GloryDaze4877
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After watching those highlights, I'm pretty happy that Clayton Keller fell to me at #11 in our SIM prospect draft
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After watching those highlights, I'm pretty happy that Clayton Keller fell to me at #11 in our SIM prospect draft
Unfortunate, but like you I still like the swing for the fences approach on a 7th round pick. You want to go grab someone who has the building block tools so that if on a long shot he puts them together he could develop into an NHL player
GloryDaze4877
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I'm not sure I would just write the kid off yet? His first year in the USHL (2015-16) was not a PG year, it was his senior year of high school. If you look a little deeper at USHL rosters these days, the majority of their big producers are 19 and 20 years old, so 22 points in 58 games is not awful for an 18 year old who would have been a HS senior.
There are plenty of other guys who followed similar paths and have become NHL players. If you are going to take a risk on a kid like this, the 7th round is the time to do it.
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Stay-at-home defenseman with zero upside.
Becker is extremely raw. He is going to take a lot longer than other players and even then he may never be a big point producer. He doesn't seem to have the offensive instincts. BUT, he has a great frame and work ethic - if he can improve his foot speed and skating - he could develop into a power forward. Wisconsin went from the garbage heap to a top program in two years - so it will be fun to watch how he does when he gets there.
I acknowledged the bolded and suggested that I am a big fan of the type of pick they made regardless of how it turns out...opposed to the guy who is an obvious 4th line at best, grinder type that Chia seemed to like in rounds 5-7 typically. He turned 19 this past June so last year would be HS + 1 year I believe...most people turn 19 their freshmen year of college...usually October at the earliest. Either way, not writing him off, just recognizing he's a long shot as any 7th rounder is and providing an update that he was not heading to Wisconsin until next year...I was under impression he was scheduled to attend this year and was curious given his performance last year if he'd crack the top 4 lines.
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I'm curious if anyone can answer this. How many great defenseman currently in the NHL have come out of the QMJHL. I can think of kris letang and that's it. I know there have been some highly touted ones recently who haven't worked out like gormley. So im just wondering if our hopes are a little too high on lauzon based on his q production. I remember I thought xavier ouelett was going to be great and he hasn't been. Nathan beaulieu is eh, fine I guess. But who stands in that top 50 or 100 in the NHL from the Q outside of letang?
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How many great defenseman are in the NHL, maybe 20? If you divide those by 3 CHL leagues, 3 major U.S. college conferences, Sweden, Finland and the KHL, you get just about 2 great NHL defensemen per league.
The Q puts out great players. Crosby, Bergeron, Marchand, Krejci and McKinnon just off the top of my head. Where there are great forwards, there is great training for defensemen. The lack of prominent defensemen at the moment is just a fluke.
Edit: See post above. Vlasic and Letang get you to the expected two.
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I don't think you should be splitting up the top ncaa conferences and dividing equally by 3 there. I'd lump college together. Vlasic is a good one. I never questioned the qs ability to pump out forwards. I just think compared to college, Europe, Russia and other 2 chl leagues, they are probably 6th when it comes to impact NHL defenseman. I wasn't really planning on counting a guy like kulikov who just played in the q for more NHL draft exposure (I assume). But if you want to count imports in this fine.
Doughty
Subban
Pietrangelo
Weber
Karlsson
Stralman
Hedman
Carlsson
Ekblad
Hanifin
Letang
Josi
Orlov
Muzzin
Ekman-larsson
Klingberg
Keith
Seabrook
Vlassic
Burns
Buff
Well after typing it out
It looks like the q is on par with ncaa and Russia.
Still the weakest of the 3 big junior leagues in Canada though. By a mile
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I`m putting Nico Hischier on my wish list for the B`s in next summer`s draft. Talented kid, drafted by the Mooseheads in first round (6th pick). Only watched him play a few times this season being early but he`s a kid to watch
Not sure precisely his weight, looks a bit slight, probably 6`1-6`2 but has little hesitation going to the dirty areas, great hands, excellent speed
Stay tuned
Not sure precisely his weight, looks a bit slight, probably 6`1-6`2 but has little hesitation going to the dirty areas, great hands, excellent speed
Stay tuned
I really like this kid as well from the video I have seen. Great speed and acceleration. You get to see Maxime Comtois or have any thoughts on him? It looks like the top of this draft will be a step back from previous two years but Comtois and Hischier were the forwards I l have liked so far beyond th eobvious (Patrick). Don't know enough about the fins/swede forwards - Kostin, Tolvanen, Liljegren, etc
**Mods, can we get a stickied '17 draft thread going?
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Charlie McAvoy an impact player on BU blue line
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/c...r-blue-line/dm54HJdxbi9moUkTpiWFsO/story.html
“He may not be shaving every day yet,’’ said NHL director of Central Scouting Dan Marr, “but body structure-wise, you look from the neck down to the ankle, he’s got the Raymond Bourque frame.’’
