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Player Discussion Brendan Gallagher: all heart, no hands

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ReHabs said:
He was plenty awful all of that season and in the playoffs too. He was cooked by the time he signed that extension if you ask me.


Other teams have had Robidas Island players, I think it should be manageable.
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Yeah...he was a shell then....dust now.
 
Stompin Paul Peller said:
I thought Gallagher played better against the Wild. Looked more like the old Gallagher. If he can only keep improving?
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I think this is correct. I didn't see the whole game, but of what I did see, Gallagher showed a little of his old spark and even showed some speed off the wing. But nothing takes away from the status of his awful contract. As the Wild had to do with their two millstones, Parise and Suter, we are going to have to eat that horrible contract. And that 'eating' will have an adverse effect on our re-building plans. Dumb always loses.
 
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BLONG7 said:
The crying, was maybe one of the strangest things in the world of sport I have ever witnessed, and I am old! Gally had done absolutely nothing to deserve such a contract, and never won an award, helped the team to a Cup or anything for that matter?
I mean it was a WTF Bergevin moment..............
All, this yes, from a fan of Gally but seriously we all knew this was a bad bad contract and moment for the habs, and............................here we are.
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We were begging for him to be traded at deadline because he had some value. He may have wanted to retire a jab, and they may have wanted to pay him for past contributions, but holy cow that is an albatross. It was a poison pill from bergie.
 
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ChesterNimitz said:
I think this is correct. I didn't see the whole game, but of what I did see, Gallagher showed a little of his old spark and even showed some speed off the wing. But nothing takes away from the status of his awful contract. As the Wild had to do with their two millstones, Parise and Suter, we are going to have to eat that horrible contract. And that 'eating' will have an adverse effect on our re-building plans. Dumb always loses.
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I honestly don't care if he shows more speed off the wing or not. It's not his skating that is the real problem, IMO. It's howlog he takes to process the information before and after the puck lands on his stick. Even if he were to opt for the right play a respectable two out of three times, his execution will always be too late to create anything at the current rate that he processes things out there on the ice.

Can Gallagher bounce back? The better question is, "Can they please bounce him out of the lineup?"
 
Scriptor said:
I honestly don't care if he shows more speed off the wing or not. It's not his skating that is the real problem, IMO. It's howlog he takes to process the information before and after the puck lands on his stick. Even if he were to opt for the right play a respectable two out of three times, his execution will always be too late to create anything at the current rate that he processes things out there on the ice.

Can Gallagher bounce back? The better question is, "Can they please bounce him out of the lineup?"
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I don't think any reasonable person would disagree with you. But there is no magic pill for this problem. We're eating that horrible contract. But it does serve as a cautionary tale for everyone about the dangers/risks of entering into long term agreements with any aging/damaged player. Will other managers learn from it? I doubt it. Think about how many people here believe that Gallagher is bouncing back. Unbelievable.
 
What happens when the Habs are 1-8-1 and Gallagher has zero points? They are about to hit a tough stretch.
 
ChesterNimitz said:
I don't think any reasonable person would disagree with you. But there is no magic pill for this problem. We're eating that horrible contract. But it does serve as a cautionary tale for everyone about the dangers/risks of entering into long term agreements with any aging/damaged player. Will other managers learn from it? I doubt it. Think about how many people here believe that Gallagher is bouncing back. Unbelievable.
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Don't think so. Fans certainly wont. It's just a matter of weeks before some of our fanbase start arguing we should extend Pearson for the next 4 years ;)
 
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ChesterNimitz said:
I don't think any reasonable person would disagree with you. But there is no magic pill for this problem. We're eating that horrible contract. But it does serve as a cautionary tale for everyone about the dangers/risks of entering into long term agreements with any aging/damaged player. Will other managers learn from it? I doubt it. Think about how many people here believe that Gallagher is bouncing back. Unbelievable.
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Yes, the warning is clear and would likely also apply to Dach, even if he comes back seemingly fully healthy from a very rough double tear in the same knee.

If Dach recovers well from his injury and appears -- next year-- to be able to have the same impact that he was on the verge of having with the Habs this season, I'd consider extending him, but at a lower cap hit, with term as the trade-off.

5M X 8 for a 40-Million payday may be alluring to a player whose luck has seen him miss games galore so far throughout his brief NHL career.

It would take Dach through age 32 and would also help the Habs fit in more talent under the cap ceiling at that point. The higher Cap ceiling would also justify paying Dach as a large-bodied, two way pivot on a 3rd line at that point should his game drop off from a top-6 point production level.

