Prospect Info: Bruins Prospect Thread Part V

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I'm not as worried about Ryan's development. I was really impressed with him at Development camp and he seems to have a very solid work ethic/attitude. Sure, it would be ideal for him to hit the USHL, but grabbing a few dozen games in the EJHL plus staying closer to family while at Dexter has its advantages. Either way, is it really going to make or break his trajectory? The B's are not going to rush Ryan and I wouldn't be surprised to see him play all four years at Harvard. I am excited to watch Donato and Wiley Sherman at Harvard in a few years. Sherman also looked great at camp. Silky smooth for a big guy!
 

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Anyone know if Pasternak played the exhibition game for Sodertalje tonight? I'm trying to figure out if he's over their training.
 

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the ushl was an option for him, i think he had the oppurtunity to go to omaha to play. unfortunately since he has yet to be accepted at harvard where he is commited to play I think the fear for him was that transfering to a school in the midwest would hurt his chances at being accepted. Also it would force him to probably live with a billet and I wouldn't be surprised if his Dad had his hesitations about sending his son so far away to essentially live on his own heading into his senior year of HS, without an acceptance letter to one of the most difficult schools to be accepted into. The question then becomes, what is more important for a 2nd round draft pick into the NHL? Spending your senior season playing HS prep hockey so you can then play in the Ivy League and get an A+ education, or risk the education, play against better competition in the most competitive junior league in the country, and worst case scenario have to play at a school with less prestige (but just as much if not more so in terms of hockey) like a BC or BU, as they can actually give out athletic scholarships.

To be honest I tend to agree with the philosophy that ryan is going to make his money as a hockey player, he has to think that way as well. so why risk hindering your development playing in a league you have already dominated two years in a row just for an education. Not to jump sports (but I'm about to) jurgen klinsman (spelling wrong, head coach of USA Soccer) said in an interview that the problem with american raised soccer players is that they destroy their development by playing in prep HS and D1 college in the late teens, early 20s. His belief is that if you want to be the greatest, you have to forgo education and commit to a youth development team overseas and put 100% of your focus on the sport you intend to play. He cited it as the downfall of american soccer players, their inability to take the leap, and forgo education.

I'm not saying that donato should skip college, I think harvard can generate good hockey players and they have, as have many many other D1 programs. D1 hockey is much better competiton then D1 soccer obviously, but this isn't so much about me being upset that he is playing at harvard. It's that I think he is playing at dexter because he wants to play at harvard, and he needs his diploma from dexter in order to attend. Thats the fault I see. He shouldn't cost himself a year of development skating circles around freshman in the prep circuit when he could easily have played in the USHL and worst case scenario, suit up for any hockey east school the following year and come out of this a more prepared hockey player. He's risking his growth as a player to try to maintain a family legacy. Thats the way I interpret all this. I could be way off, I just think that I'm not..

The South Shore Kings are a good team, I have a several friends that played in the EJHL, and they turned into very productive players in college and some have recently turned pro (ECHL, AHL). But none of them were drafted, all of them had to play until 20 before getting scholarships, and all of them played all 4 years in college. Donato doesn't profile as a kid who should play all 4 years, he was drafted, and he will be attending college as a true freshman I think. He shouldn't be playing in the EJHL, thats a draft year league to play in, not a post draft year team, and the fact he isn't playing the full year so he can go back to dexter, where he won't be challenged as a player, is going to be a lost year of sorts.

For a frame of reference take Zach Sanford, a 2013 draft pick from NH. He spent a year in the EJHL with the islanders his draft year, was drafted, then spent the following year in waterloo of the USHL, and will be attending BC in the fall. That is a more traditional route to take for draft picks taken in the first 3 rounds who are local products. I still am going to route for donato, but I have to say for me, this is a red flag. Not a major one, but something I'll look back on years down the road if he doesn't pan out as the first mistake he makes as a player.

Appreciate the well thought out response.
 

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Looks like Pastrnak is in Sweden for camp:

"After Tuesday's premiere game against LHC loading the SSK on for another friendly match. This time we go to Järfälla for away game against AIK during Thursday evening. We got hold of Janne Karlsson, who was sitting in a car on the way to Arlanda to pick up Pastrnak and took a position track with him." (Translated)

Hopefully, Chiarelli will allow him to skip rookie camp and come straight to main camp. That way he can play a couple regular season games in Sweden, which will be much more valuable.
 

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Looks like Pastrnak is in Sweden for camp:

"After Tuesday's premiere game against LHC loading the SSK on for another friendly match. This time we go to Järfälla for away game against AIK during Thursday evening. We got hold of Janne Karlsson, who was sitting in a car on the way to Arlanda to pick up Pastrnak and took a position track with him." (Translated)

Hopefully, Chiarelli will allow him to skip rookie camp and come straight to main camp. That way he can play a couple regular season games in Sweden, which will be much more valuable.

