Speculation: Brian Wilde just said assistants and Lefebvre gone

[habsfan909]

Bergevin is a coward. A real leader would fall on his sword at this point.

 

[lo striver]

Bergevin is a coward. A real leader would fall on his sword at this point.

Dunning-Kruger effect prevents him from doing that

 

[Nevins]

I love Muller, but he has done **** all. Only person that shouldn't be fired is Waite.

Habs are not bad on PP.

 

[Laurentide]

Yeah, Wilde is volatile and can turn his hate on you, on a dime. As far as the players go, there is also a hockey culture that encourages the superhero behavior that gets players in trouble, once they're out of hockey. The "attaboy" thing, pat on the back from teammates when a player who just got plastered or suffers a major injury, comes back to a game, often times when he's no longer needed or the game's outcome is a foregone conclusion whether or not he returns to it.

That's the caveman culture that needs to be eradicated. If you've just been concussed and you're sent to a dark room, don't try to come back and pretend all is good. You've been concussed -- any further posturing just has the potential of stealing away big chunks of your quality of life once you're out of the game. Players may be more and more college and university educated but for some reason, the superhero culture doesn't seem to have abated all that much.

It's not caveman culture, it's modern corporate culture; the same corporate culture in which people refuse to take their measly 2 weeks paid vacation out of fear that their employers will come to the realization that if they can live without them for 2 weeks they can likely live without them entirely. It's about protecting your job. There's an old football adage that you don't lose your job to injury but in practice this happens all the time. Tom Brady got his job when he took over for an injured Drew Bledsoe. So sure the player will go to the quiet room and the whole time his only thought will be "who is taking my roster spot away from me?"

Maybe Sidney Crosby can take time off and not have to worry but most players are only in the NHL by the skin of their teeth and there's 10 guys in the minors just waiting for a chance to take their job away from them.

 

[Runner77]

It's not caveman culture, it's modern corporate culture; the same corporate culture in which people refuse to take their measly 2 weeks paid vacation out of fear that their employers will come to the realization that if they can live without them for 2 weeks they can likely live without them entirely. It's about protecting your job. There's an old football adage that you don't lose your job to injury but in practice this happens all the time. Tom Brady got his job when he took over for an injured Drew Bledsoe. So sure the player will go to the quiet room and the whole time his only thought will be "who is taking my roster spot away from me?"

Maybe Sidney Crosby can take time off and not have to worry but most players are only in the NHL by the skin of their teeth and there's 10 guys in the minors just waiting for a chance to take their job away from them.

There are parallels with business but losing your job is nothing like permanently losing your health -- so that's the caveman part right there.

Plus, the examples you gave involve star players -- these guys always get their jobs back. But, I can definitely see your point for journeymen-types or players who are not established, they're going to want to do anything, even put themselves at risk permanently, not to lose their livelihood.

 

[SirClintonPortis]

All part of the plan...for Bergey to stay another three years. Fire assistants this year. Fire Julien next year and hire Vigneault. Then he gets a free year for Vigneault to work with the guys. Then Bergey gets fired at last.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Habs are not bad on PP.

With no Weber, no Top Pairing LHD and no #1 (OR #2) C they are amazing on the PP

Keep Muller

 

[MasterDecoy]

I'll believe it when I see it

 

[BLONG7]

Bergevin is a coward. A real leader would fall on his sword at this point.

The only time he has done that, was to save another coward, Therrien...

 

[Gally11]

I’m going to wait to see who the foxhole replacements are before I get too excited

 

[MXD]

I don't have anything against this (as long as Waite stays put) -- and I really like Kirk Muller : I just think coaches should bring their own people, and in fact, Muller has been brought here to help with something MT lacked (and which CJ doesn't seem to lack). Ducharme time in the A?

More importantly : Why has there been no axing in the pro scouting department?

 

[jaffy27]

Bergevin is a coward. A real leader would fall on his sword at this point.

He's not Samurai........if Lefebvre gets fired, it's great news!

 

[jaffy27]

I don't have anything against this (as long as Waite stays put) -- and I really like Kirk Muller : I just think coaches should bring their own people, and in fact, Muller has been brought here to help with something MT lacked (and which CJ doesn't seem to lack). Ducharme time in the A?

More importantly : Why has there been no axing in the pro scouting department?

Probably waiting for end of season. That pro side needs a serious shake up

 

[Andrei79]

Yeah, Wilde is volatile and can turn his hate on you, on a dime. As far as the players go, there is also a hockey culture that encourages the superhero behavior that gets players in trouble, once they're out of hockey. The "attaboy" thing, pat on the back from teammates when a player who just got plastered or suffers a major injury, comes back to a game, often times when he's no longer needed or the game's outcome is a foregone conclusion whether or not he returns to it.

That's the caveman culture that needs to be eradicated. If you've just been concussed and you're sent to a dark room, don't try to come back and pretend all is good. You've been concussed -- any further posturing just has the potential of stealing away big chunks of your quality of life once you're out of the game. Players may be more and more college and university educated but for some reason, the superhero culture doesn't seem to have abated all that much.

You'd be surprised how prevalent this culture is even in fields with individuals with higher education. It comes with the inherent competitiveness.

 

[Habs Icing]

Men don't get hurt and never cry.

The stay stoic and dont complain even if they get their balls and junk ripped off.

For f*** sake! Just reading that I cried so loud my ex heard me in Vaudreuil and called to console me.

 

[Habs Icing]

With no Weber, no Top Pairing LHD and no #1 (OR #2) C they are amazing on the PP

Keep Muller

What would you say if you found out that JJD has been running the PP this year? Would you scream and run through the window on the top floor of PVM?

 

[justafan22]

26 million in Price, Weber, Alzner and Shaw. My god.

 

[David Suzuki]

I’m going to wait to see who the foxhole replacements are before I get too excited

New assistant coach Marc Bergevin.

 

[Captain Mountain]

New assistant coach Marc Bergevin.

AHL head coach Bark Mergevin.

 

[Vachon23]

they are 8 guys that absolute need to go ( And I don't count MB because he will return)

Larry Carriere
Scott Mellanby
Jean-Jacques Daigneault
Dan Lacroix
Sylvain Lefebvre
Eric Crawford
Rob Ramage
Shane Churla

 

[habsgirl5000]

classic MB distraction tactic.....this gives MB something else to talk about at the presser, so it's not all about our horrid season,

It also lets MB point some of the blame elsewhere.....typical coward move.....by a coward

 

[Forum93]

Bergevin is a coward. A real leader would fall on his sword at this point.

It's all on him which means he'll take responsibility for the disaster he's created but won't be held responsible for it.

 

[David Suzuki]

AHL head coach Bark Mergevin.

 

[Tighthead]

Men don't get hurt and never cry.

The stay stoic and dont complain even if they get their balls and junk ripped off.

Wayne “Buck” Shelford, Battle of Nantes.

Back when Rugby was truly a sport for hard men.
His scrotum burst open and he still refused to leave the field - The Versed

 

[OneSharpMarble]

they are 8 guys that absolute need to go ( And I don't count MB because he will return)

Larry Carriere
Scott Mellanby
Jean-Jacques Daigneault
Dan Lacroix
Sylvain Lefebvre
Eric Crawford
Rob Ramage
Shane Churla

Good luck getting rid of Lacroix at this point. He's probably in the ventilation shafts but you'll never find him. Need to tent the whole building and fumigate.