Proposal: Bruins Trade Proposals V

[sarge88]

Just to be clear when you say “they scored a goal” you mean DeBrusk from Krejci, right?

I think a lot of guys could slot in with those two and be successful. To me Heinen benefits from them more than he enhances the line.

 

[TCB]

BRUINS INTERESTED IN COYLE?
THE ATHLETIC: With Patrice Bergeron sidelined at least four weeks with a rib injury, Joe McDonald reports the Boston Bruins are looking at the possibility of trading for a center. That will depend on whether Jakob Forsbacka Karlsson can handle the first-line center role in Bergeron’s absence.
McDonald claims the Bruins could revisit their offseason interest in Minnesota Wild center Charlie Coyle, with either Ryan Donato, Danton Heinen, or Anders Bjork packaged with a draft pick heading the other way. Coyle would be seen as a stopgap measure until Bergeron’s return, providing much-needed depth down the middle for the Bruins for the remainder of the season.

The Boston Bruins could have interest in acquiring Minnesota Wild center Charlie Coyle. (Photo via NHL Images)
McDonald also suggests St. Louis Blues center Tyler Bozak or Arizona Coyotes center Derek Stepan as alternative trade options.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

BRUINS INTERESTED IN COYLE?
THE ATHLETIC: With Patrice Bergeron sidelined at least four weeks with a rib injury, Joe McDonald reports the Boston Bruins are looking at the possibility of trading for a center. That will depend on whether Jakob Forsbacka Karlsson can handle the first-line center role in Bergeron’s absence.
McDonald claims the Bruins could revisit their offseason interest in Minnesota Wild center Charlie Coyle, with either Ryan Donato, Danton Heinen, or Anders Bjork packaged with a draft pick heading the other way. Coyle would be seen as a stopgap measure until Bergeron’s return, providing much-needed depth down the middle for the Bruins for the remainder of the season.

The Boston Bruins could have interest in acquiring Minnesota Wild center Charlie Coyle. (Photo via NHL Images)
McDonald also suggests St. Louis Blues center Tyler Bozak or Arizona Coyotes center Derek Stepan as alternative trade options.

Trading any of those 3 + pick for Charlie Coyle would be a brutal move. Use those pieces in a deal for a legitimate upgrade. Not some mediocre stopgap.

 

[Salem13]

I kinda don't like it, everything others have pointed out as flaws, so yea, it's gonna happen.

 

[BruinsNetwork]

Does Lauzon have #1 potential? Honest question.

I don't think he does, but maybe others might think so

No, but I do think he has a high-ceiling.

 

[Absurdity]

Just to be clear when you say “they scored a goal” you mean DeBrusk from Krejci, right?

I think a lot of guys could slot in with those two and be successful. To me Heinen benefits from them more than he enhances the line.

Well just to be clear, I'm not Bruins Stats, but I believe "they scored a goal" meant Malkin and Kessel scored, albeit on the PP, when they were away from Krejci, DeBrusk, and Heinen.

I would be fine with the Bruins trading Heinen, but it has to be for the right deal. I don't see Coyle as a clear cut upgrade over Heinen, given where both are in their careers, to the point that the Bruins would have to add to acquire him. Donato seems to be figuring things out down in Providence. Who knows, maybe he'll get the call sooner rather than later and fit nicely with DeBrusk and Krejci? If anything, I think the Bruins should be looking for an internal solution to the 2nd line before going out of their way and trading for a top 6 forward. Then spend assets to upgrade the 3rd line which should be cheaper. Right now, I would like to see Heinen, DeBrusk, and Krejci stay as a line.

It also seems like the Bruins would be trading for Coyle so he can play center which I don't think would be the best way to utilize him if the Bruins did acquire him.

 

[sarge88]

Well just to be clear, I'm not Bruins Stats, but I believe "they scored a goal" meant Malkin and Kessel scored, albeit on the PP, when they were away from Krejci, DeBrusk, and Heinen.

I would be fine with the Bruins trading Heinen, but it has to be for the right deal. I don't see Coyle as a clear cut upgrade over Heinen, given where both are in their careers, to the point that the Bruins would have to add to acquire him. Donato seems to be figuring things out down in Providence. Who knows, maybe he'll get the call sooner rather than later and fit nicely with DeBrusk and Krejci? If anything, I think the Bruins should be looking for an internal solution to the 2nd line before going out of their way and trading for a top 6 forward. Then spend assets to upgrade the 3rd line which should be cheaper. Right now, I would like to see Heinen, DeBrusk, and Krejci stay as a line.

It also seems like the Bruins would be trading for Coyle so he can play center which I don't think would be the best way to utilize him if the Bruins did acquire him.

My mistake....I was reading on my phone and the font is smaller than I need. I initially took “they” to mean Krejci, DeBrusk, Heinen.

As for Coyle....I certainly wouldn’t add to Heinen to get him, but, while he not exactly a banger, he’s got some size, which I think would serve the 3rd line well, especially in the playoffs.

