Prospect Info: Bruins Prospect Thread Part V

[DKH]

Hard to rate a guy who didn't have the confidence of his coach and played very little. I was in the neighborhood of the beavers and igloos (despite only having a week of snow last year )and depended on your insight into what was going on with Knight. As you said, he could easily come into camp and surprise. I really hope he does.

love beavers- and cant wait to go to Ottawa some day go for a skate and get one of those beaver tails

as for his coach's confidence- well Peter Chiarelli and Don Sweeney from my view don't have a lot of confidence in that coach; otherwise why would Don Sweeney go from 'the parent who works the graveyard shift and isn't home much watching the kids' to the parent who is going to be there a- lot according what has been reported.

And why now a full time development COACH with a forward background.

Going to be interesting to watch how Cassidy feels about having his boss ACTIVELY involved in the day to day stuff; and FOC Jay Pandolfo as a coach working with the forwards. He won a Cup with Providence assistant Kevin Dean in NJ so he should blend in well- but Cassidy aint running the show even close to what he was.

Very important time in Boston Bruins development as they need to start hitting on Knight, Koko, Spooner, Pastrnak, Cunningham, Florek, Griffith etc and that is why Don Sweeney is immersing himself in Providence.

He can always trade Knight to Carolina or NJ. I think they will be glad to take him

 

[WestCoastBruinsFan]

love beavers- and cant wait to go to Ottawa some day go for a skate and get one of those beaver tails

as for his coach's confidence- well Peter Chiarelli and Don Sweeney from my view don't have a lot of confidence in that coach; otherwise why would Don Sweeney go from 'the parent who works the graveyard shift and isn't home much watching the kids' to the parent who is going to be there a- lot according what has been reported.

And why now a full time development COACH with a forward background.

Going to be interesting to watch how Cassidy feels about having his boss ACTIVELY involved in the day to day stuff; and FOC Jay Pandolfo as a coach working with the forwards. He won a Cup with Providence assistant Kevin Dean in NJ so he should blend in well- but Cassidy aint running the show even close to what he was.

Very important time in Boston Bruins development as they need to start hitting on Knight, Koko, Spooner, Pastrnak, Cunningham, Florek, Griffith etc and that is why Don Sweeney is immersing himself in Providence.

He can always trade Knight to Carolina or NJ. I think they will be glad to take him

You are absolutely correct in the fact that some of the key draft picks at forward need to come through or to team will soon suffer. I am fairly confident someone will show this year.

 

[DKH]

here we go again. Message sending from third party.

I know you think Cassidy is has it all going and maybe now he does but 'once upon a time....'http://offwing.com/2003/12/cassidys-capital-calamity

Cassidy's communication skills have created problems before. He has had heated exchanges with both Witt and Jaromir Jagr during games this season -- equipment manager Doug Shearer stepped between Witt and Cassidy to separate them, according to sources. Early last season Cassidy had a spirited argument with forward Dainius Zubrus, and his profanity-laced excoriation of rookie backup goalie Sebastien Charpentier in front of his teammates moments after a loss in Buffalo last Dec. 7 threatened to divide the team. One since-departed veteran planned to verbally challenge Cassidy at the following practice if he did not apologize to Charpentier in front of the entire team, which the coach ended up doing.

Players have not embraced many of Cassidy's coaching philosophies and gradually veterans like Calle Johansson, who clashed with him often last season, have been traded, left via free agency or retired.

if you cant get along with Calle Johansson there is a problem

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Except this one is officially endorsed/sponsored by Hockey's Future.

Well Heck, I guess that means it is the king of all lists.

 

[ap3lovr]

love beavers- and cant wait to go to Ottawa some day go for a skate and get one of those beaver tails

as for his coach's confidence- well Peter Chiarelli and Don Sweeney from my view don't have a lot of confidence in that coach; otherwise why would Don Sweeney go from 'the parent who works the graveyard shift and isn't home much watching the kids' to the parent who is going to be there a- lot according what has been reported.

And why now a full time development COACH with a forward background.

Going to be interesting to watch how Cassidy feels about having his boss ACTIVELY involved in the day to day stuff; and FOC Jay Pandolfo as a coach working with the forwards. He won a Cup with Providence assistant Kevin Dean in NJ so he should blend in well- but Cassidy aint running the show even close to what he was.

Very important time in Boston Bruins development as they need to start hitting on Knight, Koko, Spooner, Pastrnak, Cunningham, Florek, Griffith etc and that is why Don Sweeney is immersing himself in Providence.

He can always trade Knight to Carolina or NJ. I think they will be glad to take him

The development coach is a great move. I would like to see the team invest more and more into the development of their prospects. This could include the establishment of a dorm type environment. A team of personal trainers that report to a strength and conditioning coach. Meals planning done with a dietitian an prepared for the athletes. PR individuals that help train the kids to handle the media. I would essentially micromanage every aspect of their young lives in order to put the best product on the ice.

