Prospect Info: Bruins Prospects XXII

[Kegs]

I always find it interesting to look what others think around the league and compare it to bruins fans. I mean hell, if you listen to people around here gush about numerous prospects that never sniff the NHL and you’d think this team was producing borderline stars. Reality is they haven’t had anyone crack the roster since Lauko was drafted. On top of that there’s been a good amount of overhyped prospects around that have been fringe players in the league.

We get it. U hate how the bruins draft.

 

[UncleRico]

We get it. U hate how the bruins draft.

I wasn’t at all talking about how the bruins actually draft. I was talking about the glaring difference of how outsiders view the bruins prospects compared to how bruins prospects are viewed by fans.

People here love complaining about how all these outsiders have no clue what they are talking about when it comes to bruins prospects, but those same people are overhyping guys like studnicka, Vaak, Beecher, donato, spooner, JFK, bjork and so many lesser guys like cehlarik, McFaul, Gabrielle.

Man the amount of times I heard most of those guys were going to be top 6 forwards and top 4 D from people on this website is insane. Yet those same people will scoff at the outsiders rankings who said those players weren’t that good.

 

[Kegs]

I wasn’t at all talking about how the bruins actually draft. I was talking about the glaring difference of how outsiders view the bruins prospects compared to how bruins prospects are viewed by fans.

People here love complaining about how all these outsiders have no clue what they are talking about when it comes to bruins prospects, but those same people are overhyping guys like studnicka, Vaak, Beecher, donato, spooner, JFK, bjork and so many lesser guys like cehlarik, McFaul, Gabrielle.

Man the amount of times I heard most of those guys were going to be top 6 forwards and top 4 D from people on this website is insane. Yet those same people will scoff at the outsiders rankings who said those players weren’t that good.

Every fan base over rates their own prospects. U can never tell until they play in the nhl.

 

[wintersej]

I wasn’t at all talking about how the bruins actually draft. I was talking about the glaring difference of how outsiders view the bruins prospects compared to how bruins prospects are viewed by fans.

People here love complaining about how all these outsiders have no clue what they are talking about when it comes to bruins prospects, but those same people are overhyping guys like studnicka, Vaak, Beecher, donato, spooner, JFK, bjork and so many lesser guys like cehlarik, McFaul, Gabrielle.

Man the amount of times I heard most of those guys were going to be top 6 forwards and top 4 D from people on this website is insane. Yet those same people will scoff at the outsiders rankings who said those players weren’t that good.

Donato is a funny one in that I thought he was getting more love outside the fan base than inside it.

I call BS on all of this though. It’s not like people were calling Beecher or Studnicka future number 1 centers. Saying that Studnicka could be a good two way middle six center was never crazy. It just didn’t work out. Saying that Vaakaneien could be a solid top 4 d-man was exactly his outside opinion scouting report. Just because none of them hit doesn’t mean it wasn’t true.

 

[UncleRico]

Donato is a funny one in that I thought he was getting more love outside the fan base than inside it.

I call BS on all of this though. It’s not like people were calling Beecher or Studnicka future number 1 centers. Saying that Studnicka could be a good two way middle six center was never crazy. It just didn’t work out. Saying that Vaakaneien could be a solid top 4 d-man was exactly his outside opinion scouting report. Just because none of them hit doesn’t mean it wasn’t true.

People were 100% calling Beecher and studnicka top 6. Beecher was much more short lived because he has no offensive game and people realized that faster. As well as Vaak top 4. So you can call BS all you want but that was absolutely being discussed by many.

 

[Kegs]

Poitras with a goal and two apples in preseason action today.

 

[PlayMakers]

The vast majority of guys you listed who “contribute” from our “crappy” prospect pool are in fact crappy themselves. Clifton, blidh, donato, zboril, kuhlman are all jags, Frederic is a borderline jag. Swayman was definitely a very good pick.

As much as you say these outsiders opinions should be printed on toilet. The same goes for the overwhelming majority of people (obviously including myself because I drank the tea many were spewing around here too) on this bruins forum. Outside of the ones you mentioned we’ve seen guys like spooner, studnicka, Vaak, Beecher and others get hyped to the heavens by what is viewed as prominent and established bruins guys on this forum. So in reality it’s all a crap shoot.

The opinions on this forum are no better than the outside sources. Hell I’d even argue the outside sources have been infinitely more accurate over the past 5 or so years than the ones here.


And yea there’s some prospects coming up that you mentioned. I guess if the bar of contributing is physically appearing in games then yes maybe so, but that’s a low bar.

Yeah, pretty much disagree with all of this.

 

[JOKER 192]

I think these list compilers are complete fakes. There are over 1,000 prospects tied to NHL teams, this guy would have to watch 5 games a day, every day for 9 months just to see each of them play once. And once is not enough. All they do is regurgitate and recycle other people's opinions (which were BS to start with) as their own. IMO, their lists should be printed on toilet paper because that's about all they're good for.

Fwiw, I don't doubt that our prospect pool isn't great, but what people seem to ignore is that we do still manage to develop players who contribute. Swayman, Frederic, Clifton, Lauzon, Kuhlman, Zboril, Blidh... even guys like Donato and Vaak served a purpose (Coyle, Lindholm). All those guys came out of our "crappy" prospect pool. And every one of those names was a rookie who cracked the roster since Lauko was drafted.

