Dreger: Buchnevich is likely to be traded

[Three On Zero]

I mean, if it were me at the helm...i'd just be asking..."what else"? But who knows with Ruthervin. They might value Lekkerimaki a lot more highly than i do.

Both Lek and Will are considered top blue chip prospects, I don’t see either traded unless it’s a player with a good contract. Canucks will need those ELCs with upcoming cap issues

 

[Deep Blue Metallic]

So it took you 10 years of using a hockey forum to figure out that ignorant behavior is generally regarded as offputting by those who do not engage in it? Interesting!

Do you suspect Vancouver Canucks fans would appreciate their team being routinely referred to as the 'CUCKS' just because one can ignorantly select letters from their team name to come up with a derogatory term?

Common sense isn't so common these days it seems.

Do you think Rangers haters see a response like this and think "I'm never using the term 'rags' again. It really upsets that wolfgaze guy."?

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Really good player.

Sadly I think Vegas gets him.

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

Do you think Rangers haters see a response like this and think "I'm never using the term 'rags' again. It really upsets that wolfgaze guy."?

I've seen the Rangers referred to as "The Rags" in various media since the 1990s. It's easier to say than "Rangs" and makes sense so it's become an accepted abbreviation. If you are talking to anyone interested in hockey and say "The Rags" they know you are talking about NYR.

Trying to read something pejorative into it says more about the poster(s) than the term, IMO.

Edit: For myself, I just call them NYR in typing because it's less letters.

 

[One Winged Angel]

I've seen the Rangers referred to as "The Rags" in various media since the 1990s. It's easier to say than "Rangs" and makes sense so it's become an accepted abbreviation. If you are talking to anyone interested in hockey and say "The Rags" they know you are talking about NYR.

Trying to read something pejorative into it says more about the poster(s) than the term, IMO.

Edit: For myself, I just call them NYR in typing because it's less letters.

Who the hell in the media refers to the Rangers as the Rags?

The only time I see it is from fans in a derogatory manner and it’s mostly on here, and a little on Twitter.

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

Who the hell in the media refers to the Rangers as the Rags?

The only time I see it is from fans in a derogatory manner and it’s mostly on here, and a little on Twitter.

Media refers to more than talking heads.

In both verbal discussion and various internet forums since the early 90s, I've encountered people using the term "rags" and it was rarely derogatory. Hell, I remember a celebratory BBS post from summer 1994 about the "rags" winning the cup.

To me it was always an example of verbal lenition where the N was dropped to make the word easier. I'm sure there are some people who think it's lol to call them that, but I think it's rarer than some sensitive people might think.

 

[stl76]

Didn't see a thread for this one, hope I didn't miss it. Last night on OverDrive (TSN 1050) Dreger said he expects Armstrong to trade Pavel Buchnevich



I have listened to the clip and he does indeed say this.

Dreger on Matthews' historic season, how Treliving is approaching the deadline and more

TSN hockey insider Darren Dreger joins us to discuss the Leafs beating the Coyotes 6-3 on the road, Auston Matthews' historic run as he passes the 50-goal mark, Mitch Marner's great season, how Matthew Knies got tickets to the game, if a blue liner is still the priority for Brad Treliving and more.

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I listened to the 15 min clip in the link here and they did not mention Buchnevich a single time. Is there another link to the audio for the segment about Buchnevich?

 

[Fez Whatley]

Buch is certainly on the way from rags to riches

 

[Spektre]

I listened to the 15 min clip in the link here and they did not mention Buchnevich a single time. Is there another link to the audio for the segment about Buchnevich?

Click the link and choose

OverDrive - February 21, 2024 - Hour 3​

 

[stl76]

Click the link and choose

OverDrive - February 21, 2024 - Hour 3​

Time stamp? Listening to that now and haven't heard Buchnevich mentioned yet...

EDIT:

OverDrive - February 21, 2024 - Hour 3

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 3 on OverDrive! TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger joins to discuss the latest leading up to the NHL Trade Deadline including the Flames commanding the higher price, Kyle Dubas' revamped vision and the Penguins searching for a possible...

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Starts around 11:40. Sounds like pure speculation IMO. Wouldn't shock me if Buch is traded but sounds like Dreger is just filling air time TBH.

 

[crackdown44]

I always call the rangers the rags and it is always in a derogatory manner

As pejoratively as possible

 

[BlueDream]

If they are trading Buch, might as well trade Binner. They can't risk Binnington having another down year and trying to trade him then.

Disagree. Contrary to public opinion, there isn’t a “risk” with Binnington. He’s a good goalie and pretty much always has been. His numbers are ugly last year because he was playing behind maybe the worst defensive team in the NHL, but he really wasn’t bad.

Even if he did regress next season, his contract would only have 2 years left and we have a cheap, good backup in Hofer. So Binnington and his contract really isn’t an issue. Goalies are also fine well into their mid 30’s so because we have a strong tandem, we won’t need to worry about overworking Binner or him declining.

There are other contracts on the team that are problematic that we should be trying to move (Krug, Faulk). But Binnington is not a concern. He is pretty consistently one of our best players and has been so for several years.

 

[12ozPapa]

I love how an “insider” THINKING something is now thread worthy

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Disagree. Contrary to public opinion, there isn’t a “risk” with Binnington. He’s a good goalie and pretty much always has been. His numbers are ugly last year because he was playing behind maybe the worst defensive team in the NHL, but he really wasn’t bad.