McAvoy, a right shot, brings an all-around game to the Terriers. As BU coach David Quinn pointed out, nothing is missing; he can skate, he can shoot, he can handle the puck, he can think his way through the game.
Marr agreed.
“He’s a very dynamic skater, very fluid with his speed and his agility, and he’s got a strong game with the puck,’’ said Marr. “His hockey sense is for real, but what he also has is that physical package, that he can play with a little bit of an edge to where he’s not easy to play against.â€
Quinn knew as soon as he saw McAvoy as a ninth-grader playing in a summer tournament in Foxborough that he wanted him for the Terriers.
“I knew right away he was special,’’ Quinn said. “You know in college hockey, we’re trying to stop ourselves from signing 15-year-olds, but Charlie made it an easy decision.’’
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/c...r-blue-line/dm54HJdxbi9moUkTpiWFsO/story.html
“He may not be shaving every day yet,’’ said NHL director of Central Scouting Dan Marr, “but body structure-wise, you look from the neck down to the ankle, he’s got the Raymond Bourque frame.’’
McAvoy, a right shot, brings an all-around game to the Terriers. As BU coach David Quinn pointed out, nothing is missing; he can skate, he can shoot, he can handle the puck, he can think his way through the game.
Marr agreed.
“He’s a very dynamic skater, very fluid with his speed and his agility, and he’s got a strong game with the puck,’’ said Marr. “His hockey sense is for real, but what he also has is that physical package, that he can play with a little bit of an edge to where he’s not easy to play against.â€
Quinn knew as soon as he saw McAvoy as a ninth-grader playing in a summer tournament in Foxborough that he wanted him for the Terriers.
“I knew right away he was special,’’ Quinn said. “You know in college hockey, we’re trying to stop ourselves from signing 15-year-olds, but Charlie made it an easy decision.’’
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Just watched the highlights. Pretty sure he was on the ice for all 9 goals. Wouldn't doubt he played less than 25 minutes. Teed it all night. Pretty sure he got the game tying goal as well on a great read offensively driving the net. Both assists were rebounds off his point shots. Bad bad defensive play led to a couple goals as well so not a perfect game. I think his best strength is his transition game. Still question both his offensive upside and defensive focus. Certainly has the tools to be a force, probably the most enigmatic prospect Boston has. Could be a top pairing dman, could also be a bust.
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What's Seth Griffith's situation, he's had a strong season in Providence, he seems small but rather strong. Is he expected to play for the Bruins? I never see his name in any posters' projected lines, i have never seen him play, career AHL-er?
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GloryDaze4877
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He wasn't on the ice for all 9 goals for certain because Gatineau's 4th goal was a penalty shot. He also was not on the ice for the 2nd Gatineau goal or the SJ GTG you referenced above. That goal was scored by a RH shot and Zboril is LH.
He had one missed coverage in front where his guy scored. The other goal was a tip from the hashes. Zboril was covering his man below that, so I'm not sure how that was a bad, bad defensive play on his part? He was ok on a 2 on 1 later in the game, where he went low and the Olympique player made a nice move, holding onto the puck and going around him (the goalie made the save). He could have played this a little better than he did, but not in the "bad bad" category.
As far as his offensive upside, what I took away from this is that with Chabot still in camp with OTT, Zboril was utilized in a more offensive role and he put up points. He was strong defensively last season according to posters who saw him regularly, so I would not question his defensive focus based on one game. He had a couple of bad plays during a game, something that can be said about most players in just about every game.
I think it would almost be better for Zboril's development if OTT kept Chabot all year and he was able to get more offensive looks. I have a feeling that Chabot gets returned to Junior in the last cuts or after 9 games, but I have my fingers crossed that he doesn't.
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Comtois is a nice player, one of those rare kids who`s more than capable of playing in all 3 zones, nice touch around the net, very good hands
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