I think Don has been moved there to show these kids the organization has a plan for them and has broadened the support network to show it. When you have this many kids that could very well be in an nhl/khl lineup in another city. You need to show them you have a plan and are committed, otherwise they may get impatient. It's very likely only 1 kid gets a permanent promotion this year. The others may be juggled as to remain waiver compliant. The extra commitment goes a long way towards alleviating any concerns these kids may have about their future in the organization.

 

[WreckItRask]

The development coach is a great move. I would like to see the team invest more and more into the development of their prospects. This could include the establishment of a dorm type environment. A team of personal trainers that report to a strength and conditioning coach. Meals planning done with a dietitian an prepared for the athletes. PR individuals that help train the kids to handle the media. I would essentially micromanage every aspect of their young lives in order to put the best product on the ice.

I think Don has been moved there to show these kids the organization has a plan for them and has broadened the support network to show it. When you have this many kids that could very well be in an nhl/khl lineup in another city. You need to show them you have a plan and are committed, otherwise they may get impatient. It's very likely only 1 kid gets a permanent promotion this year. The others may be juggled as to remain waiver compliant. The extra commitment goes a long way towards alleviating any concerns these kids may have about their future in the organization.

While I agree that a deeper focus on prospect development would be great, most of this is completely unrealistic. It's still pro hockey. You simply can't control every aspect of their lives by forcing them in dorms, etc.

 

[member 96824]

The development coach is a great move. I would like to see the team invest more and more into the development of their prospects. This could include the establishment of a dorm type environment. A team of personal trainers that report to a strength and conditioning coach. Meals planning done with a dietitian an prepared for the athletes. PR individuals that help train the kids to handle the media. I would essentially micromanage every aspect of their young lives in order to put the best product on the ice.

I think Don has been moved there to show these kids the organization has a plan for them and has broadened the support network to show it. When you have this many kids that could very well be in an nhl/khl lineup in another city. You need to show them you have a plan and are committed, otherwise they may get impatient. It's very likely only 1 kid gets a permanent promotion this year. The others may be juggled as to remain waiver compliant. The extra commitment goes a long way towards alleviating any concerns these kids may have about their future in the organization.

Not going to lie, this sounds miserable.

They're still people, not zoo animals.

 

[WreckItRask]

Not going to lie, this sounds miserable.

They're still people, not zoo animals.

The craziest aspect would be that these kids would actually have significantly LESS freedom than what they are coming from. CHL, NCAA, and European players all have some modicum of self-responsibility and freedom where they're coming from, and they'd be taking a step backwards in their personal growth by moving into a dorm at 20, 21, 22, etc. The PA would categorically never allow this level of control.

Here's the deal: More support is great (Dietician, Strength training, etc.), but the cream usually rises to the top in terms of prospect development. Kids have to be willing to do whatever is necessary to make it to the NHL...not forced to do so.

 

[DKH]

The development coach is a great move. I would like to see the team invest more and more into the development of their prospects. This could include the establishment of a dorm type environment. A team of personal trainers that report to a strength and conditioning coach. Meals planning done with a dietitian an prepared for the athletes. PR individuals that help train the kids to handle the media. I would essentially micromanage every aspect of their young lives in order to put the best product on the ice.

I think Don has been moved there to show these kids the organization has a plan for them and has broadened the support network to show it. When you have this many kids that could very well be in an nhl/khl lineup in another city. You need to show them you have a plan and are committed, otherwise they may get impatient. It's very likely only 1 kid gets a permanent promotion this year. The others may be juggled as to remain waiver compliant. The extra commitment goes a long way towards alleviating any concerns these kids may have about their future in the organization.

I have heard a bunch of things about this but I've decided it just go all candyland here from now on; go with the flow- keep the posts short and bubble gumish. I'd love to reply about this but its better to just hate a guy like Knight or Eriksson and get banned several times and come back under assumed names with a new IP.

there are other avenues to talk serious hockey talk, no need getting the HF staff and all the haters upset- I'll post but keep it light

 

[ap3lovr]

I have heard a bunch of things about this but I've decided it just go all candyland here from now on; go with the flow- keep the posts short and bubble gumish. I'd love to reply about this but its better to just hate a guy like Knight or Eriksson and get banned several times and come back under assumed names with a new IP.

there are other avenues to talk serious hockey talk, no need getting the HF staff and all the haters upset- I'll post but keep it light

I've knocked Knight a few times on here. It's nothing personal, I just felt he was more physically developed than most in the CHL and thus he was already close to his ceiling. I'll personally be happy if we can get 4 full time NHL players out of our current prospect core.

 

[reffree]

I've knocked Knight a few times on here. It's nothing personal, I just felt he was more physically developed than most in the CHL and thus he was already close to his ceiling. I'll personally be happy if we can get 4 full time NHL players out of our current prospect core.

