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Player Discussion Brendan Gallagher: all heart, no hands

He has a NMC which prohibits the Habs to waive him, send him to the AHL or trade him. Hughes is stuck with him.
Oh, I wasn't aware of that... I understand why he stays despite his horrendous play. That man isn't NHL material anymore... I wish they'd find a way to put him out of the line-up, he's so infuriating. Every game he makes a bad pass that provoke a scoring opportunity for the other team.

At a minimum, he should play on the fourth line and touch the ice for a maximum of 5-7 minutes per game. And even there, I suspect he'd find ways to sink us.
 
I think the habs would be better served with Gallagher out of the line-up. I'm really fed up with his back breaking brain farts and his very untimely penalties. If he wasn't such a liability, I'd live with his mediocre production but right now, the only thing he's good for is the tank. I guess some people here like it but I'm not sure his teammates and his coach do.

I wonder why they don't simply send him to the AHL. It's not as if we need the dead cap space anyway but we certainly could use the roster spot more wisely. I really hope something happens because I can't stand seeing him on the ice anymore.


Coach seems to disagree with you since he still using him on the power play

;)
 
I think the habs would be better served with Gallagher out of the line-up. I'm really fed up with his back breaking brain farts and his very untimely penalties. If he wasn't such a liability, I'd live with his mediocre production but right now, the only thing he's good for is the tank. I guess some people here like it but I'm not sure his teammates and his coach do.

I wonder why they don't simply send him to the AHL. It's not as if we need the dead cap space anyway but we certainly could use the roster spot more wisely. I really hope something happens because I can't stand seeing him on the ice anymore.
Most likely buy him out summer '25
 
Oh, I wasn't aware of that... I understand why he stays despite his horrendous play. That man isn't NHL material anymore... I wish they'd find a way to put him out of the line-up, he's so infuriating. Every game he makes a bad pass that provoke a scoring opportunity for the other team.

At a minimum, he should play on the fourth line and touch the ice for a maximum of 5-7 minutes per game. And even there, I suspect he'd find ways to sink us.
You are describing Gallagher, Armia, Harris, Evans and 3 other players as well. Did you pop out of the Matrix?
 
I kind of want to see Gallagher out of the lineup, if only so some fans will stop using him as an excuse and realize that Montreal is just an awful team.
 
You are describing Gallagher, Armia, Harris, Evans and 3 other players as well. Did you pop out of the Matrix?

Honestly, it describes the vast majority of the Habs forward group. And if we're specifically talking about ES, it may describe Montreal's ENTIRE forward core.
 
I kind of want to see Gallagher out of the lineup, if only so some fans will stop using him as an excuse and realize that Montreal is just an awful team.
I realize it, but he makes it worse for no purpose.

Bro is from 2020
I feel he's getting more and more noticeable for the wrong reasons this year. Last year, I didn't watch a lot of games and the games I watched he wasn't there so I might have forgotten how bad he was.
 
I realize it, but he makes it worse for no purpose.


I feel he's getting more and more noticeable for the wrong reasons this year. Last year, I didn't watch a lot of games and the games I watched he wasn't there so I might have forgotten how bad he was.

I'm not sure what you mean by "no purpose".

Gallagher is an overpaid player who isn't what he used to be. He is noticeable for the wrong reasons as well. But there's more than a little confirmation bias there. Part of that is that he's got the worst 5v5 G% and PDO, and the best (among regulars) 5v5 CF%, xGF% and SCF%. And honestly, that lines up with what we've both seen and what we'd expect of Gallagher, who has historically been good at driving play 5v5, but no longer has a good defensive center or complementary linemates to make up for his weaknesses and whose underlying numbers don't address that his play-style is very north-south and doesn't do enough to create opportunities with pre-shot movement. He's been unlucky, but still bad.

That still doesn't to me match the idea that the Habs would be better off without him, but more that this team sucks. They have an inexperienced coaching staff that is more concerned with helping young players transition to the NHL and developing the way the play the game, than they are having a clear structure and approach to the game. They have a really bad roster on paper even before injuries.

Montreal is rebuilding so even if if getting Gallagher out of the lineup would help (it wouldn't), the organization isn't looking at results but at approach and process. Gallagher's job is to be Gallagher and he's doing that. And him being paid to do a lot more doesn't really mean he should be out of the lineup.
 
I'm not sure what you mean by "no purpose".

Gallagher is an overpaid player who isn't what he used to be. He is noticeable for the wrong reasons as well. But there's more than a little confirmation bias there. Part of that is that he's got the worst 5v5 G% and PDO, and the best (among regulars) 5v5 CF%, xGF% and SCF%. And honestly, that lines up with what we've both seen and what we'd expect of Gallagher, who has historically been good at driving play 5v5, but no longer has a good defensive center or complementary linemates to make up for his weaknesses and whose underlying numbers don't address that his play-style is very north-south and doesn't do enough to create opportunities with pre-shot movement. He's been unlucky, but still bad.