He'd also be someone who could be traded if we have better prospects for that role.

Injuries are bad, but they can be written off on the LTIR for a rich team like Montreal. At least, for a younger (but still damaged) Dach, injury would likely be the problem heading forward, rather than age catching up to the player, on top of a dinged-up body.

It's not much different than the sweet deal we got with Pacioretty (for the production level with the goal-scoring) with 6 years at 4.5M, ensuring mucho dineros, for a player whose career was almost obliterated (thanks Chara) at a young age, and ensuring cost control for the Habs.
 
morhilane said:
This is so what is going to happen. :laugh:

Gally should already be sitting in the stands.
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I watched him closely last night...he has become a really bad player. A player with barely average skater that loses a step is destined to be phased out soon.
 
LaP said:
Don't think so. Fans certainly wont. It's just a matter of weeks before some of our fanbase start arguing we should extend Pearson for the next 4 years ;)
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You mean those fans who start joyously singing on those rare occasions we go up two goals or lustily boo Bedard whenever he touches? Very classy indeed.

Tyson said:
What happens when the Habs are 1-8-1 and Gallagher has zero points? They are about to hit a tough stretch.
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Our focus should become rivetted on the 2024 draft.
 
Tyson said:
I watched him closely last night...he has become a really bad player. A player with barely average skater that loses a step is destined to be phased out soon.
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His top skating speed is clearly below average now and he has no elite skills to compensate for it, so yes phased out soon.

I don't understand how the coaches can't see it thought...among a bunch of other things really. Habs season start coaching has been terrible really. Players misused, way too much trust put on players based on pass performance instead of current ones, etc.
 
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ChesterNimitz said:
You mean those fans who start joyously singing on those rare occasions we go up two goals or lustily boo Bedard whenever he touches? Very classy indeed.


Our focus should become rivetted on the 2024 draft.
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Very true Admiral but what becomes of Gallagher who I believe is done as an NHL player.
Hughes has some decisions to make from getting rid of one of the goalies, figuring out what to do with Galalgher, whether or not Slaf belongs in the NHL.
 
Tyson said:
I watched him closely last night...he has become a really bad player. A player with barely average skater that loses a step is destined to be phased out soon.
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Hopefully the hangover isn't too bad today. I cant even fathom how many beers were needed.

He has to be the worst middle 6/PP2 forward I have ever watched. Every play either dies on his stick instantly or he spams his putrid shot in the general direction of the goalie. Really really painful player to watch.
 
MarioLeMoose said:
Hopefully the hangover isn't too bad today. I cant even fathom how many beers were needed.

He has to be the worst middle 6/PP2 forward I have ever watched. Every play either dies on his stick instantly or he spams his putrid shot in the general direction of the goalie. Really really painful player to watch.
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Yeah he can't react quickly enough, he constantly has zero space because the game has gotten too fast for him. Like all Habs fans I appreciate the 10 years of gutsy play. The ship has sailed, next man up.
 
ChesterNimitz said:
Our focus should become rivetted on the 2024 draft.
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Yep. Keep icing the vets. Trade the ones you can at the deadline. Keep stacking picks for 2024 and 2025. Be patient with kids. There's nothing more we can do for now. If the team does not improve by 2025-2026 it will be the time to evaluate Gorton and KH administration.

For now they are still dealing with MB's bad contracts and there's not much they can do about it outside of waiting it out. The worst part about this team is not the young players it's the vet they are simply not good and they make up like a third of our cap hit. I still can't believe how much some of our fans overrate Josh Anderson.
 
DAChampion said:
The Habs can't afford to have both Price and Gallagher on permanent LTIR.
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We can afford it more then having Price on LTIR and Gallagher "healthy" enough to be on the team. Besides once a player is on permanent LTIR they become tradeable without having to give up a ton.
 
He is quite the spectacle now,reminds me of that stick used in shuffleboard,,just poke it forward. He can't skate and turn anymore and the last time I played recreational hockey he would probably be the poorest skater out there. Thanks for what you brought but don't be selfish.
 
rik schau said:
He is quite the spectacle now,reminds me of that stick used in shuffleboard,,just poke it forward. He can't skate and turn anymore and the last time I played recreational hockey he would probably be the poorest skater out there. Thanks for what you brought but don't be selfish.
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Not Gally's fault the coach is playing him in the wrong situations
 
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