Proposal: Brodin to Habs

[Cobra Commander]

I think you need to add more.

I'd say it's unlikely. Spurgeon might be the first to go with age/contract. I've been floating the idea of Spurgeon(retained) for Kapanen+Liljegren over on HFWild.

Add more??? Fine take Jordie Benn.

 

[Baksfamous112]

would Sandin+1st as a base from the Leafs for Brodin be of interest to Minnesota?

That’s a very solid offer.

Suzuki and a MTL 1st is a better offer.

But that offer will NEVER be on the table from the Habs

 

[Cobra Commander]

Just as a reminder, the original deal was Brodin for Suzuki and Schlemko. There was discussion of possibly adding a CBJ or MTL 2nd to the deal, but that more or less is a minor aspect, and I believe OP phrased it as something along the lines of "depending on who the better negotiator is"



I was the one that proposed the deal of Brodin for Suzuki and Schlemko in the Coyle thread, which OP brought to a new thread. I would hope Schlemko can be involved because I would like a warm body to play LD so we don't need to call anyone up from Iowa.

I am on board with a Brodin for Suzuki+Schlemko deal.

Ok Suzuki + Shlemko for Brodin

Deal?

 

[NHL WAR]

In my fantasy bubble, Montreal says yes because it would provide them with a guy who can be a real solid top 4 guy for the next decade, and with Domi, Kotka and Poehling, they won't necessarily feel as much pain losing Suzuki, because eventually one of those four guys will probably be expendable anyway.

Kinda crazy how quickly it went from Montreal having no young talented centers to that being an area of surplus. This hypothetical trade feels similar to the Drouin trade, though. Blue chip prospect for young player at positional need. Risky business...... Sergachev could've fit the bill for that top 4 defenseman for the next decade.... plug one leak to spring another one. If Domi, Kotkaniemi and Poehling keep it up though, you are right, Suzuki could the odd man out and an excellent trade chip.

 

[AKL]

Ok Suzuki + Shlemko for Brodin

Deal?

Deal for me

 

[Brando]

Brodin is getting way overrated in here. No way the Habs would have to add.

 

[Captain Mountain]

There were more than a few posts in the Coyle thread stating that Brodin is exactly what Montreal needs, which is why this thread was created.

I know, I just disagree. Montreal has a pretty strong D core when it comes to quick passing out of the D-zone and they'll have plenty of defensive stability on the back end with Weber finally healthy and Juulsen returning from injury tonight in Minnesota.

Its why Montreal is one of the better xGA and chance against teams in the NHL.

Minny and Montreal have had the same issue defensively this season. Goaltending.

Earlier in the year, especially when Weber was out, Montreal could have used someone like Brodin. But That's not really the case right now.

Also, the list of players that are "exactly what Montreal needs" compiled from Montreal fans here consists of every top-3 NHL D-man in the NHL.

 

[Cobra Commander]

Kinda crazy how quickly it went from Montreal having no young talented centers to that being an area of surplus. This hypothetical trade feels similar to the Drouin trade, though. Blue chip prospect for young player at positional need. Risky business...... Sergachev could've fit the bill for that top 4 defenseman for the next decade.... plug one leak to spring another one. If Domi, Kotkaniemi and Poehling keep it up though, you are right, Suzuki could the odd man out and an excellent trade chip.

Sergachev is a Beaulieu with more offense and is nothing more than a bottom pairing D-Man right now. Drouin is breaking out as a 1st line LW this season. Right now we are winning this trade.

 

[Cobra Commander]

Brodin is getting way overrated in here. No way the Habs would have to add.

We’ll give them Shlemko. The deal is made ladies and gentlemen.

 

[Cobra Commander]

I know, I just disagree. Montreal has a pretty strong D core when it comes to quick passing out of the D-zone and they'll have plenty of defensive stability on the back end with Weber finally healthy and Juulsen returning from injury tonight in Minnesota.

Its why Montreal is one of the better xGA and chance against teams in the NHL.

Minny and Montreal have had the same issue defensively this season. Goaltending.

Earlier in the year, especially when Weber was out, Montreal could have used someone like Brodin. But That's not really the case right now.

Also, the list of players that are "exactly what Montreal needs" compiled from Montreal fans here consists of every top-3 NHL D-man in the NHL.

Kulak-Weber
Brodin-Petry
Reilly-Juulsen

This is beautifully well balanced, you have to admit..

 

[CHaracter79]

So do we have a deal?

Brodin

For

Suzuki

nope. habs dont give up one of their best forward prospects.. especially since he shoots R and plays wing tons... which is exactly where the habs will need help in a year or two..

