Post-Game Talk: Bruins @ Rangers: Game ThrLOLee

[Blueshirt Believer]

Well, there is one consolation. At least we lost to the Bruins instead of potentially losing to Pitt in the next round.

 

[Florida Ranger]

IMHO Stralman has made DZ expendable. I wouldn't be surprised to see him dealt during the draft.

I thought Moore was making it look that way, but then somehow found his way on Torts' crap list.

 

[TankLarkin]

Im watching kings vs SanJose...Now this is exciting hockey..Rangers are over matched...and boring as heck.

could not agree more

 

[mrhockey193195]

Not as much fun from posting as it used to be. There used to be quite a few contributors who really understood the game. A lot must have left or I don't see them here as much as I used to.

Mostly it seems to have devolved into terminal whining by people who believe that if their team isn't winning, forces other than reality must be responsible for less than pleasing results.

Maybe I'm just down because the Rangers aren't good enough this year, again.

I hate Sather for constructing a defense that contributes zero to the offensive side of the game. Aside for McDonagh because he is such a special all-around talent in my eyes (the only better I have seen in 50 years here are Park, Beck, and Leetch), the rest are zeros offensively.

I like Staal and Girardi as defensive dmen but they scare no one when they have the puck. Then you look at the Bruins and you see some real offensive talent on the back end. Krug and Hamilton are kids, too. Del Zotto was sold to us as that but he ain't. He serves no function that I can see at all.

When people complain about Nash I laugh. He has Chara and a forward draped on his back for the entire game because the Bruins know that if they take him out of the game, no one is left that consistently puts offensive pressure on them.

On another note, Lundqvist is easily the best Rangers goalie of my lifetime, and aside from Hasek I can't think of a single goalie I would rather have in net for my team.

I think had MDZ become the offensive threat that he was drafted to be (granted he's still young, but to this point it hasn't happened yet), then we'd look at our core in a totally different light. But I agree, we need that guy...doesn't necessarily need to be Brian Leetch, but someone who can skate...fast...with the puck, make tape-to-tape passes, and shoot the puck hard on the PP. Who knows, maybe that's what John Moore becomes next season.

 

[Kershaw]

Stepan may be the worst playoff performer I have ever seen. Not kidding and no hyperbole.

LOL!

He is not even the worst playoff performer on his own team (Nash).

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Not as much fun from posting as it used to be. There used to be quite a few contributors who really understood the game. A lot must have left or I don't see them here as much as I used to.

Mostly it seems to have devolved into terminal whining by people who believe that if their team isn't winning, forces other than reality must be responsible for less than pleasing results.

Maybe I'm just down because the Rangers aren't good enough this year, again.

I hate Sather for constructing a defense that contributes zero to the offensive side of the game. Aside for McDonagh because he is such a special all-around talent in my eyes (the only better I have seen in 50 years here are Park, Beck, and Leetch), the rest are zeros offensively.

I like Staal and Girardi as defensive dmen but they scare no one when they have the puck. Then you look at the Bruins and you see some real offensive talent on the back end. Krug and Hamilton are kids, too. Del Zotto was sold to us as that but he ain't. He serves no function that I can see at all.

When people complain about Nash I laugh. He has Chara and a forward draped on his back for the entire game because the Bruins know that if they take him out of the game, no one is left that consistently puts offensive pressure on them.

On another note, Lundqvist is easily the best Rangers goalie of my lifetime, and aside from Hasek I can't think of a single goalie I would rather have in net for my team.

This post should be stickied.

I cannot possibly agree more. I'd type more out, but typing on my iPad is misery-inducing. I miss you posting on here like this. A great wealth of knowledge.

****, you should post about the old time players even. Would be great to see you do some write ups on the greats.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

We have 2 almost PPG players doing nothing in these ****ing playoffs. Callahan is not an offensive dynamo but has been on an almost 30 goal pace for 3 straight years, he's nowhere to be found in the playoffs AGAIN. This team is ****ing doomed. Too many terrible playoff players. Only Stepan is really young. Just sickening.

 

[Fataldogg]

I won't even mention Lundqvist today. That was one of the most embarrassing efforts in an important game like this that I've seen in my life. I don't think the effort was this game in game 4 in 2006. v This is possibly the lowest point I've had as a Rangers fan. I've never been this embarrassed to be a Rangers fan. I honestly defend the skaters and think they have talent and they make me look like a fool. We're playing a ****ing Bruins team that needed a miracle to beat the Leafs. What a disgrace that was. Absolutely disgusting. I don't even know what we should do to this team. Their talented players are just not playoff performers. Brassard can't ****ing do everything, he's not Crosby.