In all honesty, I’ve been pushing for them to move one or two of their redundant forwards in order to improve their top 6 for months.

I’d rather they go that route than move for Coyle.

 

[DKH]

BRUINS INTERESTED IN COYLE?
THE ATHLETIC: With Patrice Bergeron sidelined at least four weeks with a rib injury, Joe McDonald reports the Boston Bruins are looking at the possibility of trading for a center. That will depend on whether Jakob Forsbacka Karlsson can handle the first-line center role in Bergeron’s absence.
McDonald claims the Bruins could revisit their offseason interest in Minnesota Wild center Charlie Coyle, with either Ryan Donato, Danton Heinen, or Anders Bjork packaged with a draft pick heading the other way. Coyle would be seen as a stopgap measure until Bergeron’s return, providing much-needed depth down the middle for the Bruins for the remainder of the season.

The Boston Bruins could have interest in acquiring Minnesota Wild center Charlie Coyle. (Photo via NHL Images)
McDonald also suggests St. Louis Blues center Tyler Bozak or Arizona Coyotes center Derek Stepan as alternative trade options.

I’m all in on Coyle

I admit I am very curious on Cave though - need to see more

He looks legit
Plus wheels
Good decisions
Physical

He’s becoming my new Vlady Sobotka/ Jared Knight folks

 

[neelynugs]

I’m all in on Coyle

I admit I am very curious on Cave though - need to see more

He looks legit
Plus wheels
Good decisions
Physical

He’s becoming my new Vlady Sobotka/ Jared Knight folks

i like cave but don't think he's more than a 4C - you already have kuraly in that role. to me, neither are 3C
on a winner. room for both? we need a clear upgrade at 3C.

 

[Mainehockey33]

i like cave but don't think he's more than a 4C - you already have kuraly in that role. to me, neither are 3C
on a winner. room for both? we need a clear upgrade at 3C.

Cave looks good though, maybe they move one to RW. I think they need a strong puck possession guy on the 4th line, maybe that’s Cave?

 

[DKH]

i like cave but don't think he's more than a 4C - you already have kuraly in that role. to me, neither are 3C
on a winner. room for both? we need a clear upgrade at 3C.

I think he can do it

That said Charlie Coyle would be a solid pickup

 

[neelynugs]

I think he can do it

That said Charlie Coyle would be a solid pickup

frederic and studnicka are on the way - i see both as legit 2/3-type guys and have no doubts they'll be good.
JFK i see as more of a riley nash type guy. tradable for me. they have to upgrade that 3C spot for this season.
kevin hayes? charlie coyle? i'd love sobotka back but sabres appear to be good now. your guy donnie has a
lot on his plate between now and late february.

 

[DKH]

No, but I do think he has a high-ceiling.

Very interesting the Bruins could hit on their 3 second round picks in 2015 and not the firsts

Carlo & Lauzon look legit

JFK has potential

 

[DKH]

frederic and studnicka are on the way - i see both as legit 2/3-type guys and have no doubts they'll be good.
JFK i see as more of a riley nash type guy. tradable for me. they have to upgrade that 3C spot for this season.
kevin hayes? charlie coyle? i'd love sobotka back but sabres appear to be good now. your guy donnie has a
lot on his plate between now and late february.

Bang bang bang on

I like JFK and rooting hard but like my guys Sheppy & Fenien i too am a product of physical edgy players

Studnicka & Frederic both have the combo skill and grit

My boy Donny told moi that they can always put Frederic at RW if they need be

The fly in the ointment (what does this actually mean) is Krejci is aging like Philip Rivers

Bergeron & Krejci with new rules will be here another contract

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Just to be clear when you say “they scored a goal” you mean DeBrusk from Krejci, right?

I think a lot of guys could slot in with those two and be successful. To me Heinen benefits from them more than he enhances the line.

Last night, it was Heinen’s forecheck that created a lot of the line’s offensive chances.

It’s funny how when that line scored you take pains to point out that Heinen didn’t get in on the scoring play. Did you point it out when he made a sick pass to Krejci, who fed DeBrusk alone at the net, but JDB failed to convert?

As far as chemistry goes, it’s a funny thing. We would assume that just anybody can slot into a spot with talented guys like Krejci and DeBrusk, but history has shown it’s never a given. I mean, Jagr with two talented guys like 37 and 63 was a no-brainer, right?

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

Concerning Coyle: If we can do a non-roster trade for him then I am all in. Otherwise, I don't like the gamble of moving one of our young guys. As stated above they could have a higher ceiling than Coyle and taking from our roster to add to it just does not make sense for us right now. The kids are getting standings points so the pressure to make a move is not nearly as bad as everyone thought it would be on Sweeney to find a band-aid. However, if Minnie wants futures and prospects to open a roster spot and free up some cap space then this could work.

Coyle is a 3.2mill cap hit and a UFA in 2020. So we would be getting him for 1.5 seasons. A small cap hit and no long-term commitment.

 

[sarge88]

Last night, it was Heinen’s forecheck that created a lot of the line’s offensive chances.

