2.1M. This trade allows them, if they so choose, to send Perry+Josh Brown to the AHL, sign Broberg and Holloway to their QO's, and get under the cap with a 21 man roster without needing Kane to go on LTIR and without needing to trade Cody Ceci. If Savoie was able to impress and make the team Derek Ryan could be sent down.

 

[Jumptheshark]

If you did read the thread, most of us are pretty pissed about this.

There are 2 trains of thought to defend this trade--In my opinion

1) Sabres needed an nhl ready player today and McLeod is that, He is a solid 3rd liner when called upon. Good role player. Since the 2020 NHL draft the sabres have drafted 21 players in the first 100 picks and looking at the FWD picks? They have a lot of prospects coming

2) Concern about his size at the nhl level.

 

[Pass the Saitl Sauce]

Savoie at the very least is a pretty nice trade piece at the tdl as oilers don’t have their 25 first

I’d personally try dangling bourgault and the 26 first and try the pump and dump method with savoie riding shotgun with Draisaitl/Mcdavid over his ELC and sell him off just as we did McLeod if we can’t afford him in 3 years

 

[Soundwave]

I've never thought that much of McLeod. I think that Savoie has higher potential.

On the other hand, if Oilers are in win-now mode and they're aiming for next season in particular, then I don't understand the reasoning behind this deal.

Henrique is a better "win now" player than McLeod, so they signed Henrique but needed to shed cap.

So they moved out McLeod but then gained a recent top 10 pick prospect in exchange.

Savoie might actually even play some games up with the big club at some point, it just depends.

 

[Skolman]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1809328470427857121

 

[Maurice of Orange]

A Hyman - McDavid - Savoie line could potentially be scary and even more so on the power-play with Draisaitl.

 

[Pass the Saitl Sauce]

Henrique is a better "win now" player than McLeod, so they signed Henrique but needed to shed cap.

So they moved out McLeod but then gained a recent top 10 pick prospect in exchange.

Savoie might actually even play some games up with the big club at some point, it just depends.

Interesting to see who is first call up if a top 6 guy is hurt. Savoie or Bourgault? (Feels like that question has been asked around the oil boards)

 

[Soundwave]

Interesting to see who is first call up if a top 6 guy is hurt. Savoie or Bourgault? (Feels like that question has been asked around the oil boards)

Maybe Lavoie is in that mix too.

 

[Samsonite23]

Some idiot is talking about McLeod being better then past his prime Henrique. Past his prime had 24 goals last year as a 33 year old NHL veteran pro. McLeod had a career high 30 pts. One was involved in critical moments in the playoffs the other was getting scratched in the playoffs.

I know which one I’d rather on my team.

This isn’t necessarily directed at you specifically because it seems to be a common theme in Oiler fan posts.

Isn’t scoring 3 goals in the final 5 SC final games basically the definition of showing up in critical moments? Especially for a defensively minded player with zero PP time.

Not to say he couldn’t have sucked at other times. It just seems to be weirdly ignored when talking about him.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

Really liking Edmonton's off-season so far, they've righted the ship after years of mismanagement. Hopefully they get their big guns to extend.

 

[Skolman]

He has a sports hernia, he never was “unhealthy”.

People forget that Edmonton was literally the only team in the league who was interested in him, I doubt that sentiment has changed.

Please, zero, site your source on that.

 

[frontsfan67]

I've never thought that much of McLeod. I think that Savoie has higher potential.

On the other hand, if Oilers are in win-now mode and they're aiming for next season in particular, then I don't understand the reasoning behind this deal.

Savoie has WAY higher potential. May make the oilers as early as this year. If not then the year after and probably be a Calder trophy candidate

https://x.com/i/web/status/1809328470427857121

Steal for the oilers

 

[TheNumber4]

The craziest thing about this whole sequence is Buffalo just bought out Jeff Skinner. And Edmonton signed him.

So it works out to Skinner, Savoie, burning a boat load of cash for McLeod and Tullio.

Like at least don’t give away Savoie to the team that also just picked up your dumpster trash.

Well atleast they didn’t give him away.

 

[Pass the Saitl Sauce]

Savoie has WAY higher potential. May make the oilers as early as this year. If not then the year after and probably be a Calder trophy candidate

I see Jeff skinner as a placeholder in the lineup beside mcdrai for the 1 year for savoie to step into the top 6, and if that’s the case Calder is probable

 

[onetweasy]

I liked Mcleod - he is a utility guy for the regular season. He will help the Sabres immediately and give you some depth.

Savoie appears to have more upside but obviously there is risk with his actual
potential

It feels doom and gloom for Sabres fans but I think it will semi work out.

And yeah, I hope Savoie kills it here.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

I get it, Draisaitl channeled his inner Hans Gruber and forced the Sabres to trade them Savoie.

 

[Nicko999]

Proven players will always have more value than some unproven prospects.

People act like Savoie is a sure fire PPG player or something. He might bust and Buffalo ends up winning the trade.

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

I specifically said two-way play for a reason.


Two-way play is the key word there. Speedy, two-way players are absolutely a PITA to play against.

In the playoffs, he became a no way player.

He could become the player you're describing, but he has to make a change.

 

[Davo Ikinzom]

Proven players will always have more value than some unproven prospects.

People act like Savoie is a sure fire PPG player or something. He might bust and Buffalo ends up winning the trade.

The Oilers already won the trade, they didn't have to pay to dump cap.

 

[olli]

Serious question. Who is better, McLeod or Walman?