That's what I'm most upset about. In a do or die game, there was no urgency or effort.

Where was it?

And who is accountable for the team coming out with an effort like that?

To me it didn't make sense. These are professional athletes who have the desire to win. Tonight, they simply didn't have the ambition, will, urgency, etc, to compete. None. It was the worst game of the post season IMO.

 

[surf]

Is this another rant youre gonna appologize for because you were "emotional"??

I won't even mention Lundqvist today. That was one of the most embarrassing efforts in an important game like this that I've seen in my life. I don't think the effort was this game in game 4 in 2006. v This is possibly the lowest point I've had as a Rangers fan. I've never been this embarrassed to be a Rangers fan. I honestly defend the skaters and think they have talent and they make me look like a fool. We're playing a ****ing Bruins team that needed a miracle to beat the Leafs. What a disgrace that was. Absolutely disgusting. I don't even know what we should do to this team. Their talented players are just not playoff performers. Brassard can't ****ing do everything, he's not Crosby.

 

[chosen]

When Stepan can prove he's a big game player in the NHL, I'll agree with you. For now, he's been horrendous. Simply horrendous.

Boy do I disagree with you on him. Put him with offensively gifted linemates and he will be a great asset. He is not an offensive force by himself but he is a good complementary guy to have on your team.

 

[AlternateSideParking]

Shame. Bruins were cooked a week ago. That Eminger penalty gave them life.

Complete meltdown. Everybody. No effort, no desire. The "other team is better" garbage is lame.

The Rangers were driven to the brink by the 8th and 7th seeds last year and were outmuscled in both series.

The Bruins aren't a dynasty. The Rangers just lose faith and focus, including Henrik.

This franchise is cursed. Thank God for 1994 DVDs.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

LOL!

He is not even the worst playoff performer on his own team (Nash).

Sigh.

 

[nevesis]

I won't even mention Lundqvist today. That was one of the most embarrassing efforts in an important game like this that I've seen in my life. I don't think the effort was this game in game 4 in 2006. v This is possibly the lowest point I've had as a Rangers fan. I've never been this embarrassed to be a Rangers fan. I honestly defend the skaters and think they have talent and they make me look like a fool. We're playing a ****ing Bruins team that needed a miracle to beat the Leafs. What a disgrace that was. Absolutely disgusting. I don't even know what we should do to this team. Their talented players are just not playoff performers. Brassard can't ****ing do everything, he's not Crosby.

Snowblind not bashing Lundqvist after a loss???

Maybe this means we could pull off winning this series after all?

 

[NHRangerfan]

Not as much fun from posting as it used to be. There used to be quite a few contributors who really understood the game. A lot must have left or I don't see them here as much as I used to.

Mostly it seems to have devolved into terminal whining by people who believe that if their team isn't winning, forces other than reality must be responsible for less than pleasing results.

Maybe I'm just down because the Rangers aren't good enough this year, again.

I hate Sather for constructing a defense that contributes zero to the offensive side of the game. Aside for McDonagh because he is such a special all-around talent in my eyes (the only better I have seen in 50 years here are Park, Beck, and Leetch), the rest are zeros offensively.

I like Staal and Girardi as defensive dmen but they scare no one when they have the puck. Then you look at the Bruins and you see some real offensive talent on the back end. Krug and Hamilton are kids, too. Del Zotto was sold to us as that but he ain't. He serves no function that I can see at all.

When people complain about Nash I laugh. He has Chara and a forward draped on his back for the entire game because the Bruins know that if they take him out of the game, no one is left that consistently puts offensive pressure on them.

On another note, Lundqvist is easily the best Rangers goalie of my lifetime, and aside from Hasek I can't think of a single goalie I would rather have in net for my team.

Great post!

 

[NHRangerfan]

Sorry. I'm just mad. But yeah. Not every day someone from the rival board comes here for non trolling purposes.

This team cannot succeed with a feeble strategy and a rag tag bottom 6.

Tundra is a classy poster

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Boy do I disagree with you on him. Put him with offensively gifted linemates and he will be a great asset. He is not an offensive force by himself but he is a good complementary guy to have on your team.

Oh I don't really disagree completely with you here. I think the line mates are part of the problem. But I'd like to see him step up like he has done on the international scene. Remember, he did some of his best with horrendous line mates in the WJCs. He's simply not been able to do that at this level.