So, not only do I think the "lists" are fake, I do believe this team adds youth. In the drafts since Lauko we've added some intriguing guys who I think will contribute. Lysell, Lohrei, Poitras, Merkulov, Locmelis, Brunet, Duran, Harrison, Mast, Gasseau, Gallagher... a couple have the potential to be top half contributors and considering we only had 2 first round picks in the last 5 drafts that's not bad. This team is also able to supplement their drafts with their ability to trade (Zacha 6th overall in 2015 for a UFA) and attract free agents (Farinacci, McLaughlin, Boqvist, Geekie).

Yes and no. I agree that they haven't seen most of the draft more than once if that much but I have to think they've watched the top 20-30 a few times even if it's mostly video.

Also including guys like Blidh, Vaak, Donato and Zboril as guys who have contributed. I guess but not sure any of those sweaters are going up in the rafters if you get my drift.

 

[JOKER 192]

I wasn’t at all talking about how the bruins actually draft. I was talking about the glaring difference of how outsiders view the bruins prospects compared to how bruins prospects are viewed by fans.

People here love complaining about how all these outsiders have no clue what they are talking about when it comes to bruins prospects, but those same people are overhyping guys like studnicka, Vaak, Beecher, donato, spooner, JFK, bjork and so many lesser guys like cehlarik, McFaul, Gabrielle.

Man the amount of times I heard most of those guys were going to be top 6 forwards and top 4 D from people on this website is insane. Yet those same people will scoff at the outsiders rankings who said those players weren’t that good.

And most of the current crop of prospects are probably gonna turn out like the above mentioned.

 

[Saxon Eric]

 

[DominicT]

 

[Kegs]

Snipe show

 

[Saxon Eric]

Nassen with his first today ,5-2 win
He's their second line RW
No stats available for Kostadinski but he's on their top pairing, Frölunda in now 3-0
Edit: Kostadinski +1 no shots
Nassen 6 shot 1 for 1 faceoff wins

Poitras 1 goal 2 assist 4 shots 1st

Hendrickson zeros across the board 4-2 loss
Pelosi DNP, they have another game today

 

[Dr Hook]

Every fan base over rates their own prospects. U can never tell until they play in the nhl.

Same with underrating them too. You never know. But it is definitely easier to be pessimistic because the odds are in your favor that a prospect isn't going to pan out as most of them don't.

 

[ODAAT]

When it comes to prospects and what might be after some time to develop I find myself wrong more than right, I suspect it`s the same for scouts too, so few picks are a guarantee, as I get older, I find myself doing less predicting or exclaiming that prospect A is a shoe in while prospect B will be a bust

Truth is, most kids don`t make it to the show

 

[SyZyGY]

For the people that watches the OHL, who is the better player between Poitras and David Goyette? I just recently noticed how similar both of them are.

Both are C's
Same height and weight on hockeydb
Born almost the same day
Poitras drafted 54, Goyette 61
Poitras had 95 pts last season, Goyette 92

Seems like Poitras is more of a playmaker and Goyette more of a sniper judging by their stats but I'll be honest, I haven't seen any of them play

 

[Saxon Eric]

 

[DKH]

Camp going to be fun

Will be at Providence opener October 13th and following week at home Wednesday 18th vs Bridgeport

Pretty impressive how well Bruins drafting has been considering their lack of picks and poor positioning due to number 1 record since 2008

They only have a couple of openings -and a lot of interesting players coming along

 

[arider1990]

For the people that watches the OHL, who is the better player between Poitras and David Goyette? I just recently noticed how similar both of them are.

Both are C's
Same height and weight on hockeydb
Born almost the same day
Poitras drafted 54, Goyette 61
Poitras had 95 pts last season, Goyette 92

Seems like Poitras is more of a playmaker and Goyette more of a sniper judging by their stats but I'll be honest, I haven't seen any of them play

At the time of the draft Goyette was the better offensive player but left a lot to be desired defensively though Sudbury was a trainwreck that year. Poitras was more of a 200 foot player. After last season both took huge steps forward in their development. At the end of the day though if my team was on the clock and both are available I'm choosing Goyette though.

 

[DominicT]

Hope you guys are watching. What a fun game!!

 

[Saxon Eric]

 

[shelbysdad]

Saxon Eric what do you think of the chances Merkulov makes the team and we see something like this down the middle...
1 Zacha
2 Merkulov
3 Coyle

 

[DKH]

At the time of the draft Goyette was the better offensive player but left a lot to be desired defensively though Sudbury was a trainwreck that year. Poitras was more of a 200 foot player. After last season both took huge steps forward in their development. At the end of the day though if my team was on the clock and both are available I'm choosing Goyette though.

I liked Goyette coming out and was watching him in HFL draft- I’ve not followed much since but coming out he’s a pretty good prospect and I’d have loved him on the Bruins. Definitely interesting type they could use.

Poitras I thought was far and away the best forward at DC in the offensive zone and I took in 4 days

He wants the puck and looked like he’s a step ahead. He could really shoot it and looked to. His decorated scholastic and lacrosse background show he’s got brains and hands at least off the ice

The Bruins have everything but an elite playmaking center - add that they are constantly north of 100 points over foreseeable future

 

[DKH]

Saxon Eric what do you think of the chances Merkulov makes the team and we see something like this down the middle...
1 Zacha
2 Merkulov
3 Coyle

He’s at his kids soccer game so I’ll warm him up

He’s the one prospect that can reshuffle the lineup

He’s a center

He’s got options and they got a lot of guys so unless he’s unbelievable I bet he gets October in Providence and Bruins try and unravel all of these bottom 6 guys

 

[Saxon Eric]

Saxon Eric what do you think of the chances Merkulov makes the team and we see something like this down the middle...
1 Zacha
2 Merkulov
3 Coyle

Him and McLaughlin have the best chance to make it this year