 

[Cobra Commander]

nope. habs dont give up one of their best forward prospects.. especially since he shoots R and plays wing tons... which is exactly where the habs will need help in a year or two..

Dude come on. I just fixed our defense by bringing in Brodin. He’s the perfect partner for Petry to be able to pinch more and generate even more offense. We want to go for the Cup as soon as possible don’t we?

 

[NHL WAR]

Drouin is breaking out as a 1st line LW this season.

Good to see him starting to realize that potential. If you had asked me 5 years ago, I probably would've said he would have won an Art Ross by now.

 

[57special]

Brodin is getting way overrated in here. No way the Habs would have to add.

Right, because prospects are worth more than NHL regulars!

 

[Homesick]

Sergachev is a Beaulieu with more offense and is nothing more than a bottom pairing D-Man right now. Drouin is breaking out as a 1st line LW this season. Right now we are winning this trade.

Bitter much? Sergachev is playing on the 2nd pairing for the best team in the league as a 20 year old.

Drouin is a Sam Gagner with more offense

 

[57special]

We’ll give them Shlemko. The deal is made ladies and gentlemen.

Nope. Not from me. Suzuki is a prospect who has proven nothing in the NHL. Schlemko is not a need, at all.

 

[Cobra Commander]

Good to see him starting to realize that potential. If you had asked me 5 years ago, I probably would've said he would have won an Art Ross by now.

I was getting worried after last season when he was thrown to the wolves and expected to be our #1 center. He’s clearly an elite winger now due to his incredible speed and great vision. He’s been adjusting very well this season and is really starting to figure out how to play in the NHL.

 

[Bazeek]

Right, because prospects are worth more than NHL regulars!

I mean... depending on the prospect and the regular, yeah, sometimes.

 

[AKL]

Nope. Not from me. Suzuki is a prospect who has proven nothing in the NHL. Schlemko is not a need, at all.

He's a blue chip prospect with 1C potential because proven 1C's aren't available, or certainly aren't cheap if they are.
I'm curious to know how you would address our glaring need for a young top 6 center.

 

[Deficient Mode]

Problem with Habs trading for Brodin is that he doesn't move the puck nearly well enough to cover for Weber's flaws in that area. He's far from an ideal partner for Weber even if he is better than the revolving door of left-handed d the Habs otherwise have. He could work well with Petry maybe.

It doesn't make sense for a middle of the pack team to sacrifice a potential top 6 player to bring in a defense-only defenseman imo.

 

[Cobra Commander]

Bitter much? Sergachev is playing on the 2nd pairing for the best team in the league as a 20 year old.

Drouin is a Sam Gagner with more offense

Calm down, I hope he does well there. But let’s be honest, he’s not great defensively and his decision making is bad at times. He has regressed from last season. His offensive numbers were nice last season as he was sheltered and played in good offensive situations with elite offensive players.

It’s all up to him if he’s gonna put the work in and become better. It remains to be seen with Sergachev.

 

[57special]

He's a blue chip prospect with 1C potential because proven 1C's aren't available, or certainly aren't cheap if they are.
I'm curious to know how you would address our glaring need for a young top 6 center.

Khovanov has similar stats to Suzuki this year. What's wrong with him?

 

[57special]

Problem with Habs trading for Brodin is that he doesn't move the puck nearly well enough to cover for Weber's flaws in that area. He's far from an ideal partner for Weber even if he is better than the revolving door of left-handed d the Habs otherwise have. He could work well with Petry maybe.

It doesn't make sense for a middle of the pack team to sacrifice a potential top 6 player to bring in a defense-only defenseman imo.

How much do you watch Brodin? Sounds like not very much. He moves the puck plenty well. More importantly, he gets to pucks quickly, and has such good feet that he is able to evade forecheckers.

 

[Cobra Commander]

Problem with Habs trading for Brodin is that he doesn't move the puck nearly well enough to cover for Weber's flaws in that area. He's far from an ideal partner for Weber even if he is better than the revolving door of left-handed d the Habs otherwise have. He could work well with Petry maybe.

It doesn't make sense for a middle of the pack team to sacrifice a potential top 6 player to bring in a defense-only defenseman imo.

Weber moves the puck just fine, his passes are always crisp and right out of the zone.

 

[Captain Mountain]

How much do you watch Brodin? Sounds like not very much. He moves the puck plenty well. More importantly, he gets to pucks quickly, and has such good feet that he is able to evade forecheckers.

About as much as they watch Weber apparently.

Like, I don't think Brodin is a fit for Montreal, but that assessment is off-base for both Brodin (who is more than just a defensive D-man) and Weber (who isn't a flawed puck mover so much as it isn't a strength).