It's extremely disappointing to me.

 

[Fataldogg]

On Stepan, I can at least say he has scored a big goal in the post season. Against the Capitals. I can't say the same for Nash, Richards or Callahan, all of whom have a much bigger contract than him. Stepan isn't "the guy" in New York. It's Nash. And I think it's unfair to give him the amount of criticism he has gotten. Because, again, at least he's done something.

 

[ltsthinaz]

Fair enough, but let's throw some other names into the ring, and maybe not put it on one player here?

Richards - Horrendous
Callahan - Mostly horrendous, he's played better this series but he's not where he needs to be
Nash - Effort is cool, let's hit the twine maybe.
Del Zotto - No comment. Too funny to even comment on.

etc... etc...

Oh, and to everyone who RAILED me after saying that DZ was going to be traded at the draft after the Gaborik trade went down, I still say you'll see

Problem with trading Del Zotto is you'd have to be blind not to see how bad he can be. Maybe there's a reason, but he skates slower than an old lady (maybe even slower than Pyatt.

Seriously, the problem with trading all these folks is they have little real value. There is a good young core on this team apart from Lundqvist - Stepan (despite the playoffs), Callahan, Hagelin, McD, Kreider, Staal - some useful parts like Boyle and Stralman and Girardi, and young talent on the way. Plus Brassard, Moore and Dorsett I forgot to mention. The two biggest problems are the dead wood at the end of the roster and the deadening coaching style of play.

I knew this season was lost long ago, we're just waiting for the undertaker. But there remains hope for the future, particularly if they continue to draft well, develop young talent and speed, and get rid of the present coaching staff, who are horrible (if occasionally quotable).

Will they do it? I doubt it.

 

[*Bob Richards*]

Well, there is one consolation. At least we lost to the Bruins instead of potentially losing to Pitt in the next round.

Considering how low my expectations were heading into the post season:

 

[NCRanger]

Not gloating. My team is in dire straits as well. We're both floating towards the falls.

The Rangers are nowhere near the Devils in terms of "dire straits".

For all the great moves Lameriello has made throughout the years, getting Kovalchuk and not working on the heir apparent to Brodeur is going to set that team back years.

The Rangers have systemic issues, but should be able to compete with the talent on the ice.

The Devils are going to have issues just icing a NHL-caliber line up for a few years.

 

[mrhockey193195]

That's what I'm most upset about. In a do or die game, there was no urgency or effort.

Where was it?

And who is accountable for the team coming out with an effort like that?

To me it didn't make sense. These are professional athletes who have the desire to win. Tonight, they simply didn't have the ambition, will, urgency, etc, to compete. None. It was the worst game of the post season IMO.

It certainly appears the effort wasn't there. But what's more likely, a team with Callahan, Stepan, Boyle, McDonagh, Girardi, etc. suddenly doesn't try in a crucial game? Or that the team is completely gassed and beat up after being overplayed time and time again this season (and this postseason).

I'm going with the latter. We managed to scrape out of the first round, which I think is a testament to this team's will and ability to find ways to win when we "don't deserve it"...but you can only do that so much. Boston is outplaying us, they have been the better team...no more, no less.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

IMHO Stralman has made DZ expendable. I wouldn't be surprised to see him dealt during the draft.

One of Staal/DZ/Girardi needs to be traded for a scoring forward. Not even a big-name player like Nash, just a solid, 25-30 goal shooter, preferably right handed.

 

[Kershaw]

Sigh.

Could you please further elaborate?

 

[Hunter Gathers]

FWIW, I'd like to see Stepan with a guy like Neal. A true sniper who all he can do is shoot the puck off a pass.

 

[spaceJazz3000]

Hey, winning a Cup would be great and all...but can I just watch a game where I don't nod off from being bored out of my mind and wake up pissed off that we blew a 1-0 lead?! Is that too much to ask?

Listen to San Jose's crowd any given night...my point being that they may come up short in the playoffs every year, but damn it if they're not at least ENTERTAINING.

Glen, Torts, etc. are living in another another era! This team is so behind the times it's laughable! Take away Hank and we're easily a bottom 5 team in the conference. The fact that we've been able to advance a round or two in the last few years is a testament to how good a goalie we have and nothing more. The time for changes, personnel-wise (the "Torts" players) and philosophically, is LONG overdue.

That being said, I'll still be cheering this team on Thursday night, as always.