He is training with the team, but will not play any preseason games. He said to a blog he will travel back to Boston on 1 September.

Any dates announced for your camps?
 

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He is training with the team, but will not play any preseason games. He said to a blog he will travel back to Boston on 1 September.

Any dates announced for your camps?

Makes sense, aren't there some rules around starting a season in a Euro league preventing a player from bolting to the NHL?

Maybe that doesn't exist anymore (or outside of my head)
 

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He is training with the team, but will not play any preseason games. He said to a blog he will travel back to Boston on 1 September.

Any dates announced for your camps?

I believe rookie camp starts September 11, and then there is a rookie tournament in Nashville that starts on September 13. Main camp probably opens September 17 or 18.

What a waste that he isn't playing in the exhibition games, and that he's returning to Boston so early.
 

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Makes sense, aren't there some rules around starting a season in a Euro league preventing a player from bolting to the NHL?

Maybe that doesn't exist anymore (or outside of my head)

That could be it, or the fact that there is no formal loan agreement (yet ;) ) between Boston and Södertälje preventing him from playing - or he is just rusty.


I believe rookie camp starts September 11, and then there is a rookie tournament in Nashville that starts on September 13. Main camp probably opens September 17 or 18.

What a waste that he isn't playing in the exhibition games, and that he's returning to Boston so early.

Thanks. So assuming he doesn't make the Bruins roster he will probably miss around 7 games of the regular season (if he is being loaned back to Södertälje that is).

Yeah - getting three games should be useful conditioning wise, but there might be some bureaucratic issues not allowing it. Who knows.
 

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So what's the deal with Joe Morrow?

He'll be in Providence for the year and be a possible injury call up?

Next year from now should be interesting, with Hamilton getting a hefty raise if he continues his great play that might put us over the top from not keeping Boychuk around. Boychuk knows he's due for a raise after this year with his play the past few years.

Does this mean we could see Morrow on the team this time next year essentially replacing Boychuk?

Something like this? Move Seids to the right side to replace Boychuk and let Morrow grow into his natural spot as LHD.

Chara-Hamilton
Morrow-Seidenberg
Krug-Miller
Trotman

Thoughts on Morrow and his future here?

I know I'm a big fan of his, another young puck mover that is pretty good sized and was ranked a top 20 prospect not too long ago IIRC.
 

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FYI: I spoke to someone in the know today who said Donato is going to get some games in with Omaha. I don't know the logistics but they said the B's were pushing for it.
 

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FYI: I spoke to someone in the know today who said Donato is going to get some games in with Omaha. I don't know the logistics but they said the B's were pushing for it.

I know the geography is different, but here in Minnesota, High School kids do this all the time. Most USHL games are on the weekends, so Donato will likely have to miss some Friday classes for about 3 or 4 weeks, and will get 10-12 games in that way. He can then play in the spring for the playoffs.
 

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Heard that Subban was seriously impressive at Gary Roberts camp this year
 

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Jared Knight no longer in the top 20 prospects.

I have mine coming out and a group him 2-4 as I'll explain with Koko and Spooner. Neither is Ferlin yet some prospects I saw all 5 days at DC and read up on 2 major Draft Guides and asked about are on the list. Some of these guys will lucky to play 50 games in the AHL IMO; but what do I know I called Marchand as a player when 80% wanted to deal him in 2010 for Chris Drury who would score 1 more goal in his career. My advantage was I saw Marchand play live a lot and wasn't up in my igloo is Red Deer saying 'Brad Marchand sucks' everytime I saw a beaver in my brook

These lists are like ass holes we all have one
 
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I have mine coming out and a group him 2-4 as I'll explain with Koko and Spooner. Neither is Ferlin yet some prospects I saw all 5 days at DC and read up on 2 major Draft Guides and asked about are on the list. Some of these guys will lucky to play 50 games in the AHL IMO; but what do I know I called Marchand as a player when 80% wanted to deal him in 2010 for Chris Drury who would score 1 more goal in his career. My advantage was I saw Marchand play live a lot and wasn't up in my igloo is Red Deer saying 'Brad Marchand sucks' everytime I saw a beaver in my brook

These lists are like ass holes we all have one

Hard to rate a guy who didn't have the confidence of his coach and played very little. I was in the neighborhood of the beavers and igloos (despite only having a week of snow last year )and depended on your insight into what was going on with Knight. As you said, he could easily come into camp and surprise. I really hope he does.
 
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