Beerz
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Idk .. I would probably take Sanderson over Power right now. I think Owen has the higher ceiling but right now he is very bad in his own zone. Has a lot of work to do.
Confirmed Signing with Link: [BUF] D Rasmus Dahlin signs extension with the Sabres (8 years, $11M AAV)
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Revenue is up roughly $900M since 18-19 and the cap has barely increased. Soooo yeah. Doubt a market crash would hurt it considering revenue still increased in the 08-09 and 09-10 seasons.
This seems inline with expectations given it's mostly UFA years being bought. 12.5% of the cap in 2024 is a little more than Fox, Makar, Heiskanen; less than Karlsson and Doughty.
I wouldn't be surprised if out of all those players his first 14 seasons are a small % of cap.
I wouldn't be surprised if out of all those players his first 14 seasons are a small % of cap.
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MarkusKetterer
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Cause it is. They bought 7 years of UFA. They’d only have his rights for this season (last year of his bridge deal) and the season after that.
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Beerz
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By the time Dahlin is 25 he will be the second best player in the world.
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Lol. 7 out of 8 years are UFA. This is Dahlin's 3rd contract, not his 2nd like Fox or Makar.
2010: Taylor Hall - No franchise contract.
2011: RNH - No franchise contract.
2012: Nail Yakupov - LOL
2013: Nathan MacKinnon - No franchise contract until year 11.
2014: Aaron Ekblad - No franchise contract
2015: Connor McDavid - Franchise contract, of course.
2016: Auston Matthews - He's a franchise player and certainly has had the cap hit of one. Term doesn't dictate franchise but I'd definitely count him.
2017: Nico Hischier - No franchise contract.
2018: Rasmus Dahlin - Franchise contract.
2019: Jack Hughes - No franchise contract.
That's going off the last 10 drafts with players off ELCs. 40% not exactly a good rate to support your point.
You are repeatedly arguing against things no one said. I have said multiple times being a first overall isn’t a guarantee you get a franchise contract. I said it makes you more likely. 40 percent (which isn’t even true as you are discounting players who have or will get franchise contracts for some reason) of a group is large relative to other groups. Not very hard to understand
This is such an uninteresting conversation
It’s crazy that he is only 23
Yes but those deals expire in 6 and 4 years, this one expires in 9 years.
It’s ok for him, in 4 years he’ll get 14 M
tsujimoto74
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Not a chance. You're either underrating Dahlin or not fully understanding/appreciating the cap landscape/circumstances around this contract. He was one of the best defensemen in the NHL last season at age 22, and this contract buys 7 UFA years and his entire prime (ages 24-31), and we're sitting on the doorstep of an expected large leap in the cap ceiling after years of stagnation due to Covid. Every statistical-based model for projecting contracts that I saw had him over $10m on a max term deal.
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No, you just pretended that because they're 1st overall picks that other teams wouldn't have two D paid in the same ball park going forward lol.
It's so uninteresting that you keep making multi-paragraph replies.
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Ehh. I think at this rate it's the worst kept secret that the cap will be $100M+ in 4-5 years, and teams and agents are negotiating accordingly.
sabresEH
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What is the definition of “franchise contract”?
Genuinely curious. Because Hall, RNH, Ekblad, Hischier, and Hughes all signed 7-8 deals coming off their ELC.
GirardSpinorama
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By term you may consider it franchise, but not by price.
Though for Hughes specifically, he's absolutely worthy of a franchise contract and NJD got a steal.
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Still seems like the price you pay in free agency, not the price for a player who’s been on your team his entire career
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I think Sanderson got paid based on potential, but I also think he has a very solid chance at living up to the likes of other defenceman getting paid in that range.
This contract on the other hand, is more than almost everyone else. Dahlin basically has to become the best defenceman in the NHL to live up to it. I don't think that's impossible but I think it's less likely than Sanderson being worth 8.
That said, this may have just set the bar for the next wave of top-10 defenceman, so it may not look as high in a few years. Time will tell.
This contract on the other hand, is more than almost everyone else. Dahlin basically has to become the best defenceman in the NHL to live up to it. I don't think that's impossible but I think it's less likely than Sanderson being worth 8.
That said, this may have just set the bar for the next wave of top-10 defenceman, so it may not look as high in a few years. Time will tell.
Why should they get a deal? Team has 7 years of RFA. Dahlin did his 3 year ELC then is now going into year 3 of his second contract. Only has 1 year of RFA left.
Sabres may have that with Thompson but definitely not Dahlin. This contract is the result of Dahlin’s bridge deal.
That’s the standard for star players who signed the most recently. The contract buys 7 UFA years, so there isn’t many to compare it to.
Halakitlikethat
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Can't exactly compare a contract with 7 UFA years to one with 3 UFA years.
Or a player that had 73 points in 78 games when he signed an extension at 23 and a guy that had 32 points in 77 games signing an extension at 21.