Even if he did regress next season, his contract would only have 2 years left and we have a cheap, good backup in Hofer. So Binnington and his contract really isn’t an issue. Goalies are also fine well into their mid 30’s so because we have a strong tandem, we won’t need to worry about overworking Binner or him declining.

There are other contracts on the team that are problematic that we should be trying to move (Krug, Faulk). But Binnington is not a concern.

I think that all the Blues need to do is to acquire a LD upgrade in 2024, run Krug on the bottom pair next year, then buyout Krug the offseason after, when it's less onerous. Faulk is IMO still a pretty capable player with a more stable partner.

 

[BleedBlue14]

I could see Edstrom starting to move the needle a little bit. Hague, well...he's a young NHL defenceman...but it feels like the upside is pretty limited. Korczak? Is he even a real prospect anymore? He's been around forever and done very little.

If that sort of thing is the price for Buchnevich...i'd hope the Canucks are right back in on it.


They've got defence prospects who can easily match that. Obviously don't have the 1st anymore though. Would have to defer that a year.

Both have showed pretty well at the NHL level. If I were calling shots and Vancouver was asking it would have to start with Willander and I’m not sure I’d veer off of that. That being said I wouldn’t expect as much else to be added on to a package. Would probably shoot for Willander a 1st and whatever. So is needed to facilitate the deal.

Buch does have a 12 team NTC though. Would hope that the success of Vancouver would facilitate it. But most guys do not want to be moved to Canada.

 

[Leviathan]

I listened to the 15 min clip in the link here and they did not mention Buchnevich a single time. Is there another link to the audio for the segment about Buchnevich?

sorry, wrong link. edited original post: 5:30ish

Dreger on Dubas' revamped vision in Pittsburgh, the Penguins unlocking the market and the Flames commanding the high price

TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger joined OverDrive to discuss the Canadiens and Senators dipping into the trade market, the Flames overseeing the league's prominent deals, Chris Tanev and Noah Hanifin's price point, Kyle Dubas' vision, the Penguins aiming to sell at the deadline and more.

www.tsn.ca

 

[Sweetpotato]

Oilers. Kenny loves players with extra seasons of term.

 

[Oddbob]

Which of the contenders/playoff teams even have the right assets to get this deal done?


Rangers maybe, if Blues still really dig Kakko +++ or something?

Detroit could get it done. They've got all sorts of top tier trade chips with Edvinsson/Kasper/Danielson/ASP. But would they really go there for a winger?

Dallas might have some pieces depending on how St.Louis view Mavrik/Stankoven, but i'm not sure they'd move them either. Again, not for another winger.

Jets aren't really the type of organization to move top prospects for short term solutions generally.

Bruins and Avs really need a Center more anyway.

Canes don't make those sort of megadeals.

Vegas and Edmonton have completely empty cupboards and Vancouver already blew their "Lindholm return" on...well...Lindholm, who they needed badly as a Center.

No idea what the Kings are doing.


It's just really hard to see where the fit is going to be to give up an absolute haul for Buchnevich from a playoff team.

Detroit is trading youth for a 29 year old? That literally makes no sense at all for a team trying to build a younger core.

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

Unless he has been pushing to leave, or they get a massive overpayment it makes no sense whilst they are in the playoffs.

If they are 6 points out at the deadline then it is worth considering as he'd get a much bigger haul than they paid.

 

[Dr Quincy]

How many Rags fans would have pitchforks if it cost Miller?

Not a Rangers fan, and I can't speak to the value... just that in my mind it makes zero sense for a team adding at the deadline for the playoffs to add a winger and give away a top 4 roster D. That seems to be more of an offseason type move.

 

[Spektre]

Unless he has been pushing to leave, or they get a massive overpayment it makes no sense whilst they are in the playoffs.

If they are 6 points out at the deadline then it is worth considering as he'd get a much bigger haul than they paid.

February 26, 2018, the Blues were in a playoff spot, and only 5 points behind division leading Nashville. They traded Stastny to the Jets who were only 2 points ahead of them.

If Army feels a trade will make the organization better, it can happen while sitting in a playoff spot.

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

February 26, 2018, the Blues were in a playoff spot, and only 5 points behind division leading Nashville. They traded Stastny to the Jets who were only 2 points ahead of them.

If Army feels a trade will make the organization better, it can happen while sitting in a playoff spot.

I completely forgot about the timing of that trade

 

[Tatanka]

Why now and not at next year’s TDL or the offseason? I can see a huge return either way, but the Blues are still battling for a playoff spot?

 

[STL fan in MN]

Why now and not at next year’s TDL or the offseason? I can see a huge return either way, but the Blues are still battling for a playoff spot?

Theoretically they should be able to get a bit more for him this trade deadline as then the acquiring team would have 2 playoff runs with him under his current contract. During the off-season or next TDL gives them only 1.

If the Blues know they won’t be re-signing him (whether it’s his choice or theirs) then may as well get it over with if a substantial offer comes along.

 

[Robtom18]

Detroit is trading youth for a 29 year old? That literally makes no sense at all for a team trying to build a younger core.

Need veteran leadership to bring up young kids. Fyi buchy is 29 not 35. He is in prime fir next 4 years. His style ages well.