It’s funny how when that line scored you take pains to point out that Heinen didn’t get in on the scoring play. Did you point it out when he made a sick pass to Krejci, who fed DeBrusk alone at the net, but JDB failed to convert?

As far as chemistry goes, it’s a funny thing. We would assume that just anybody can slot into a spot with talented guys like Krejci and DeBrusk, but history has shown it’s never a given. I mean, Jagr with two talented guys like 37 and 63 was a no-brainer, right?

There are a lot of words used and time spent here justifying this guys lack of production and less than physical nature and play.

Until something changes drastically and for longer than 30 games, he's just a dime a dozen third liner to me.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Very interesting the Bruins could hit on their 3 second round picks in 2015 and not the firsts

Carlo & Lauzon look legit

JFK has potential

Wasn’t DeBrusk one of the 1sts in 2015?

 

[TwineTickler]

Bang bang bang on

I like JFK and rooting hard but like my guys Sheppy & Fenien i too am a product of physical edgy players

Studnicka & Frederic both have the combo skill and grit

My boy Donny told moi that they can always put Frederic at RW if they need be

The fly in the ointment (what does this actually mean) is Krejci is aging like Philip Rivers

Bergeron & Krejci with new rules will be here another contract

I don't think there is a chance Krejci is here for another contract. I also don't think it's a lock he finishes the current one here... but that's just me.

As others have said, Donny definitely needs to make a move to improve the top 6. I'm not sure I'd necessarily change what the original plans were regarding that because of the Bergeron injury. If it's a top 6 RW, or LW I suppose since Debrusk seems relatively comfortable on his off side , then make that move and we can continue to patch together the C situation until Bergy gets back. Reason I say this is Donny has the peices to bring back an impact player, but if he uses some of those pieces for a stop gap type move instead then we really aren't addressing the real issues with the forward group. Add a top 6 piece, and work on the 3C position when something presents itself. I've very much warmed on Panarin..... I think Debrusk-Krejci-Panarin would be a fantastic 2nd line behind our big line.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

There are a lot of words used and time spent here justifying this guys lack of production and less than physical nature and play.

Until something changes drastically and for longer than 30 games, he's just a dime a dozen third liner to me.

What does his lack of physical nature and play have to do with anything?

He’s on his ELC, strong defensively, and produced more than a guy like Coyle last year, who is basically a bigger version of Heinen. Would I like to see more offensive output from Heinen this year? Absolutely, but I seem to recall defensive players like Axelsson and Kelly having long NHL careers.

Any time a team can get a 23 year old to play on the 3rd line in the NHL on his ELC, I hesitate to call them dime a dozen. The lengths some people go to disparage Heinen because he’s not as physical as they like amazes me.

 

[sarge88]

What does his lack of physical nature and play have to do with anything?

He’s on his ELC, strong defensively, and produced more than a guy like Coyle last year, who is basically a bigger version of Heinen. Would I like to see more offensive output from Heinen this year? Absolutely, but I seem to recall defensive players like Axelsson and Kelly having long NHL careers.

Any time a team can get a 23 year old to play on the 3rd line in the NHL on his ELC, I hesitate to call them dime a dozen. The lengths some people go to disparage Heinen because he’s not as physical as they like amazes me.

Well first of all, my primary issue with him right now is his lack of production.

Second problem is that he’s playing on the second line, when he’s a third liner as you say.

Third, I don’t find him to be as strong defensively as you do.

Heinen gets the biggest free ride I’ve ever seen here.

——good defensively but only plays 40 seconds a game on the PK

—- “tough” but not in the classic “actually tough” sense.

—— talented but on pace for a whopping 20 points.


Again, run of the mill, bottom 6 JAG is what I see.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

I have zero interest in Charlie Coyle. He's another player that people seem fascinated with and I feel it's because he's from the Boston area. He's mediocre at the dot, and is a C/RW tweener because of it. He has size but doesn't use it consistently. He has 28 hits in 26 games; 1.1 Hits/Gm. He's not really a scorer. He had an anomaly 21G year back in 2015-2016, but he's basically a guy who will give you 11-15G a season. I want nothing to do with this guy.

Jimmy Hayes 2.0

 

[Oates2Neely]

Coyle doesn’t really excite me. He’s broken 20g once. Solid 3rd line center but not sure worth the assets needed to acquire him. Bozak at 5m is awful.

Stepan is better than Coyle and Bozak. But is he worth 6.5m per? Pass

If those are the available options I hope they promote from within

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Jimmy Hayes 2.0

It’s really the vibe I get but I think he would produce more.

 

[Coach Parker]

I have zero interest in Charlie Coyle. He's another player that people seem fascinated with and I feel it's because he's from the Boston area. He's mediocre at the dot, and is a C/RW tweener because of it. He has size but doesn't use it consistently. He has 28 hits in 26 games; 1.1 Hits/Gm. He's not really a scorer. He had an anomaly 21G year back in 2015-2016, but he's basically a guy who will give you 11-15G a season. I want nothing to do with this guy.

So he's Chuck Kobasew.