Dreger: Buchnevich is likely to be traded

[Detroit Knights]

This has to be satire

Strickland guaranteed Tkachuk was being traded from the Flames to the Blues... I guess that's the most famous quote but there's been plenty other miscues.

Honestly it wasn't satire lmao.

I never saw that tkachuk thing, but I remember on twitter (not any actual like written stories or anything if he does that, just twitter posts) that he had the vrana deal, walman, husso, etc. Always seems to know when the wings and blues are talking legitimately.

I don't listen to him (or anyone really for that matter) unless it has something to do with detroit and there are only a select few that I will actual give attention to. Seravelli, friedman, and whoever that other guy is that is always talking (dreger? or could be pagnotta, not sure) I just don't believe anything they say. They are routinely wrong and throw mud at the wall. When they are right, it is like they were told exactly what was happening from the parties involved before it "broke". Weeks is just annoying to follow so I really just don't hear anything from him at all unless someone here posts it on the forums. We just do not have our Adam Schefter of the NHL.

I have fun speculating with what they say, but I don't really believe them at all. Dahliwal seems to be very good for the canucks though. I think he had the hronek deal and the nyi trade pretty good.

 

[Robtom18]

That would probably be an extremely fair trade. If Danielson was in the ahl this year, then I think yzerman would be more open to trading kasper as I just see danielson being that much better than kasper.

Wallinder kasper and 1st helps blues in so many ways. Wallinder is the big lhd we need. Doesnt have

I understand your excitement. But I would be extremely hesitant to expect 3 prospects to pan out as top 4 guys. All have great profiles, but prospects with great profiles bust all the time.

I understand. Your right i am excited. Havent had this good of young players since johnson perron oshie berglund petro. I think if army does it right we should be a very good with a playoff window that will last for a while

The chances of even getting one of them are slim. I doubt Vancouver and Detroit will even be big players for Buchnevich.

The chances of getting both are literally zero lol

1 in a million....so your saying there is a chance lol. I know man but a girl can dream right.

 

[Detroit Knights]

Wallinder kasper and 1st helps blues in so many ways. Wallinder is the big lhd we need. Doesnt have
I understand. Your right i am excited. Havent had this good of young players since johnson perron oshie berglund petro. I think if army does it right we should be a very good with a playoff window that will last for a while


1 in a million....so your saying there is a chance lol. I know man but a girl can dream right.

I absolutely agree that the trade works for both teams and is fair and I wold possibly do it if I knew buchnevich had intentions on resigning when it was possible or was at least open to the idea. I just don't see us relinquishing kasper right now while danielson is not playing in a pro league at the moment, even though imo danielson is going to be closer to a larkin for us in a few years than kasper will ever be.

I honestly see danielson as larkin was when he was 18 in the league. They play the exact same way, have the same hockey-iq wavelength, have an extremely calm demeanor in tough situations, while larkin just might be faster.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Honestly it wasn't satire lmao.

I never saw that tkachuk thing, but I remember on twitter (not any actual like written stories or anything if he does that, just twitter posts) that he had the vrana deal, walman, husso, etc. Always seems to know when the wings and blues are talking legitimately.

I don't listen to him (or anyone really for that matter) unless it has something to do with detroit and there are only a select few that I will actual give attention to. Seravelli, friedman, and whoever that other guy is that is always talking (dreger? or could be pagnotta, not sure) I just don't believe anything they say. They are routinely wrong and throw mud at the wall. When they are right, it is like they were told exactly what was happening from the parties involved before it "broke". Weeks is just annoying to follow so I really just don't hear anything from him at all unless someone here posts it on the forums. We just do not have our Adam Schefter of the NHL.

I have fun speculating with what they say, but I don't really believe them at all. Dahliwal seems to be very good for the canucks though. I think he had the hronek deal and the nyi trade pretty good.

Strickland is pretty good, but he is divisive on our board. He fanboyed out over Tkachuk, but he he's been dead on with a bunch of others. The Leddy deal specifically. He brought up how Leddy would be a legitimate target, and in the next day or 2, the deal was made.

 

[Reality Czech]

This has to be satire

Strickland guaranteed Tkachuk was being traded from the Flames to the Blues... I guess that's the most famous quote but there's been plenty other miscues.

Strick said the Tkachuk thing was his own speculation rather than based on information he received from sources. I don't think there is any question that Strick is well-connected to the Blues, but the only question is how accurate is the information he's receiving. Let's also keep in mind that information can change. A source can say "we're not trading player X" and then change their mind a few days later.

There also seems to be a lot of inconsistent information related to the Blues in recent years, whether thats from inside sources, agents or perhaps opposing GMs trying to stir things up. There were the rumors that Binnington was on the block a year or two ago despite his NTC, all of the Parayko rumors which don't make sense to me and of course the Tarasenko stuff. I'm sure plenty of insiders put info out there which actually doesn't happen in the end. Let's see if we can add Dreger to the list regarding Buch.

 

[Robtom18]

Both Lek and Will are considered top blue chip prospects, I don’t see either traded unless it’s a player with a good contract. Canucks will need those ELCs with upcoming cap issues

Gotta give to get. Buch is the best guy on the market and he has another year. Blues are looking for meeeh prospects.

 

[Robtom18]

Really good player.