Past number on any team would probably show it would be a great achievement to have 4 prospects (at the same time) who will have a full time NHL career.

 

[ap3lovr]

Past number on any team would probably show it would be a great achievement to have 4 prospects (at the same time) who will have a full time NHL career.

I think it is doable with this group. I feel that we have 1 D prospect, 1 G prospect, and 2 F prospects that will make the NHL full time.

 

[Stone Clode]

Small little prospect tidbit, in case anybody was confused about the scrolling list of propsects at the top of our board.

Zane Gothberg legally changes his last name to McIntyre.

http://www.uscho.com/2014/08/28/north-dakota-goalie-zane-gothberg-now-zane-mcintyre/

 

[Fenian24]

I think it is doable with this group. I feel that we have 1 D prospect, 1 G prospect, and 2 F prospects that will make the NHL full time.

I agree, I don't think those forwards are Kokolachev and Spooner, Camara I think will have a decent career as a third/fourth line player and the same goes for Florek. Morrow I can see being a 3 pairing D and Subban will be a solid back up.

 

[DKH]

Bruins will get close to a handful of NHL players out of that group. Remember one of the best posters here telling me they would get nothing out of Providence and I told him Sobotka and Marchand would be NHLers and probably JB (although I had Sobotka a much better scorer, and Marchand not as good as we have seen) still, it was apparent these guys were good. Feel the same way about some of Providence guys.

With Sweeney getting involved to rely on his own eyes and not Cassidy's biased reports; and Pandolfo going down to make sure future Spooners dont come up not fully prepared they will be fine.

Love Claude asking what the heck are they teaching you down there

 

[DKH]

my view is Claude 'privately' is not a fan of Cassidy.

 

[Mione134]

my view is Claude 'privately' is not a fan of Cassidy.

Thats good news to hear!

 

[m4tt145]

Late 2014 pick Emil Johansson has been very good the first two games in SHL, logging 17:46/game, +/- 0 and 4 PIM. Not bad for a kid his age.

 

[Shoebottom]

Late 2014 pick Emil Johansson has been very good the first two games in SHL, logging 17:46/game, +/- 0 and 4 PIM. Not bad for a kid his age.

Not bad. Almost 18 min/gm is a good thing. Keep it going.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Late 2014 pick Emil Johansson has been very good the first two games in SHL, logging 17:46/game, +/- 0 and 4 PIM. Not bad for a kid his age.

I have no idea how Johansson lasted until where he did? He was rated 12th by Central Scouting among Euro skaters (Pastrnak was 5th) and was rated by Craig Button as his 61st rated player overall. I was told that he is not the smartest guy in a hockey sense, but in order to be rated as high as he was by certain people, he must have some ability.

 

[YNWABoston]

Based on the brief snippets from Behind the B, the young kids that make the team out of camp are going to be the skilled kids. They made it pretty clear and Peter C. has all summer that they need more skill. No way a guy like Camara is making the team over a more skilled player as he's more of a replicate of other players they already have.

 

[Gee Wally]

Matt Lindblad is a leader among Bruins roster hopefuls
Lindblad is the most experienced of a group of Bruins rookies participating in a tournament against prospects from the Predators, Panthers, and Lightning. The 24-year-old has been wearing the captain’s “C†through the first two games, available as a resource for the younger players as he does his best to stand out to the Bruins brass.
Lindblad is among a crowded field of forwards competing for three open spots on the team, a likely bottom-six player who brings responsible play and can be used on the penalty kill. He can play center, but on a team stacked at that position, it would seem that his best path to the NHL would be at wing. He said he is comfortable at both positions.

“We’ve had him on the wing, we’ve had him playing center,†general manager Peter Chiarelli said. “Part of what he brings is versatility. He’s improving on his faceoffs. He’s just a smart player. With Matt, it’s about having the pace to play because his head is there and his hands are there.

“The versatility doesn’t go unnoticed. You’ve seen that we like players that can play a lot of different positions, and he can do that. He’s every bit in the mix as the rest of the guys that I’ve mentioned.â€

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2...ne-olympics/TGhi9xM83i7xU1wLfzW7EO/story.html

 

[Beesfan]

Can someone who watches Griffith live tell me if he is really only 5'9? I thought he was more like 5'10-5'11. Is he really no taller than Gaudreau or Marchand?

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Can someone who watches Griffith live tell me if he is really only 5'9? I thought he was more like 5'10-5'11. Is he really no taller than Gaudreau or Marchand?

But then you are assuming they are the height that is listed.

Unless he has had a huge growth spurt since starting college, Gaudreau is probably closer to 5'6

Edit, I guess my point is I don't know what height they are listed at, but Griffith probably is an inch or two taller than Marchand, and Gadreau

 

[member 96824]

I've only seen Griffith listed at 5'10" or 5'11"