That still doesn't to me match the idea that the Habs would be better off without him, but more that this team sucks. They have an inexperienced coaching staff that is more concerned with helping young players transition to the NHL and developing the way the play the game, than they are having a clear structure and approach to the game. They have a really bad roster on paper even before injuries.

Montreal is rebuilding so even if if getting Gallagher out of the lineup would help (it wouldn't), the organization isn't looking at results but at approach and process. Gallagher's job is to be Gallagher and he's doing that. And him being paid to do a lot more doesn't really mean he should be out of the lineup.
I mean that there is someone younger and cheaper that can do as good (or as bad). I feel he's a negative on pretty much everything. I don't see him as a proper stop gap, no matter how small his role is on the team. He doesn't even lead by example IMHO because of his constant misread of plays and the ridiculous penalties he takes. Serving a purpose would mean leading by example and not hurting the team despite his shortcomings. He might be in the upper echelon of our team when it comes to certain advanced stats (thanks for that, I didn't know) but the eye test tells me he shouldn't have a spot on that team, even though it isn't good. I now understand the NMC explains why we're stuck with him but I hope a miracle happens and we can get rid of him. I disagree with you that it wouldn't help to get rid of him as it would free up a spot and allow us to gauge other youngsters at 5/5 and on the PP.
 
I mean that there is someone younger and cheaper that can do as good (or as bad). I feel he's a negative on pretty much everything. I don't see him as a proper stop gap, no matter how small his role is on the team. He doesn't even lead by example IMHO because of his constant misread of plays and the ridiculous penalties he takes. Serving a purpose would mean leading by example and not hurting the team despite his shortcomings. He might be in the upper echelon of our team when it comes to certain advanced stats (thanks for that, I didn't know) but the eye test tells me he shouldn't have a spot on that team, even though it isn't good. I now understand the NMC explains why we're stuck with him but I hope a miracle happens and we can get rid of him. I disagree with you that it wouldn't help to get rid of him as it would free up a spot and allow us to gauge other youngsters at 5/5 and on the PP.

There are important areas of the game where Montreal literally has no one who does better. I don't really care if you disagree (we all have your opinions), I just think you haven't substantiated your claim in any way other than your eye test, which doesn't match my eye test and clearly doesn't match the eye test of the front office.

I'm not saying Gallagher has been good or even not bad, but I don't think the argument that the team would be better off without him has any merit, especially since Montreal has been playing pure AHLers and almost every one of their forward prospects even kind of ready for NHL play.
 
There are important areas of the game where Montreal literally has no one who does better. I don't really care if you disagree (we all have your opinions), I just think you haven't substantiated your claim in any way other than your eye test, which doesn't match my eye test and clearly doesn't match the eye test of the front office.

I'm not saying Gallagher has been good or even not bad, but I don't think the argument that the team would be better off without him has any merit, especially since Montreal has been playing pure AHLers and almost every one of their forward prospects even kind of ready for NHL play.
I don't really care either that you disagree with me over Gallagher's importance to the success of this team. I certainly don't care enough to try to substantiate my point to convince you lol. I feel he's detrimental and easily replaceable, you don't. Fair enough. Have a nice day!
 
There are important areas of the game where Montreal literally has no one who does better. I don't really care if you disagree (we all have your opinions), I just think you haven't substantiated your claim in any way other than your eye test, which doesn't match my eye test and clearly doesn't match the eye test of the front office.

I'm not saying Gallagher has been good or even not bad, but I don't think the argument that the team would be better off without him has any merit, especially since Montreal has been playing pure AHLers and almost every one of their forward prospects even kind of ready for NHL play.
Somehow despite being filled with ahlers, Gally has by far the worst +/- on the team without difficult defensive assignments.
 
Somehow despite being filled with ahlers, Gally has by far the worst +/- on the team without difficult defensive assignments.

-How many games have those AHLers played?

-+/- is an objectively awful stat, if you're going to attribute even the concept behind it significant value, use 5v5 G% or 5v5 goal differential.

-Gallagher has more o-zone usage, but your view of his defensive assignments is incorrect, and he does it without great teammate support (and QoT is more important than QoC)

gallabr92


-Who has the 2nd worst +/- stat?

Listen, expectations and usage matter A LOT in the NHL. Its why Drouin was a whipping boy here and he's been good in Colorado. I already gave examples of other stats, but if the argument is that Gallagher isn't an NHLer then I'd hope there'd be more support than +/- and personal opinion. Like, I'm not going to pretend that Gallagher has been good but, like, half of the guys on Montreal's roster have been worse.
 
Character in dressing room though. Especially on young team. Gallagher good that way. He's heart and soul. I think he has the CH tattooed over his heart.

I don't think his contract hurts much now. Most rebuild teams are well under the cap.
 

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