Sadly I think Vegas gets him.

Who buch. Vegas doesnt have anything blues want or need.

I don't think he's pushing to leave, but the ultimate question is does he see himself with the Blues long-term or is he looking to test the market after next year? If it's the latter, then it makes sense to at least consider trading him now to maximize the return. I personally hope he re-signs with the Blues, but if he's not gonna re-sign then it makes sense to see what offers are out there. True we are currently in the 8th spot, but the Buch return could really speed up our retool/refocus/rebuild/refresh.



If only we had two Buchneviches to trade.

If army could get both with two differnt trades i would be estatic

 

[Detroit Knights]

Strickland is pretty good, but he is divisive on our board. He fanboyed out over Tkachuk, but he he's been dead on with a bunch of others. The Leddy deal specifically. He brought up how Leddy would be a legitimate target, and in the next day or 2, the deal was made.

The leddy deal is actually the one that I initially caught on to what he was saying because that was damn near dead on to the details. I would understand the tkachuk thing, i mean he did live there and his dad and stuff, so i would be pissed too lol.

 

[Three On Zero]

Gotta give to get. Buch is the best guy on the market and he has another year. Blues are looking for meeeh prospects.

I get that, but he’s not the kind of guy I’d give up either prospect for. From Vancouver’s current stand point

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

NHL needs to implement a “finders fee” discount for teams so the Rongos can get him back for cheap

 

[bleedblue1223]

NHL needs to implement a “finders fee” discount for teams so the Rongos can get him back for cheap

Can't offer a discount, but we can throw in Blais for free.

 

[SensFactor]

Excellent pick-up for anyone that gets him

 

[BlueSeal]

I've learned being on this website for 10+ years that Rags fans really don't want to be called Rags fans. That's what he is going on about.

That's funny because when I say Rags and I do mean the Rangers, I'm talking about the team and not the fans because well, that's what folks have called the Rangers, (some) fans and non-fans alike, for decades. What's next, a Canadiens fan getting mad because folks call them the Habs? Folks need to get on with themselves.

 

[Robtom18]

I get that, but he’s not the kind of guy I’d give up either prospect for. From Vancouver’s current stand point

Top line scoring winger who gets ppg and right around 30 goals. If thats not a guy you are looking for then good luck finding better. Petterson will not sign unless.vancouver improves

 

[Three On Zero]

Top line scoring winger who gets ppg and right around 30 goals. If thats not a guy you are looking for then good luck finding better. Petterson will not sign unless.vancouver improves

Defence is about the only position I would drop one of those two prospects for.

Or smaller pieces for a couple good defensive bottom 6 players

 

[SRHRangers]

I would give othmann/Robertson/1st for Buch at 50%

Put him right back on Zibs right side and let the magic happen.

 

[Xerloris]

That's funny because when I say Rags and I do mean the Rangers, I'm talking about the team and not the fans because well, that's what folks have called the Rangers, (some) fans and non-fans alike, for decades. What's next, a Canadiens fan getting mad because folks call them the Habs? Folks need to get on with themselves.

Being called the Habs has history, being called the Rags is laziness.

 

[RedHawkDown]

hope yzerman is in on this

 

[BlueSeal]

Being called the Habs has history, being called the Rags is laziness.

Um, there's actual history to the nickname of Rags. When the team started, legend has it, that they didn't have a lot of money and their uniforms looked like rags. Now several decades, a few Stanley Cups and lots and lots of team history, the nickname (to me anyway) stands as a bit of sarcasm and a middle finger to those who spoke poorly of how the team looked over how they played. Someone can correct me on this, and I'm sure they will, but that's my understanding of the name's meaning and I have a lot of respect for that franchise.

 

[Xerloris]

Um, there's actual history to the nickname of Rags. When the team started, legend has it, that they didn't have a lot of money and their uniforms looked like rags. Now several decades, a few Stanley Cups and lots and lots of team history, it's (to me anyway) stands as a bit of sarcasm and a middle finger to those who spoke poorly of how the team looked over how they played. Someone can correct me on this, and I'm sure they will, but that's my understanding of the name's meaning and I have a lot of respect for that franchise.

Well if that's true it's new to me. I'm sure someone will inform us of who's wrong.

 

[Robtom18]

Defence is about the only position I would drop one of those two prospects for.

Or smaller pieces for a couple good defensive bottom 6 players

I think something will happen soon. Buch is the belle of the ball and several teams want him. Especially with the cap raising next year since he has another year left.

 

[PocketNines]

I honestly can't believe what anyone says about the blues unless it's strickland. He seems to know all of it at any given moment.

hi andy! got any more "stricknasty guarantees" such as "matt tkachuk will sign in stl"?

but for real yours can't be a real post. he is a king clown when it comes to blues predictions

 

[Robtom18]

hope yzerman is in on this

Yep i hope so too. Wallinder would be a great add to the lhd which is our weakest.

 

[ToniJ1960]

Speculating is not trade talks. I am sure army took calls but his official stance has always been that he is a core member to retool around

Especially not "dump" talks you were right to call bs on that.

 

[ToniJ1960]

He's a stud. Should go for a high price.

Honestly I dont ever want to see him playing for anyone else, and Buchnevich might be in the same category to me personally.